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Cheap shots r one thing being aggressive is another ,they barely let the girls play defense as is.

Not really. They were asked by CR personally. The girls that were asked are definitely the top players and the other parents on the team shouldn't be upset IMO. Hopefully their kids will get to go next year with the entire team

Listen. Every team has unhappy PARENTS. it is really not the kids. I know a few parents on a couple of diff teams, they are the unhappy ones(daughter doesnt play enough, only plays D). IT IS EVERY TEAM.

There was a tryout , not everyone at try-out made the team, was not an open try-out invite only.So funny I hear some of the true blue 2016 parents upset their kid not asked to try-out, they think everyone should have been given the chance unless of course you are not on team defo.Unfortunately for that team they are just not that deep, a few very good kids carry the te

Thanks for genuinely caring and asking your question civilly. The answer is yes. Everyone familiar will agree that their style is beyond aggressive. Let's just move on. I for one am not pleased with the culture that's all. No need to attack or call names. It is clear to me that I want a different culture. Not one based on bending or manipulating young girls and the rules. Good luck to all the girls and the parents.

I agreed with most of your post until the last sentence...of course your kid is one of the few, right? To say there is only a few is an insult to the rest of the girls. Must kill you to have your daughter play with such unskilled players.

A "few" is a stretch. what an ego. fire away, I know it's coming but felt it needed to be written.

That's not saying much for your organization if they can't put together one team that's deep as opposed to having just a few to carry the whole team.

It may be a response to unhappy players/parents complaining about lack of playing time that the teams are somewhat forced to give equal playing time to the players. With more and more options of other clubs uprising, the threat of losing players to other clubs is rising if they don't get playing time. I'm not too sure it hurts the club fincially as there are plenty of kids to move up and fill roster spots, but in the long run it will hurt the depth of talent of each age group.

Don't have kid on this team was just an observation , could be wrong but do not think so,did have kid at tryout though

This theory certainly does not come from the top down as the team coached by CR did not sub at national draw. She isn't worried about hurting feelings and driving people away on her own team, much less on the rest of the club, why would she impose on any of her coaches to do otherwise? This play to win and sub as you like seems to be in each coaches hands. I get the feeling many of the top half of the team could care less if the non starters of the team did up and leave, which is just sad.

You sure know a lot about a private tryout. To not be on the team

Well said, I guess the original poster can't respond because there is no response for such a statement. Other than trying to change the subject or call names. This seems to be the culture so many are running away from.

I agree, no need to give your name, but can you or your daughter answer this question, do the coaches of 2015 real blue promote the stick checks to the hand, stick buts to the opponent's back, etc.

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Thanks for genuinely caring and asking your question civilly. The answer is yes. Everyone familiar will agree that their style is beyond aggressive. Let's just move on. I for one am not pleased with the culture that's all. No need to attack or call names. It is clear to me that I want a different culture. Not one based on bending or manipulating young girls and the rules. Good luck to all the girls and the parents. [/quote]





The coach promotes this and "everyone" knows it?

I honestly am having difficulty believing you. I am not calling you a liar in any way, it just sounds so off the wall to me. Nothing is more important than keeping these girls safe, and you are implying that any team that plays this team should be worried about their safety, because the coach is flat out promoting violence that could cause long term injury to kids. Please correct me if I am misunderstanding you.

Can any other 2015 YJ parent back these allegations, or is this a case of a disgruntled parent?

So funny, a private try-out, again I think you are confused ,both 2015 blues some 2016 blues some 2014, some 2015 non blue, not all that private

It is not SAD. The talented players came to the YJ to get away from the girls that are not athletic and NOT skilled at Lax which they have to continually deal with when they play on there town lax teams.The talented YJ girls are not treated like babies(like at the pal divisions). These girls are frustrated when a YJ is not up to par and does not deserve to play with the better girls. These girls want to WIN to prepare them for college.

Did your daughter shoot out of the womb a superstar? BTW...stop speaking because you are illustrating the mentality so many are tired of except for the select few womb shot superstars on each team mentioned earlier.

wasnt' meant to be funny - private in the sense that you had to be asked to try out. it wasn't open for everyone. who cares at this point? congrats to both teams going! Let's hope for a threepeat!!!! Go Jackets!

