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Yes. They lost to M&D and yes she purposely went after the hand. The ref was shocked and yelled at her and told her to get off the field. And yes the Coach was behind it. Very dirty and very low

The coaches encourage it. I have see nit first hand. If a girl get a YC they laugh on the sidelines,

Same thing happened in the TG/YJ game. It is dirty and low. It always ticks me off when a team plays dirty when they've got enough skills to play the game without stooping to that level.

Same thing happened in the TG/YJ game. It is dirty and low. It always ticks me off when a team plays dirty when they've got enough skills to play the game without stooping to that level.

YJ COACHES DONT ENCOURAGE PLAYERS TO INJURY ANYONE> BE REAL. I SEE YOUR KID IS A TG PLAYER BUT TO STOOP THAT LOW AND ACCUSE COACHES OF THAT IS DISGUSTING.

I did not accuse anyone, just stated what I saw. Stop screaming with your caps, too, please.

Like someone posted earlier, it's clear that, at minimum, some YJ coaches condone this style of play. So there's my direct statement about YJ coaches.

I find this incredibly hard to believe. I think these coaches are smart enough to realize that if a kid injures an opponent based upon encouragement from a coach, there will be [lacrosse] to pay.

The only way to sop the Y.J. from overly aggressive play is to play the same way and watch them cry. Take a yellow or two and out thug the thugs

This is an irresponsible comment. BOTC does not support this method of remediation in any form.

Referee education is the answer; if the play is illegal, tighter control will correct the situation.

There is also the point that a more physical game that is used at the high school age level is not the same type of game that needs to be taught at the middle and elementary school level.

Leave the weak players at home instead of on the sideline. That case was parents and players alienating other players making their own tournament team. Sneaky, behind the back stuff going on there. Not sure if its any worse or any different than the coaches and

club directors alienating players during the game, out in the open. Both scenerios stink.

This is an irresponsible comment. BOTC does not support this method of remediation in any form.

Referee education is the answer; if the play is illegal, tighter control will correct the situation.

There is also the point that a more physical game that is used at the high school age level is not the same type of game that needs to be taught at the middle and elementary school level.

Gosh, if they truly went behind some players/parents backs that really is sneaky and divisive. Total lack of loyalty. Speaks volumes though...

I was at this game and yes more than once they purposely went after the players hands, yes the offsides thing occured and very poor reffing went on. Just play the game fair is all, dont win by playing desperate.

You all play on the same team and your kids enjoy each other ,drop it already ,either shut your mouths and accept that people make mistakes or move on and join another club.Everyone knows there are too many kids on each team if some parent wants to put together a team to play at a tournament so be it. If my kid was not asked and really wanted to play have the courage to ask or put your own team in,stop whining

I was at this game and yes more than once they purposely went after the players hands, yes the offsides thing occured and very poor reffing went on. Just play the game fair is all, dont win by playing desperate.

Sorry, it's not that simple. First, let me say, I do not even know if this happened or not. However, if the coach of one of the Yellow Jackets teams, during an off weekend, hand selected a team of players---from within his own Yellow Jackets team---to participate in a tournament, without extending an invitation to the entire team, that is a fireable offense.

That is a completely divisive thing to do, violates the very notion of being the head coach of a team by demonstrating outright favoritism and goes well beyond merely the appearance of a conflict of interest...he has an obligation to devote his coaching resources to the ENTIRE team, not just his top players.

Again, I do not even know if this happened, and frankly, I find it hard to believe that it did. But if it did, any organization with an ounce of organizational integrity would immediately recognize that a coach that did such a thing violated his duty and broke his trust with the rest of the team members and their parents. I cannot even imagine a planet that exists wherein the coach of my daughter's team would pull such a brazen and ill-advised stunt.

I'll say it one more time---this may not have even happened. But if it did, an apology is irrelevant. He divided his team, demonstrated favoritism, and used incredibly poor judgment. This is not an issue of playing time, the issue here is one of coaching resources...he allegedly offered some of the paying members of the team the additional opportunity for practice, play, and instruction, but not the rest of the team.

If it's true, it is indefensible and time for a new coach.

Or a new team.

Sorry, it's not that simple. First, let me say, I do not even know if this happened or not. However, if the coach of one of the Yellow Jackets teams, during an off weekend, hand selected a team of players---from within his own Yellow Jackets team---to participate in a tournament, without extending an invitation to the entire team, that is a fireable offense.

That is a completely divisive thing to do, violates the very notion of being the head coach of a team by demonstrating outright favoritism and goes well beyond merely the appearance of a conflict of interest...he has an obligation to devote his coaching resources to the ENTIRE team, not just his top players.

