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I've been involved with the lax recruiting craziness for several years but my little laxer just signed her NLI last week so hopefully I'm done. But, I will offer a little perspective if you will allow me.
For my daughter's club team, I was the person that gave out the flyers to the college coaches. I've done it since the fall of 2013, and I've met and talked to over 100 coaches. I've asked about 100 of them if they knew the score of the game they were watching, because with my duties I couldn't keep track or see the little scores across the field. 99.99% did not know the score. 99.99% of the parents did. The coaches are there to watch the girls they are recruiting, not really the game as a whole. I'm sure they get a "feel" for the score or who is ahead, but it's mostly irrelevant to them. For the most part, parents "get it", and know that the important thing is how the girls play and perform. There are some club's parents out there that seem to live and die with the team's successes or failures (YJ), like it's the superbowl. Everyone wants to win, but as the girls get into the recruiting zone, winning and losing becomes a LOT less important and on-field performance takes precedent (except to YJ).

I've been involved with the lax recruiting craziness for several years but my little laxer just signed her NLI last week so hopefully I'm done. But, I will offer a little perspective if you will allow me.
For my daughter's club team, I was the person that gave out the flyers to the college coaches. I've done it since the fall of 2013, and I've met and talked to over 100 coaches. I've asked about 100 of them if they knew the score of the game they were watching, because with my duties I couldn't keep track or see the little scores across the field. 99.99% did not know the score. 99.99% of the parents did. The coaches are there to watch the girls they are recruiting, not really the game as a whole. I'm sure they get a "feel" for the score or who is ahead, but it's mostly irrelevant to them. For the most part, parents "get it", and know that the important thing is how the girls play and perform. There are some club's parents out there that seem to live and die with the team's successes or failures (YJ), like it's the superbowl. Everyone wants to win, but as the girls get into the recruiting zone, winning and losing becomes a LOT less important and on-field performance takes precedent (except to YJ).

You are once again mixing issues up. The fact that college coaches don't care what the score is is irrelelavent. That is true in all sports. They r recruiting individuals, not teams. So what? Therefore the players shouldn't care about the outcome? That's ridiculous. And quite frankly, women's lax is a little immature in its evaluation technique btw. I would advise coaches to think a little bit about the situations in games. Because ultimately they will make better recruiting decisions on kids if they are in the competitive context of a game. Which girl wants to take the game winning shot for example? Who makes the key plays in the key moments? It's what everyone missed w Tom Brady for example. Maybe they should start caring about the context of the game? Another discussion I guess.

I'm sure college coaches appreciate your recommendation on what they should be looking for.

The colleges flock to the teams that they know are in the top of their class. I.e. Won the most games. Winning is importantant but maybe not in that particular game that they come to watch.

True. Looks to be the model that MnD follows - win in middle school. Have the "brand" - coaches will come. Repeat.

Then send kids to college for basket weaving.

Another umd commit from heros

What's that, two?
Wow. Coach Reese will be done with her 2019 class by spring. I wonder when the other programs will start going into "panic mode" and start pressuring.

Any one have any knowledge, as opposed to speculation, as to the earliest time that the new proposal will actually be considered?

Any one have any knowledge, as opposed to speculation, as to the earliest time that the new proposal will actually be considered?

Earliest will be 2017

If this new rule is voted on and put in place it will start right away and there will not be any grandfathering period. All verbals will be just what they are a conversation that doesn't mean anything anymore. The process will start all over when the NCAA says it can .

The more rules you put in place the more rules will be broken. Wake up people. There should be no restrictions on contacts. If parents and coaches want to communicate let it be. If a kid commits early so be it. There are plenty of spots in college womens lacrosse. Putting rules on it closes the curtain and causes all the rumor nonsense going on currently. Do you really think there will be no contact because some rule says so???

Absolutely right. The NCAA needs to put some accountability where it belongs , on the coaches make the early verbal binding and limit the amount for each class.Do away with 50 player rosters this way when an early doesn't work out it is felt by the program. In this current recruiting climate a coach can scoop up all the "9th grade talent" without any care as to how the student athlete will develop over the next 3. Yrs. Their philosophy to bring in 12 - 15 recruits a class and hope 4 or 5 pan out because they have 50 player rosters may end if the NCAA can figure a way to limit the amount of recruits. Under the current trend the only ones that can lose are the girls.

If this new rule is voted on and put in place it will start right away and there will not be any grandfathering period. All verbals will be just what they are a conversation that doesn't mean anything anymore. The process will start all over when the NCAA says it can .

Yes the verbal will stand between coach and player but the will still have to abide by the no contact rule as proposed. Fact

Explain ? Really ?

Has anyone heard of any 2019 goalie commits?

2019 commits keep coming. Several top teams have filled half their classes already. Congrats to the girls.

I call BS on that.