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Agree people need to embrace diversity. Bay Shore HS churns out great athletes AND academic kids. Do some research

There are many reasons why parents send their kid to private school. Over the years players from Wantagh, South Side, Massapequa, Syosset, Smithown, Ward melville, Garden City, Manhasset, Huntington, Cold Spring Harbor etc... have all opted to attend private school.

Every year the BS program loses students to the Catholic HS, Nothing new. The district also houses a big catholic school following which naturally funnels players to the catholic HS. Others find the value of a catholic environment and education for the secondary years. Then you have those which throw their hands up by the time they leave the MS.

In relation to Lacrosse it is very unfortunate the district loses (or never had) the top players in each grade. I am not sure this will change in the future. The impact of this affects the numbers and quality of depth. This is evident in their roster size they carry one of the smallest squads on LI. They are definitely one of the schools impacted by the catholic exodus.

how many other LI teams will have MS players or 9th graders play a pivotal role for the Varsity team.

how many other LI teams will have MS players or 9th graders play a pivotal role for the Varsity team.

The Bay Shore boy would not play a pivotal role on the Varsity team. From the looks of things at the LI Classic, they have some work to do. This particular boy is good, but like all younger players, once you get in there with experienced varsity players, you don't look so good anymore. Besides, he's going to St A's. Good luck to Bay Shore, it would be nice if the home town boys would stick around!

A bit off topic, but in perusing these forums today, I came to appreciate that middle school teams are a thing in NY. In MD, outside of the private schools, no such animal exists. This probably explains the dearth of talent coming out of the Maryland publics when compared to those in NY.

Enough about Bay Shore, what other teams are fortunate enough to have talented MSers 9th graders play up.

The Bay Shore boy would not play a pivotal role on the Varsity team. From the looks of things at the LI Classic, they have some work to do. This particular boy is good, but like all younger players, once you get in there with experienced varsity players, you don't look so good anymore. Besides, he's going to St A's. Good luck to Bay Shore, it would be nice if the home town boys would stick around!

To say the player will not have a pivotal role is Rediculous. I am sure he will start and probably be one of the top point leaders. Bay Shore has an uncanny way of working underclassman in, much because of need but it works for them. Good luck to all the boys

"You are right about one thing, he'll start on a 9th grade team nobody cares about!"

Why will nobody care about it? Because YOU don't care about it? How about the players, coaches, parents, , etc. on that team and the teams they play against? How about the numerous college coaches who attend that 9th grade teams games? Yeah, I guess nobody cares because you don't care about it.

Bay Shore has a problem because their lacrosse is a team not a program. There is no coordination between youth, middle school and high school. The town definitely has talented kids that live there, its just that a good amount leave for Catholic schools for many different reasons. But I am sure it would make the decision to leave harder for them if things were more coordinated. The school is safe and the education is very good so that's not the reason. They have some good kids coming up so time will tell.

I am not sure where the 9th grade game comment came from, does that even exists. Not even sure why you lumped JV in. IMHO I believe the post was about impactful players on varsity that happen to be 9th or younger.

Connetiquot and Smithtown had some high profile 9th graders last year. About 10 or so 8th graders played significant moments for their Varsity teams. What schools (outside of Bay Shore) have those young players filling roles this year.

The fact that this discussion has turned to what 8th and 9th graders will play significant roles on varsity teams speaks volumes to the fact that High School lacrosse on the Island is not very competitive (outside of the top 2 or three teams per league). Make a Power League already. As far as who cares about 9th grade lacrosse? I would say just about every major college coach in the country cares. 2018 and 2019 saw by far the most college coaches on their sidelines of any age groups this past fall and summer. The Top Club Teams draw an incredible amount of attention. Very few if any of the 2018's or 19" s would be able to compete with the top 2016 teams yet they are able to play major roles on varsity teams. An earlier post made reference to middle school lacrosse being a joke, well, most varsity programs are not much better. Same teams at the top year in and year out beating up on teams that have very few strong players and very limited depth. Even the top HS teams feel the need (for whateverreason) to bring up 9th graders. I think towns like Garden City, Syosset, Massapequa and Smithtown East could do just fine with out bringing up any 9th graders. Maybe the strong small schools do not have the depth.
Time for a Power League or smaller conferences so the teams can play more Non-League games against competitive teams. I bet that just about anyone who follows HS Lacrosse on the Island can predict the top 2 or three teams in each conference.

The fact that this discussion has turned to what 8th and 9th graders will play significant roles on varsity teams speaks volumes to the fact that High School lacrosse on the Island is not very competitive (outside of the top 2 or three teams per league). Make a Power League already. As far as who cares about 9th grade lacrosse? I would say just about every major college coach in the country cares. 2018 and 2019 saw by far the most college coaches on their sidelines of any age groups this past fall and summer. The Top Club Teams draw an incredible amount of attention. Very few if any of the 2018's or 19" s would be able to compete with the top 2016 teams yet they are able to play major roles on varsity teams. An earlier post made reference to middle school lacrosse being a joke, well, most varsity programs are not much better. Same teams at the top year in and year out beating up on teams that have very few strong players and very limited depth. Even the top HS teams feel the need (for whateverreason) to bring up 9th graders. I think towns like Garden City, Syosset, Massapequa and Smithtown East could do just fine with out bringing up any 9th graders. Maybe the strong small schools do not have the depth.
Time for a Power League or smaller conferences so the teams can play more Non-League games against competitive teams. I bet that just about anyone who follows HS Lacrosse on the Island can predict the top 2 or three teams in each conference.

"You are right about one thing, he'll start on a 9th grade team nobody cares about!"

Why will nobody care about it? Because YOU don't care about it? How about the players, coaches, parents, , etc. on that team and the teams they play against? How about the numerous college coaches who attend that 9th grade teams games? Yeah, I guess nobody cares because you don't care about it.

We have D1 juniors fighting for playing time.

Impossible..... What school ?

Impossible..... What school ?

Completely accurate on the girls side at 2-3 nassau county schools

Yes but for all the wrong reasons. GC does it so kids don't go to Chaminade. Every year GC Head Coach does his home visits and promises the parents the move up. Once the school year starts some do some dont get moved but now those kids are his. For some reason the parents fall for his story every year. Can't transfer into Chaminade once school starts. Also isn't there a rule on the books if you are moved up to Varsity as a freshmen you must play or be moved down to JV ???

only catholic school with that rule is Chammy. dom's , st Mary's , etc. all have freshman play

And St. A too.

Completely accurate on the girls side at 2-3 nassau county schools