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These things are a waste, generally speaking, from a recruiting point of view. I strongly believe, having had one kid go through the lax recruiting process recently and others through regular college searches, that the best way to do this is find a handful of schools that you think fit your daughter academically, socially and from a lax point of view. Do it just like you would with a non athlete. Put together a list of stretch, match and safety schools. It's a little more complicated in that one school might be a stretch for lax, but a match academically, as well as the other way around. So I would find a few in each category and start focusing in on those schools. Attend as many on campus clinics/camps as geographically and financially feasible. If you have crafted the list well, several of those situations will pay off. No money towards these other "recruiting camps" unless you have it to burn and you think your daughter will just "enjoy the experience".

The other point I would highlight is to try to get someone with influence (club coach, high school coach, former player) to help place your daughter in a top group at the college camp. If it is one of the bigger ones, there are definitely two tiers. One is for the "real" recruits, and the rest is for making money. If your daughter isn't in the group with the coaches from the target school, it probably also is a waste of time.

My 2 cents.

The Elite 120 is worth it in my opinion. My daughter is committed to a top 10 program and that is where she was first noticed by several schools in January of her freshman year. Well attended by coaches, established now, and top players attending for the most part (if they have not already committed).

The Elite 120 is worth it in my opinion. My daughter is committed to a top 10 program and that is where she was first noticed by several schools in January of her freshman year. Well attended by coaches, established now, and top players attending for the most part (if they have not already committed).

I'll bet since she is a strong enough player to commit to a top 10 program, she didn't need to be at the elite 120 to be noticed. My bet is she could have ended up in the same place having not spent the money on Elite 120. Not saying it was a waste of money, but I don't think it is the reason your daughter ended up where she did.

Every girl has a different path. To say one way is definitively better makes you sound foolish. We chose the wait and see who is interested first method and went to ua and going to 120. Although basically ready to decide, we never traveled to all the camps because there was no way to know if they were even interested. We wanted to visit schools that were interested and also fit for academics and lax. Different strokes for different folks.

Can I ask for some examples of why your so happy? Many people post how great and happy they are but never offer any specifics.
Did you start with this club or move from another and have something to compare it to?

We were told when we joined Elevate, they had a lot of year round training and were in winter leagues, etc. There is nothing and I mean nothing. the only time you see anything they do in the off season is on social media when DK posts a picture of him and 5 kids off somewhere you we weren't asked to go. This club has been a huge disappointment.

We hear nothing from Elevate any more. There is little or no communication. We asked about opportunities but heard nothing. We are looking into opportunities with other clubs for clinics and leagues especially with season starting in the not so distance future.

We hear nothing from Elevate any more. There is little or no communication. We asked about opportunities but heard nothing. We are looking into opportunities with other clubs for clinics and leagues especially with season starting in the not so distance future.

How does Elevate compare to Others ?
The cost is 2200.00 per season and that just pays for tournament fee's. No winter clinics, no indoor leagues -

Why is it so much money ???

Do the math - TEAM ELEVATE is making a LOT of money on selling little girls a dream of playing college sports. ITS A CRIME !!!

WE ARE FAMILY !

We hear nothing from Elevate any more. There is little or no communication. We asked about opportunities but heard nothing. We are looking into opportunities with other clubs for clinics and leagues especially with season starting in the not so distance future.

I think the fact that you are hearing nothing from elevate is due to the fact that the administrators who were running the club both left. Many coaches have left as well. We don't even know who our daughters coach will be this summer. I know many coaches listed on the elevate website are no longer there. We too are concerned about the summer and disappointed that the entire off season has been a bust. We had better expectations based on last year and what we were told this year. No winter clinics, no leagues, etc.

Here's a suggestion, if your not happy leave but truth is its no better anyplace else.
Winter leagues - there are none to join. You want to train, get a bunch of your daughters friends of equal ability and or teammates and find a good trainer to do a small group lesson. There's no silver bullet out there and many of the top kids are training year round. The difference is they are not sitting home waiting for a tweet or email from the club director.

Here's another suggestion, don;t believe all the BS that these people post. So much of the stuff on here is complete BS from disgruntled parents who never played the game and are now living through their children's lacrosse lives. It amazes me how "caught up" these people are. Go out and have a catch with your own kid - even if you have to use a baseball/softball glove because you never played.

Here's another suggestion, don;t believe all the BS that these people post. So much of the stuff on here is complete BS from disgruntled parents who never played the game and are now living through their children's lacrosse lives. It amazes me how "caught up" these people are. Go out and have a catch with your own kid - even if you have to use a baseball/softball glove because you never played.

kool aid will run out soon...

