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Basketball and football have been offering MS and freshmen for years. If you think they are only giving offers out to juniors and seniors, you really are an idiot.

Sure McGill is ranked high academically. And the pipeline of lacrosse players goes where? Nll? No MLL? No Wall Street? No

Front row at one of the classy "contact" gentleman clubs HELLYA

NLF in FL this wkend. Saw it was the first yr. If you sent your son, pls update us on the weekend. Thinking it is going to be run like 3d with players dorming.

Thank you.

NLF in FL this wkend. Saw it was the first yr. If you sent your son, pls update us on the weekend. Thinking it is going to be run like 3d with players dorming.

Thank you.

A lot of rich daddies too $$$$. I'm sure there's a lot more talent back home who can't afford a $2k weekend to lax. Calm down. Yea I know I'm an angry broke Dad whose son isn't there. Talent wise he should be , just can't afford it. It's a money game still and always will be. That's life.

My oldest son started playing lacrosse in the 7th grade. In college he just graduated last spring. He played on a ranked D1 team, his last 2 1/2 seasons and made honorable mention AA once and played in the NCAA tournament twice. He wasn't recruited much but was strong enough to walk on after he applied to and got into a selective college. He got a lot of merit based money to attend that was better than a lacrosse scholarship. I'm not saying things are the same now. It is super competitive to get the early attention and is expensive to go to these events. I have a 2020 boy who won't be an early recruit and he will likely go as his brother did...make the grades, get in and then consider playing if he wants or can.

I would say this; in my oldest son's class there were kids recruited who never played. My son played ahead of a top 25 IL high school recruit and a kid in the class behind him who was All-IAC in the DC prep league area. Top college players are almost never the same kids who were too 8th graders. I've seen it with my own eyes so many times. I don't think it gets better in terms of ER or how foolish the college coaches are behaving. All your son can control is being a good student first and then good enough player to merit getting a locker and a practice pinnie for fall ball in college. People will tell you a lot of things, but what I am telling you is it doesn't matter if Hop or UNC is full on 2018s or 2019s now. There is no such thing as a coach who doesn't love the free option on a kid who is good enough to compete on the practice field in fall. If your son is better than the kids who did all this NLF and other crap ad got committed in 9th grade, at that point your son will play and that kid will sit. Just focus on playing live and playing hard in practice. If you are better and deserving, you'll have nothing to worry about later.

Thanks for your insight. As a father of a very young lacrosse player, your response is very refreshing and enlightening. We put way too much pressure on our kids (at too young of an age) and ourselves in trying to develop the next lacrosse stud. I'd love for my son to be an excellent student first and then an athlete. Academics will provide many more opportunities in life..........

Ridiculous is what you are assuming. Trevor Baptiste started playing lacrosse as a high school soph. Fowler was recruited to be a FOGO when he was already enrolled at Duke. Let's examine Hopkins. My son applied there. Hopkins accepts about 15% of applicants. My son had 3.9 GPA then 4.6 WGPA and 93 percentile in the ACT. He got into Hopkins and UVA. At neither school did he get any push or pull for lacrosse. Lacrosse was just listed as an activity with accomplishments. He also did two summer volunteer summers tutoring underprivileged kids. He didn't do any Jake Reed crap beyond club lacrosse because of that schedule. Kids who get into Hop or UVA look like that profile. My son also applied to 6 Ivies and got into 2 and attended one of those.

What you are writing out is that without the gift of lacrosse a boy won't have his secured spot at a chosen school. That is a valid point. My son was, after all, qualified but didn't get into 4 Ivies or Amherst the last one on the list he applied to. What you wrote also means this to me: only lacrosse can save a boy who doesn't belong at Hop, Duke, UVA, Michigan, Georgetown, Notre Dame, Ivy. If a kid needs so much saving he is taking a spot from the straight up better students who have earned them to these colleges. It cuts both ways. Lacrosse parents lament plenty about all those undeserving kids reclassifying or going to prep schools to gobble up sports spots at colleges. That is all misguided. The best position your son can be in is to be qualified to be admitted at a selective college and then apply to several of them.