Again, I do not even know if this happened, and frankly, I find it hard to believe that it did. But if it did, any organization with an ounce of organizational integrity would immediately recognize that a coach that did such a thing violated his duty and broke his trust with the rest of the team members and their parents. I cannot even imagine a planet that exists wherein the coach of my daughter's team would pull such a brazen and ill-advised stunt.

I'll say it one more time---this may not have even happened. But if it did, an apology is irrelevant. He divided his team, demonstrated favoritism, and used incredibly poor judgment. This is not an issue of playing time, the issue here is one of coaching resources...he allegedly offered some of the paying members of the team the additional opportunity for practice, play, and instruction, but not the rest of the team.

If it's true, it is indefensible and time for a new coach.

Or a new team.

It is true. The tournament is called "Rock the Fields". Look up the schedule and you will see a single 2016 team called "Misc" and then you can see names of the rostered players on that team.

Sorry, it's not that simple. First, let me say, I do not even know if this happened or not. However, if the coach of one of the Yellow Jackets teams, during an off weekend, hand selected a team of players---from within his own Yellow Jackets team---to participate in a tournament, without extending an invitation to the entire team, that is a fireable offense.

That is a completely divisive thing to do, violates the very notion of being the head coach of a team by demonstrating outright favoritism and goes well beyond merely the appearance of a conflict of interest...he has an obligation to devote his coaching resources to the ENTIRE team, not just his top players.

Again, I do not even know if this happened, and frankly, I find it hard to believe that it did. But if it did, any organization with an ounce of organizational integrity would immediately recognize that a coach that did such a thing violated his duty and broke his trust with the rest of the team members and their parents. I cannot even imagine a planet that exists wherein the coach of my daughter's team would pull such a brazen and ill-advised stunt.

I'll say it one more time---this may not have even happened. But if it did, an apology is irrelevant. He divided his team, demonstrated favoritism, and used incredibly poor judgment. This is not an issue of playing time, the issue here is one of coaching resources...he allegedly offered some of the paying members of the team the additional opportunity for practice, play, and instruction, but not the rest of the team.

If it's true, it is indefensible and time for a new coach.

Or a new team.

First of all it is a fact!2016 Blue "DEFOE" has been doing it for years. I agree with you if a team is searching out addiitional tournaments there is absolutley nothing wrong with that! Now; I also believe the offer should be extended to the entire team. The problem here is NOTcoach Defoe this all spearheaded by one parent and NOT coach Defoe. She is very selfish woman and wants her child only playing with "high caliber" type players.

Yes its there under misc. team.
Wow

I was at this game and yes more than once they purposely went after the players hands, yes the offsides thing occured and very poor reffing went on. Just play the game fair is all, dont win by playing desperate.

Everyone from LI to Maryland to NJ to CT knows the YJ are trained to play outside the rules. The coaches to the director do it in plain sight, in your face if you will. They are heard on the field and at the scorers table. Former players and parents talk about it. Now can we just move forward. If the officials will not do something about it it WLL NOT change. Please don't attempt to defend or deny. It's true. They use their butt end on defense with intent to intimidate and injure. They check hands with intent to intimidate and injure. Their former players report they are taught this so take it up with your own. BTW it is obvious. Insiders report the cheating....this means setting up schedules to give an unfair advantage at tournaments...that's cheating. Again this is reported by YJ members. Let's just move on....if this is for you then stay with this club. If not change. Enough said.

Everyone knows your youth coach was too drunk to walk in front of his team,everyone knows your coaches put you in the B division move on if your happy playing in the B division with one of your coaches being too drunk to stay on his feet good for you

A big difference between a parent doing it and or the coach. Since when is it anyone's business what any of these people do in their spare time, they can invite whoever they want to play in a tournament with them.Stop being so dramatic happens all the time on many teams.A yj parents puts their child's school team into a tournament and needs some extra players so they invite a couple of YJ teammates.Amazing that sports have now become so politically correct, baseball teams have all-star games at all ages not every kid is asked to try-out.Grow up, so your kid wasn't asked, move on.Now you know what the kids who work just as hard as your kid feels like when they are put on the red team or gold or. blue 2 for that matter.

Coaches kid on roster also.

Well, I can tell you this...he has some serious explaining to do. I cannot believe that any self-respecting organization would tolerate that kind of divisive, counter-productive, and just plain dumb decision making.

Truly disgraceful. So much for "team" and "loyalty."