You are new to elevate we were happy once I wish I left sooner than I did Dave cannot be trusted he will lie straight to your face and put your money in his pocketI do not really like saying bad things about people but I don't want other girls getting blindsided by Dave. I should have left sooner. There are a lot of honest travel teams on Long Island that really care about the girls look for them

Anyone who runs a CLUB program whether it be lacrosse, soccer etc is in it for the almighty dollar at the end of the day. Anyone that states otherwise is full of BS. With that said, my daughter played with Elevate for a few years. It started out great, DK preaching family values, "Elevating the girls" etc etc but it quickly became more and more a money grab from every angle. Costs for HUB winter league's were exorbitantly inflated with rosters of 20+ kids. Offseason practices (Fall/Winter) were ZERO unless you were paying for skill clinics run mostly by DK at the HUB. The only practices you received here were a few right before your first tournament followed by one to two practices per week while you completed the 4 tournaments. By the time the team gels the season is over. This is followed by additional money grabs such as the end of the year Award$ dinner, pre-tryout mini camp$ and then tryout$.

While I can't comment about any "honest" clubs out there, my daughter has moved on and they have already had more practices from fall to date than probably the past 2 years combined at Elevate. Since DK lost the relationship with the HUB as well as field space in CSH, go ask the 2019 girls what they are doing this Winter. They are scrambling to put practice sessions and teams together on their own in order to get themselves ready for their freshmen season. I was a "Buyer" here unfortunately for one too many seasons and would tell anyone to "Beware" that you get little value for the money you spend here.

Anyone that disputes what I said above please back it up with facts that support Elevate is doing otherwise for the girls

Anyone who runs a CLUB program whether it be lacrosse, soccer etc is in it for the almighty dollar at the end of the day. Anyone that states otherwise is full of BS. With that said, my daughter played with Elevate for a few years. It started out great, DK preaching family values, "Elevating the girls" etc etc but it quickly became more and more a money grab from every angle. Costs for HUB winter league's were exorbitantly inflated with rosters of 20+ kids. Offseason practices (Fall/Winter) were ZERO unless you were paying for skill clinics run mostly by DK at the HUB. The only practices you received here were a few right before your first tournament followed by one to two practices per week while you completed the 4 tournaments. By the time the team gels the season is over. This is followed by additional money grabs such as the end of the year Award$ dinner, pre-tryout mini camp$ and then tryout$.

While I can't comment about any "honest" clubs out there, my daughter has moved on and they have already had more practices from fall to date than probably the past 2 years combined at Elevate. Since DK lost the relationship with the HUB as well as field space in CSH, go ask the 2019 girls what they are doing this Winter. They are scrambling to put practice sessions and teams together on their own in order to get themselves ready for their freshmen season. I was a "Buyer" here unfortunately for one too many seasons and would tell anyone to "Beware" that you get little value for the money you spend here.

Anyone that disputes what I said above please back it up with facts that support Elevate is doing otherwise for the girls

Sounds like an honest, non-bomb throwing assessment. We are making a move for my younger daughter next year if things don't improve with her current team, and (if you feel comfortable with it) could you share what team you chose that is better than Elevate? (If not, I understand not wanting to create a SH*& storm on the thread). I was looking into Elevate, YJ or maybe Legacy.

Every club charges extra for clinics, their end-of-year club-wide parties and clinics. Not sure why Elevate is being singled out. Do you think YJ runs their weekend clinics or mid-week leagues for free? No. Those activities are all optional and "extras". What is wrong with you people? Do you give away your services for free? I am in healthcare...dont give away my expertise for free. Do mechanics fix your car for free? Do teachers tutor for free? NO. I have been to this rodeo before with two different clubs....they are all essentially the same. This is their business and it is treated as such. Get real.

Every club charges extra for clinics, their end-of-year club-wide parties and clinics. Not sure why Elevate is being singled out. Do you think YJ runs their weekend clinics or mid-week leagues for free? No. Those activities are all optional and "extras". What is wrong with you people? Do you give away your services for free? I am in healthcare...dont give away my expertise for free. Do mechanics fix your car for free? Do teachers tutor for free? NO. I have been to this rodeo before with two different clubs....they are all essentially the same. This is their business and it is treated as such. Get real.

i would hope that requirement would go for ANY director mentioned by name....so Shannon Smith will get the same treatment?

Question. And yes there is no "right" answer. But if your daughter could likely see the field at any college lax program in the country, where would you want her to attend?

I know everyone can answer "wherever the best fit is ... wherever she is comfortable ... wherever she'd be happy if lax weren't in the equation etc."

Putting aside those boiler plate answers, pick a school. Would it have the balance of a potential National Championship and great academics, would it have the absolute best academics with likely no/small chance at winning it all? Would it be best lax program bar none? Just curious.

My daughter likely doesn't have this luxury, but I was just curious what people think.

I think I would say Duke, Northwestern ...but then I think, could you really say no to Princeton, Stanford or Harvard? And then I wonder what the awesome experience at a Maryland or UNC must be like for those girls and I go in circles.

What do you say?