If you also think only the very special young recruits are suited to play college lacrosse, that is even more misguided. For every IL or RR ranked 9th grader today is a dozen just as good today and better tomorrow. And only tomorrow's count if you way to play a college sport in 2-3 years. I wish parents and kids would refocus on what is important over what is popular. Getting a Twitter shout is a hollow thing if you have bigger plans.

Ridiculous is what you are assuming. Trevor Baptiste started playing lacrosse as a high school soph. Fowler was recruited to be a FOGO when he was already enrolled at Duke. Let's examine Hopkins. My son applied there. Hopkins accepts about 15% of applicants. My son had 3.9 GPA then 4.6 WGPA and 93 percentile in the ACT. He got into Hopkins and UVA. At neither school did he get any push or pull for lacrosse. Lacrosse was just listed as an activity with accomplishments. He also did two summer volunteer summers tutoring underprivileged kids. He didn't do any Jake Reed crap beyond club lacrosse because of that schedule. Kids who get into Hop or UVA look like that profile. My son also applied to 6 Ivies and got into 2 and attended one of those.

What you are writing out is that without the gift of lacrosse a boy won't have his secured spot at a chosen school. That is a valid point. My son was, after all, qualified but didn't get into 4 Ivies or Amherst the last one on the list he applied to. What you wrote also means this to me: only lacrosse can save a boy who doesn't belong at Hop, Duke, UVA, Michigan, Georgetown, Notre Dame, Ivy. If a kid needs so much saving he is taking a spot from the straight up better students who have earned them to these colleges. It cuts both ways. Lacrosse parents lament plenty about all those undeserving kids reclassifying or going to prep schools to gobble up sports spots at colleges. That is all misguided. The best position your son can be in is to be qualified to be admitted at a selective college and then apply to several of them.

If you also think only the very special young recruits are suited to play college lacrosse, that is even more misguided. For every IL or RR ranked 9th grader today is a dozen just as good today and better tomorrow. And only tomorrow's count if you way to play a college sport in 2-3 years. I wish parents and kids would refocus on what is important over what is popular. Getting a Twitter shout is a hollow thing if you have bigger plans.

Talent level is off the charts here at NLF

I'm sure your instate ACC coach was telling u the truth. I'm sure if a 6'3" 210 lb kid who runs like the wind walked on he'd change is mind . Especially when the early commit he has is still 5'9" a buck 60 . Let's be rational , the grass is always greener .

what colleges sent coaches?

Many of you have headed off to School prospect days this Fall/Winter. Do you feel it was imperative to go as a freshman to get your son noticed or get his name on a list. How did you hear about these days? Was it fellow teammates, Directors or your own investigation. If all of the above what % was each.

With all of the talk about the players being young and the potential for the colleges to slow down, did that impact any of your decisions to slow it down a bit (and maybe save some $$). I want to be penny wise but not lb foolish.

My son is a 2018 and he just verballed to a mid D1 school. The school had been looking at him and they invited him to their prospect day. He happened to have a phenomenal day at the prospect day and the coaches invited him for an overnight the following week. He loved the campus and the current players and especially the coaching staff. They made him an offer right away and he ended up deciding to take it. So in my experience if there is mutual interest the prospect day is a vital part of the process, my son would not have been offered without it. It also obviously gave us the opportunity to see the campus and meet the coaching staff in person. Having said all that, if there was no interest from the coaching staff, we would have not wasted our time going to the prospect day. We went to a few others and I found it to be a waste of time because my son was not on the radar at those schools. Hope this helps.

I guess the question is how are you finding out about the prospect days, through club, school, other

I guess the question is how are you finding out about the prospect days, through club, school, other

what colleges sent coaches?

That is a ridiculous comment.

To some extent, I agree with the guy. My son has gotten more recognition playing with his team(s) at good tournaments and at prospect days than he has at showcase events. The style of play rrquired to stand out at most showcases is horrible.