BOTC - US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums NORTHEAST LACROSSE BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) Boys 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016

Thanks Dad. I'm sure they won't see the field. Only when you play Freeport or JfK. Not knocking the kids but I'm sure a school the size of 'Pequa has plenty of upperclassemen who are more deserving to play.

Repugnant, nasty individual. Seems like you are threatened that Massapequa has talented freshman.

Rather than wish I g the players well, you are nasty. Cannot wait to see the freshman who are moved up to varsity do their thing.

Congrats to those 2019 MHS FRESHMAN who do get the honor of beginning the first year of 4 yr Varsity player.

My hat is off yo each of you!!!!!

Didn't manhassett have a freshman play up last year?

WM has a 2019 committed to an ivy already

Pequa has a loaded 2019 class.

GC has probably 3 freshmen that could play up on varsity.

SWR has one as well.

Syosset has some very good 2019s. 2 are really good

This is all great and Im sure they are all fine players, but varsity is a different animal. Im going to say that most of these kids will not see 1 minute of actually playing time in any kind of meaningful game if they actually get pulled up to varsity and stay there. Not a knock on those kids its just reality. Standing out against other 2019's is one thing, competing against some of the best competition in the country is quite another especially given the size and speed difference. All of those kids will wait their turn and shine when its their time. Best of luck to all of them.

Cant speak for the other schools, but WM usually brings up one or two 9th graders-and they never really do anything but practice with the team. run on the field in a blow out...

Much better to have those boys playing with their buddies on JV in my opinion. But-let's face it, parents enjoy the bragging rights of getting recruited early or being asked to play V as a freshman. the kids deserve credit and this is not disrespectful to them or their parents.

But Absolutely nothing wrong with playing JV for a year or two and having fun with your mates (even if you were an early recruit).

the thrill of varsity is getting asked, after that, more fun to be had-and more time on the field, at JV level. Rushing to be on varsity so you can go to the weekly pasta parties...

I am not a historian, but don't recall any freshman at WM that contributed in any meaningful way over the last 5 years...yes, I saw a couple run on the field occasionally, but never a stud.

My oldest son played varsity as a Freshman and it wasn't a great experience. He was big and skilled but not fast. His body hadn't matured enough so he didn't really enjoy it. As a sophomore he was much faster and loved every second of it. Each kid is different as is each situation. Let the kids have fun and enjoy the time, it goes by way too fast.

What if a 2019 verbal plays on JV, or a freshman team? Seems like that should be OK, but maybe viewed as a dud.

No one cares about JV ball- NO one- Have your son play varsity even if he does not start.

What if a 2019 verbal plays on JV, or a freshman team? Seems like that should be OK, but maybe viewed as a dud.

Massapequa MAY, have two 2019's on the varsity. They are a very good group, with two excellent goalies, an excellent but undersized attackman who is being heavily recruited. Three or four really good middies, A great FOGO, and a couple of really decent defensemen.

Massapequa MAY, have two 2019's on the varsity. They are a very good group, with two excellent goalies, an excellent but undersized attackman who is being heavily recruited. Three or four really good middies, A great FOGO, and a couple of really decent defensemen.

Kids do. Not everyone gets recruited or cares to.

Top colleges really won't recruit too many undersized 2019 kids until they see if they will be getting much bigger. The Div II and III will recruit them heavily and see if they can get them to go for it..Way too much size at Div 1 now and the physical play will wear on them quicker. Not fair but it is what it is and the kids are only going to get bigger

Massapequa MAY, have two 2019's on the varsity. They are a very good group, with two excellent goalies, an excellent but undersized attackman who is being heavily recruited. Three or four really good middies, A great FOGO, and a couple of really decent defensemen.

In my opinion I think it is going to be a bust. Most of the top players are not trying out. This summer the boys need to go to events that put them in front of college coaches. This event has little to no value as IMHO.

I dont know about that. Last year there were plenty of colleges on the sideline of Brine. More than Philly Freshman. I was at both. Facilities were awesome and so was the event. New event coordinators did a great job. Only thing that stunk was the team event where players had to sit in the heat and listen to those speeches.

Ok were back to this discussion again. Shall we go through the list of "undersized" players again? Oh and Div 2 and 3 really dont recruit until Junior year so I dont know where you got the "they will recruit them heavily and see if they can get them to go for it" statement.........

I can guarantee the Div 1 coaches don't recruit the smaller players yet that's for sure unless the child is lightning fast and quickest on their team

Lol, was there last year. No college coaches except the ones being paid. The whole event has become a dinosaur, waste of time and money!

You people keep getting it wrong on the size thing. So many excell at their position being 5'9 and under. Please stop! Like the other poster stated, do we really have start naming named again? Can you play or not, end of discussion!

You people keep getting it wrong on the size thing. So many excell at their position being 5'9 and under. Please stop! Like the other poster stated, do we really have start naming named again? Can you play or not, end of discussion!

last years team was something special to watch a cast of characters. Of course a few kids were missing but special none the less. As far as college coaches, was at both the tournaments mentioned by far FPS had way more coaches. Brine had some but not nearly the amount as FPS. Although Brine did have college coaches as their coaches on the sideline.

As far as the heat you actually went to that ceremony in the heat, some found a nice place to cool off and stuff their faces before the last game.

I say at the least go to the tryout see who is there if for nothing else it is a good run before tryouts start Monday. As for the event your call they did change the date but may learned enough is enough.

Who's naming names. It's not just about can you play. This sport like many others size is an issue and factor. The defenseman over the years have evolved into the bigger and more athletic kids, not like years ago at all. So being bigger is a huge advantage as long as you are athletic.

If your kid is a player and they move him up to varsity and he doesn't get much time then what's the hype all about. One of my son's was brought up as a sophomore, didn't ask for it but the coach wanted him there only to watch other kids who he was better than play ahead of him. My son is a big kid yet the freshman they brought up played because his brother was a lax guy at the hs. It will never change with coaches bringing up a kid as a favor. If they don't play let them stay on jv. By the way my son quit lax. Good job coaches.

So the freshmen played over your son?. Maybe he was better. Maybe your son wasn't really into playing lacrosse and if so then he did the right thing. Don't blame the boy or the coaches .Blame.....you can fill in the blank

I'm not involved in this specific one, but I say blame the HS coach and club coach every time and close to every time you'll be spot on. I have one kid in college and one kid just starting HS as a 9th grader. When my oldest was involved only a few years ago in HS lacrosse there were ZERO instances of kids getting brokered up to varsity and then brokered onto the field. Now we are seeing A LOT of that here in Maryland. My second son is a JV player, and that is the field he belongs on this year. Two kids who managed to commit to colleges will run on varsity, but neither kid belongs on that field and we all can see through it. A third kid who does not play club at all will start at SSDM as a 9th grader because he is a super freaky great athlete who contributed on varsity football and wrestling as a freshman. We all can see through that too...baloney and hype didn't put him on the varsity, his level of play did.

I have never in my life seen anything worse in sports than these club locusts who push a college to commit a kid before 9th grade varsity season, and then twist the screws on the HS coach. Sure, all the HS coaches claim they don't get played by pushy club guys and parents but nearly every time they just roll over. Can't have a kid committed to XYZ on the JV team. Looks bad for the kid, the parents and the club coach who sold him and can't be wrong and second guessed. If there are kids who are juniors and seniors who are affected by this and get alienated and want to just quit, I don't call them quitters. Stuff like this should never happen in high school sports. I call the club guys pimps and the HS coaches who roll over wimps. Lacrosse seems to be the only HS sport now where you can make varsity because of what you didn't do on the HS field.