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Dget suckered in by these people. You only have to go to one tournament to get your kid looked at. The rest is up to you. Depends on how far you want to take it. This is what I say, screw travel and go to any prospect camp that interest your son. It's much cheaper and he can pick which college he is interested in and be looked at by the college coach. Plus you get to see thr campus. I'm done paying big money

Dget suckered in by these people. You only have to go to one tournament to get your kid looked at. The rest is up to you. Depends on how far you want to take it. This is what I say, screw travel and go to any prospect camp that interest your son. It's much cheaper and he can pick which college he is interested in and be looked at by the college coach. Plus you get to see thr campus. I'm done paying big money

I wouldn't want to go to a team where they have kids parents doing the evalutions that's for sure. There's one out of Five I wouldn't go to.

What qualifies the parents to be evaluators? Why not have all the coaches do the evaluations. Parents need to be parents and stop thinking they are coaches. If they are not on the sidelines during the season then they should not have any say unless they don't have faith in the coaches to make the decisions. Who needs parent coaches. Don't you think the kids are beyond that? Let the coaches coach.

Or when you are a HS coach, coaching your 2019 kid on his travel team, and he is not too good, what to do? Put him on a 2020 team and reclass. This just happened! Nice message you are sending "coach"!

Parent need to keep their mouths shut, let the coaches coach and the players play. Our kids are not 8 yrs. old anymore. Enough is enough, let them play and sit there and keep your mouth shut. Parents are the worst.

Come on how does this slip through and others get censored. really

I don't agree with the post (calling out particular people) going through but Parents do not need to keep their mouths shut. Actually they should speak up more. They are the clients; the ones in charge.

The coaches/organizations need to be reminded they are being paid for a service, if the expected service isnt given, the parents, the ones who are shelling out the money have the right to speak up and have a say. (within limits of course).

Come on how does this slip through and others get censored. really

If adults want to call each other out, we are good with it, you are grown ups.... Handle it. Just leave the kids out of it.

I am okay with calling the adult out. But I don't believe the kids were left out of the post... called them "not good" then proceeded to accuse of reclassing.

Give me a break, the only time people ever have a problem with a program is when Their littlejohnie doesn't make the team.the best part is that their son doesnt make any top team and he starts calling foul on all clubs. when he does make the team and other kids are cut it is ok because they say my son was the best player out there, u never hear them complaining about other kids not making it

I just wish parents were more realistic with their sons ability. Here is alittle insider info for you crazy parents. You should all know that programs take into consideration the parents when there are a few kids who are equal in skill. Every program is getting rid of these extreme lax parents who cause nothing but headaches on the sidelines. Pain in the [lacrosse] parents will go to several programs and always complain And they wonder why they have been cut on not one or two but 3 teams

My son plays for the coach you are attacking and at times the same position as his son. Because the world is not perfect I was not always 100% pleased at some of the decisions the coaches made but my boy played where he was told to, to the best of his ability and his efforts were appreciated. This coach set a good example for his team on and off the field and I am glad my son had the privilege of becoming friends with his son because that boy is a great kid in every sense of the word! Insulting the coach anonymously is bad enough but dragging a kids feelings through the mud on an open forum is the act of a twisted coward. My son has been disparaged on this site before and I ignored it but I could not keep my mouth shut on this one...

I don't believe anyone was singled out, however if any coach reclasses his son because of his abilities, I see that as wrong and cheating, not bring a role model model for the sport. I bet a lot of others would too. Anything for that scholarship?

Are we allowed to ask which coach you are talking about?

Couldn't agree with you more when you say keep the kids out of it. The real problem for the most part comes down to the parents. If we let our kids just play and enjoy watching them then we should be happy. Parents think they run the organization and feel like they need to give their evaluations is nonsense. They mislead the parents when they do stuff like that. Parents think the coach is the one making decisions but in reality the parent who thinks he's a big part of the team makes decision. I bet if parents knew that was the case they would not choose that team. I know I wouldn't. I don't need a parent deciding my kids future with a team especially if the parent has something against your kid for whatever reason or his son doesn't like your son. There's a little bit of a conflict don't you think. Keep the parents out of it. If an organization can't do the evaluations on their own then they should not have a team. Get all the coaches from all the teams in the organization to do the evaluations.

Couldn't agree with you more when you say keep the kids out of it. The real problem for the most part comes down to the parents. If we let our kids just play and enjoy watching them then we should be happy. Parents think they run the organization and feel like they need to give their evaluations is nonsense. They mislead the parents when they do stuff like that. Parents think the coach is the one making decisions but in reality the parent who thinks he's a big part of the team makes decision. I bet if parents knew that was the case they would not choose that team. I know I wouldn't. I don't need a parent deciding my kids future with a team especially if the parent has something against your kid for whatever reason or his son doesn't like your son. There's a little bit of a conflict don't you think. Keep the parents out of it. If an organization can't do the evaluations on their own then they should not have a team. Get all the coaches from all the teams in the organization to do the evaluations.

What are you talking about? No parent that isn't a coach or owner has that kind of "pull". I wished parents could stay out of it also, but unfortunately with these lofty prices I see it an impossibility. Please clarify are talking about a parent actually having "pull" or voicing their concerns. At times I am glad the parents speak up, do your expect people to stay quiet when they pay upwards of 2k when they do not like what is happening. Why wouldnt parents speak up.

What team are you talking about that a parent had "behind the scenes" control. Manipulating the parents. (That is how I understood your post... Is that how you meant it). I'd bet if you thought that way another parent would completely disagree. Do you know this for fact or just conjecture. Every story has more than two sides.

It is fact. Don't want to mention the team cause that's not me as a person. Made it out to be something good then it turns out to be something different. Walks around like he owns the organization. If I would have known that I would not have been on that team. That was something I wanted to get awsy from. But it's the truth. I was blind to it until I had a talk with him personally. Stuff like this is not what I'm trying to build here. What would you take from that comment?

Couldn't agree with you more when you say keep the kids out of it. The real problem for the most part comes down to the parents. If we let our kids just play and enjoy watching them then we should be happy. Parents think they run the organization and feel like they need to give their evaluations is nonsense. They mislead the parents when they do stuff like that. Parents think the coach is the one making decisions but in reality the parent who thinks he's a big part of the team makes decision. I bet if parents knew that was the case they would not choose that team. I know I wouldn't. I don't need a parent deciding my kids future with a team especially if the parent has something against your kid for whatever reason or his son doesn't like your son. There's a little bit of a conflict don't you think. Keep the parents out of it. If an organization can't do the evaluations on their own then they should not have a team. Get all the coaches from all the teams in the organization to do the evaluations.

Give me a break, the only time people ever have a problem with a program is when Their littlejohnie doesn't make the team.the best part is that their son doesnt make any top team and he starts calling foul on all clubs. when he does make the team and other kids are cut it is ok because they say my son was the best player out there, u never hear them complaining about other kids not making it

I just wish parents were more realistic with their sons ability. Here is alittle insider info for you crazy parents. You should all know that programs take into consideration the parents when there are a few kids who are equal in skill. Every program is getting rid of these extreme lax parents who cause nothing but headaches on the sidelines. Pain in the [lacrosse] parents will go to several programs and always complain And they wonder why they have been cut on not one or two but 3 teams