Thanks for genuinely caring and asking your question civilly. The answer is yes. Everyone familiar will agree that their style is beyond aggressive. Let's just move on. I for one am not pleased with the culture that's all. No need to attack or call names. It is clear to me that I want a different culture. Not one based on bending or manipulating young girls and the rules. Good luck to all the girls and the parents. [/quote]





The coach promotes this and "everyone" knows it?

I honestly am having difficulty believing you. I am not calling you a liar in any way, it just sounds so off the wall to me. Nothing is more important than keeping these girls safe, and you are implying that any team that plays this team should be worried about their safety, because the coach is flat out promoting violence that could cause long term injury to kids. Please correct me if I am misunderstanding you.

Can any other 2015 YJ parent back these allegations, or is this a case of a disgruntled parent? [/quote]

I understand the frustration believing. It is also not the coach yelling on the field saying"hit her hands". It's not. It's a culture of aggressiveness which includes following through on checks after the whistle (rarely called for a foul). Hitting on the hands after a shot or pass (rarely called for a foul)'. These are taught. Ask any player. It is not exclusive to our club and it originates from the HS coaches who coach here.
Let's do this...watch a 2015 LM game and see if this occurs. Watch for the two things stated above. There are more like mouthing off to the refs and overall bad behavior as well. That's the culture I am referring to. Go see for yourself.

Well yes it is a private try out when only "SOME" 2016,and 2014 are invited. If all the girls that fell under the age requirement were there , then it would be a general try out. To even attend you had to be invited , that makes it private. And by the way , Carol has every rite to invite or exclude any player she chooses. Its her club and it is an added event that is not included in the normal club repertoire .

Unfortunately it seems that team has been completely destroyed by parent egos.It seems to me after reading most of what's on here the egos of your so called selected kids parents and non selected kids parents have ruined a very promissing team

[/quote]I understand the frustration believing. It is also not the coach yelling on the field saying"hit her hands". It's not. It's a culture of aggressiveness which includes following through on checks after the whistle (rarely called for a foul). Hitting on the hands after a shot or pass (rarely called for a foul)'. These are taught. Ask any player. It is not exclusive to our club and it originates from the HS coaches who coach here.
Let's do this...watch a 2015 LM game and see if this occurs. Watch for the two things stated above. There are more like mouthing off to the refs and overall bad behavior as well. That's the culture I am referring to. Go see for yourself. [/quote]




But if these dangerous tactics are in fact "taught" by YJ coaches like you said, should there be some kind of investigation into the yellowjackets and their methods? Do we need to wait for kids to have scarred faces, broken fingers or broken backs before this is put to an end? And I wonder how many have already been injured because of a coach promoting violence? This is insanity. I really can't believe what you are saying, because I just can't see a grown man teaching this to girls who are barely teenagers.

I wonder this: if he is actually "teaching" this and players confirm this allegation, is he liable if a kid gets hurt? I don't know the answer.

I will watch 2015BlueLM and everyone else should (including refs and CR herself), and if these allegations are proven true, I feel sorry for him, the players, and the entire YJ organization.

Your attitude is sad, it is the very attitude that a very few have but gives the club on a whole a bad reputation of arrogant, obnoxious people. You serve it well.

And one of the parents who says i paid my money , my kid is the best, dont passs it around, go to the cage every time you touch it and i hope the coach of our team doesn't sub in the bottom of the roster in close games. WHRERE DO I SIGNN UP UP SO I CAN SIT NEXT TO YOU ON THE WEEKENDS. SOUNDS LIKE FUN!!!!!

