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Duke vs Denver not on tv. Come on ESPN. Powers that be in lacrosse dropping the proverbial ball.

LMAO. And Bitter, Palasek, and Pannell are all listed at 5-10 and up. Let's say they are lying. Does that mean the 5-9, 150 player from an upstate NY B school is really 5-8 and 140 pounds? Marquette has a 5-5 defensemen that is All Big East. Feel better now?

The only people who care about size are the ones with big kids. They think they have a golden ticket and they want it to be true that their kid who hits puberty in sixth grade is going all the way. I've seen small guys who are tougher than big guys, faster, and quicker. Most important, if you don't have the stick and the attitude doesn't matter how big you are or how much your dad wants it for you. W

Sankey is 5'5", 5'6" by some accounts. Can't think of a coach who wouldn't take him any day over some lumbering Frankenstein.

Guys the amazing thing about lacrosse it fits so many body types. Big small whatever you are if your skills are there and you have the heart and will to put the time in you can be successful at this game at many different levels. Everyone is giving these examples of smaller players doing well and they are right. The evolution of most sports is to bigger more athletic players. There are big men in basketball that handle the ball just as well as the old time best small ball handlers. Its the evolution of the athlete in general. The smaller player will not become obsolete either will the big boys. All these players are skilled and athletic like never before.

Did anyone just watch Hopkins vs Loyola? Great game!! Duke vs Denver on right now and it 5 to 4 Denver.

I'm enjoying seeing Hofstra spank UNC, after reading some degrading comments on here about that program. Also loved seeing Hopkins get payback for the game the should have lost last week!

Glad to see the cricket stopped chirping!

Big win today for Hofstra. 10-5 over UNC

The Hopkins-Loyola game was awesome today. Packed house and a tight game going right down to the wire. Had a great time down there. Good day for the Patriot league. Loyola, Lehigh, Bucknell and Colgate all won. Army and Navy tomorrow.

Early recruiting helping them too??? And usually getting the top recruits acccording to TY lmao

Maybe there should be degrading comments about both of these programs. Breschi should be ashamed.

Yes, the sport is getting smaller. You've got it, these FOGOs are petite.

The realities of early recruiting, 20 yo freshman, and the growth in the number of kids playing HS lax are starting to bare fruit... Just not in the way UNC and Hop thought it would work out!!! It is only the beginning... What Loyola did a few years ago was just the start of things to come. In the next few years we may see another team from the Patriot, CAA or NEC win it all. The age of parity is here to stay.

Looks like Hofstra got a huge gift from above by way of Canada and Nassau Community College.

Kid had a couple of goals, but the 5 goal scorer was a home grown LI product... Nice try though.

A couple is 4 goals and 2 assists? Public school education at it's best LOL

Stony Brook mens off to a great start. Was at the game today, they have some ringers!

Syracuse game on watch espn

Starsia getting spanked, keep recruiting those #1 earlies, lol! Someone will be fired soon!

#10 Virginia upset by 0-3 High Point 12-11. Gotta love it.

High Point with the upset win over Virginia in OT!

Another "elite" program loses to an unranked new program. UVA loses to HPU. I find it funny that these recruiters of 20 yo freshman and 8th graders are losing left and right to schools that waited and recruited later on.... My guess is there will be a number of Coaching changes come June. Parity is here to stay folks!!!

virginia is a mess

High Point is a new program and they have given a lot of the bigger programs fits, they also schedule very aggressively out of conference. I think early recruiting isnt necessarily Virginias problem, I think its more of a coaching problem. The road doesnt get any easier for them and itll be interesting to see what happens as the season goes on.

In my opinion the early losses by some of these high profile teams is just the tip of the iceberg. There is more parody in the sport than ever before. Too many programs taking kids on the word of a travel team coach before the kid has matured. What dont these guys get(college coaches) its the job of these travel team guys to get kids committed early and as many from their program as possible. The coaches are hedging their bets on these early recruits hoping some are as good as the travel coaches say they are. For the most part the early studs will be good players later on, but I have seen it all too often kids getting the early recognition because they were early to mature and were dominating at an early age get all of the accolades. As time passed many of the unheralded kids now were passing the so called best players. It doesn't happen all the time but it does happen a large percentage of the time. There are many factors to consider like growth, speed, athletic ability, game iq, drive etc. Two thing s I have always heard you cant teach size and speed. with all this training you can only enhance them. You will only be as tall as your meant to be and as fast as your meant to be. Drive determination heart are the uncontrollable factors coaches can not measure with a stopwatch or a tape measure. This is good for the sport and will help it grow.

UVA lost again?!??

What is the issue with Manhattan College? Why Doesn't Fordham University have lacrosse?

Something called Title XV that says schools must offer same amount of opportunity to men and women college athletes. IMO it is BS. It should be equal amount of teams, not based on headcount. If you offer 10 women's teams, offer 10 men's sports. Fordham offers FCS football so that is 65 male slots. Now you have to offer women same so you wind up with more sports for women because now you have to have 2-3 teams/sports to match that 65. This is the issue why many schools that offer football don't offer men's lacrosse. If they are a FBS football program they have to match 85 male slots.

As far as Manhattan, school admin didn't support lax too much in the past, but hired young, hungry staff and offered more scholarship funding so hopefully things will change in near future.

Manhattan doesn't seem to get the LI kids you would think they have to recruit to make the team successful...then they REALLY over scheduled themselves and have been abused buy Carolina and others...more harm than good. Fired the coach like 2 or 3 times in the last few years. A mess!

Manhattan has been historically bad, but they do have a new coach and it looks like he is aggressively recruiting. I have heard the facilities arent so great, but I have heard they have a very good engineering program. Campus is in a weird spot and I can only speculate but I would imagine a lot of Long Island kids dont want to be that close to home.

I have always wondered why Fordham doesnt have D1 lax, would be a perfet fit for them. They do have decent basketball and football and they have great facilities and I would think with their academic reputation they would be able to recruit reasonably well. I think they would be a perfect fit for the Patriot or America East conference. Again the title 9 thing is probably the principal reason they dont have it, although they do have a club program.

Some good games today
Stony Brook 1pm
Hofstra 3pm

Yale beats Maryland

Love it!! Another program that recruits early. Working for them too??

And Villanova killed penny state

Hofstra beats Princeton in OT. 11-10

5 goal scorer today was the Canuck - 9,2 in 2 games

Actually the best performer was the fogo, who was recruited early. So, not sure you are making a point here, they were simply out played!

See you are like a liberal. You are trying to find ways to discredit. Big deal fogo guy was early commit and did well. But as a whole Maryland loses to Yale. When Maryland gets all these top kids supposedly.

Truth is the ACC schools and Hopkins are the biggest proponents of early verbal commits. I hope they lose most of their games to teach them a lesson. Won't happen, but wishful thinking. Oh and nepotism alive and well at Binghamton.

8 goals from Long Islands Villanova Jr Jake Frocarro. Princeton transfer.