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ESM girls state champion - 8th grader big part of teams championship run.

And they're 7th grade girls, not 8th.

the conversation is about girls not boys

Syosset - Dan Loftus started in goal and went on to be an AA at Duke - Jeff Cohen, not sure of totals but had over 25 goals in 8th grade on varsity went on to have big totals at Harvard - Ryan Lukacovic started as an 8th grader before going to Chaminade for the rest of HS scored a bunch including being leading scorer for Syosset in playoffs now Starting at Virginia.

garden city...james Sullivan was on varsity as FOGO as 8th grader. is that a quality enough program for you ?

lefty or righty?

Girls physically mature at a much younger age and the game is not nearly as physical as the boys game. These two girls are highly skilled. Good luck to them!

Excellent 11 year olds. Means nothing. Get a grip mom.

Ok so out of the thousands of players you name a goalie who was great and a head of his peers at an early age. When there is a need it could result in an 8th grader being brought up.

Jeff Cohen again an anomaly was at one time the leading goal scorer at Harvard. Your grasping at straws with these examples. These are true studs and went on to prove so. The programs with strong youth and feeders usually will not bring up an 8th grader. It would probably be a weaker struggling program that must do this.

Oh yea? Name one quality HS program who bought up an 8th grader who actually produced

what is your major malfunction numb nuts? I am not making a case for or against 8th graders playing varsity, I was replying to a post that said



Syosset has a history of bringing up 8th graders and they are clearly a quality program - the 8th graders bought up in the past have played at Harvard, Duke, UNC as well as a current UVA and two current Hopkins players. so this is not "grasping at straws" it was a direct answer to a direct question asking to name "one" quality program,

Bringing up an 8th grader may also me about what the coach thinks is best for the player while maybe not being a huge contributor to the varsity team in his 8th grade season but becoming a better player by playing against bigger strong better players and being coached by better teacher/coaches then they would get in middle school or JV. If it was my kid I would rather he score 5 goals on varsity then 25 on JV or 50 in middle school but getting better. Games do not mean anything unless the score is in Newsday and you improve in practice not in games.....IMHO

You picked the wrong day to bring him up! Still a great player, but also an example of be careful of what you wish for. The media can be a real [lacrosse] to these kids. JZ and Justin T got it right with Holy Grail!

what is your major malfunction numb nuts? I am not making a case for or against 8th graders playing varsity, I was replying to a post that said



Lot of these schools will bring up the 8th grader so they do not leave next year for private school!!

And they're 7th grade girls, not 8th.

Lot of these schools will bring up the 8th grader so they do not leave next year for private school!!

Babylon had a 7th grade girl who was All-County and Suffolk County Rookie of the year last year. Big producer on her team.

Ridiculous notion! What parent would reconsider that decision because their 8th grader got pulled up to varsity?

Good one

Rookie yes, producer yes, All County no. Please get your facts right before posting.

I just hope any team that is fortunate to pull up a 7/8/9 grader to varsity, that the player is celebrated regardless if a Contributor or a Producer. There will always be nah sayers, but in the end I am sure the boy or girl can play and will learn a ton whether they make mistakes just like the Jr's and Sr's or not.

Can speak to this as a couple of 8th graders were pulled up in big district in Suffolk county. Girls were not major contributors, saw no growth between their 8th and 9th grade years and in fact went from good amount of playing time in 8th to little time in 9th. Girls should never had been brought up, huge mistake and bad coaching decision! Could not compete on the skill level or physically with girls ahead of them. Unless they are a phenom, leave them down.

Any other schools begging 9th grade athletes to play lacrosse for the first time so they can fill out HS teams?

My daughters school has about 75-80 trying out from grades 9-12 for Jv & V

The poster who said it wasn't healthy for a 7th grader to be on the bus with seniors is correct. The mental maturity level isn't there yet. The program in question isn't weak. They won the Suffolk B championship a couple of years ago and are always in the mix. Physically these girls are ready to contribute. One in particular is very skilled and quite fast. I do question the decision to expose such young girls to the social aspects of HS at such a young age. If I was the parents I would intimate that to the coach and say see you next year.

The poster who said it wasn't healthy for a 7th grader to be on the bus with seniors is correct. The mental maturity level isn't there yet. The program in question isn't weak. They won the Suffolk B championship a couple of years ago and are always in the mix. Physically these girls are ready to contribute. One in particular is very skilled and quite fast. I do question the decision to expose such young girls to the social aspects of HS at such a young age. If I was the parents I would intimate that to the coach and say see you next year.

I have been around this for almost 20 years and can tell you I have never seen or heard of a middle school parent say no to being moved up to a HS team, I have never seen or heard of a freshman declining an invitation to varsity team, I do think that in many cases it would be the smart thing to do but I have never seen it and I doubt it would happen very often

I have knowledge of a 7th grader turning down such an opportunity. So don't say it doesn't happen.

Can there be another thread started, called "ridiculous parents-girls lacrosse." Because this entire conversation under "high school lax" is lame and booooooorrrrrriiiiinnnnngggggg!

Sorry but 99% of 7th grade girls have no business playing varsity. I don't care how talented they are, they just don't have the physical development to hang with girls who are 3-5 years older. Is this story true, probably but I would also bet this thread was started by some jealous parent. Did these 7th graders earn their spot, doubtful, did someone cut a deal or call in a favor, most likely. Will they benefit from practicing with varsity players, most definitely. Will they be impact players doubtful even if the schools program is so weak.