I seriously do not understand why trying to win games and tournaments has become a bad thing. Go to any travel baseball or competitive football game and kids getting more playing time especially in close games is the norm not the exception.I personally think in the tournament as a whole playing time should be about equal but during the playoffs play to win.If the coach believes a certain group of players gives them a better chance so be it , if a coach believes subbing more often will get them the win so be it.I have watched while my child has sat out during more competitive games and I know how it feels even when in your own mind you believe your child can contribute to a win,that being said you have many options, move to a different team ,talk to the coach find out where they feel your kid needs improvement and work on it,cheer on the team and see if your child really minds not getting as much playing time as some others.You may be surprised some kids are happy just being on the team some kids need to feel like the star.No matter what, I do not think throwing teammates ,coaches etc under the bus online is the answer

I sat next to two parents like that today. I had to walk away before the half even ended. Painful.

Congrats to all YJ players on UNDER ARMOUR team.

The South only won because the North kept subbing. Too bad the North didn't just play their top 12 in the second, they would have rolled.

Congrats to YJ who played on Underclass Team. Tourney Champions!! Great Job Coach Rose and Skakandi

That North vs South game was an enbarassment!!

Here we go again. But this is a good lesson for you all. The result of this game is meaningless. The girls on these teams are the best of the best. So we have girls on this team who dominate club and school ball, but now on a team of superstars they may be the bottom of the bench. Wish they would have played for the win and let 12 girls watch game, it would put many of you in the same position as you complain about here on these boards. Except for a couple of these girls, most all of you will be on teams next year most likely as role players with majorly reduced roll from what they are used to, so careful what you shovel. In the end congrats to all the girls, years of hard work got them there and luckily they all got to play.

LOL...I guess I have to be a little less subtle for the Long Islanders among us...irony is not one of your strengths!!!

That team played a 2019 in semi-finals with 6-7 2020 kids on it and didn't sub until the very end, what does that tell you about the club philosophy?

The jackets never hide there philosophy of playing kids who give them the best chance of winning. If you disagree with it, there are other clubs with different subbing policies. I am more concerned about there supposed philosophy (at least on 2015 real blue) of promoting reckless stick checks towards the body, checks to the hands, and stickbuts to the backs. For the sake of the coaches of that team, I really hope this is untrue.

Go to their games and watch. Keep in mind that it has to be against an equal team. Not the 20 to 1 blowout. That’s when there true colors come out. I much rather see an honest loss than a cheap win.

All the crying and finger pointing is just that. Your teams got beat because the other teams are better, plain and simple. i hope you don't have to play Sky Walkers because they are without a doubt the best team this summer. Please stop your whining and try to get your daughters ready for Friday because it's going to be a battle. No more excuses, I have seen on this thread numerous times you parents crowing how excellent every YJ blue team is from top to bottom, and how your girls are better than every other team in the country, now we all know thats not true. deal with it and stop thinking your going to win every game by 20 because of the Bee on your back. No one is afraid of you anymore. you fricken babies.

i wish everyteam good luck this weekend it should be a very nice tournemnt. All this name clling and my team is better than yours is taking away why we r planying this weekend. So many of our lives have been touched by this horrible disease that yes my daughter will have that bee on her back but most important she will have our name on her back and remember all her aunts and family members that have suffered in one way or another from this disease, i read these things you post about other peoples daughters and husbands and get cought up in it but i want my daughter and her team mates to be proud of htat bee on therir back listen they play lacrosse because they love it can we remeber that its not a war

We complain about the refs constantly, but perhaps if the refs, coaches and tournament organizers knew before hand that 2015 Yellow Jackets Blue LM has a tainted reputation of dirty play (and a coach who supposedly endorses it), we could possibly avoid a kid getting injured.

And please restrain from comments like "All YJ teams play dirty" because this is just one specific team and coach that the parent had an opinion on, don't associate it with every yj team.

I'm actually surprised there aren't more people defending this coach and stating with conviction that you or your daughter have never heard any inkling of acceptance/promotion of dirty play with intent to injure.

The only fricken baby is you wasting your time bashing an excellent team and top club in the country because of your jealousy. The YJ have earned there excellent reputation and your nonsense won't take it away!

They will bash this team no matter what anyone says. They will get last laugh because College coaches scoop these kids up in a heart beat. The buzz is all about them!!

Seems like M&D is the top team/club in the country. You havent been able to beat them this year