BOTC - US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums NORTHEAST LACROSSE BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) Boys 2024-4th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016

I'm glad wasn't a tool. Quotes from coach wooden lol. 9 yrs old. I was eating fruit loops, playing with my friends. Like a real kid, not some robot. I was a good athlete, having fun. I'm 48 yrs old now, I have a great family and a great career. I'm happy my dad was a normal guy, not some obsessed wacko. John wooden lol.

Maximum effort is its own reward. Winning is fun. Go ahead and say that's abnormal. If that makes you feel better about breeding a non competitive little boy, Bravo! My son will stick with the path laid out by the greats, not by you.

This guy has some serious issues. I bet his kid is ashamed of him.

You're insane!!! What the [lacrosse] is wrong with you? Putting all that pressure on a 9 yr old! The kid's going to HATE you for what you're doing to him. Embarrassing. Were you not hugged enough as a child? I know one thing for sure, you sucked at sports!! Didn't your father read to you the John Wooden book? Lol. Loser

Wow.. Pretty clear now. You were a zero in high school are now a fat loser who wants more for his son so puts crazy pressure on him. He's probably not that good or barely hanging on,which makes it worse for him and you.

you know nothing about me and I don't need to share my athletic successes with you to support three fundamental facts.

A Teams or their equivalents are where everyone deep down inside wants their kids, in sports and life.
Winning beats losing every time. EVERY TIME.
A commitment to excellence is a critical element of success

"Great men are true men, the men in whom nature has succeeded. They are not extraordinary - they are in the true order. It is the other species of men who are not what they ought to be."

Henri Fredric Amiel

You sound like a robot. Do you recite winston churchill quotes to your son before dinner. The point is , my son is a great student and very good in sports. Yet he is both of those things, with normal parents. He is a kid, who enjoys being a kid. I'd rather my kid lose a 9 year old lacrosse game and be a kid having fun, then win being a cyborg.

To bad Igloo doesn't do any fall tourneys. Would love to witness this jokers act from the sideline. I'm sure he would be easy to spot.

Igoo doesn't do fa tourneys? Why? It's excellent practice & gets the boys excited. It doesn't reflect the whole team because most Normal people will realize it's the fall and a lot of kids will be missing due to other commitments but it is excellent practice. So any quoting team wins is ridicilious.

"The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is." Sir Winston Churchill

This nut job is not an igloo parent.

because you have none!

And you are an - Olympic medalist? Nobel laureate? Step up and tell us, actually don't bother, I'll continue to rely upon other high achievers to set an example for my boy. In addition to myself of course.

How can igloo justify 3k with no fall tourneys?? Express practicing more and playing in 3 fall tournaments.

You will all never know. See you on the sidelines.

Wishing all the kids a winning and safe season.

Man the more you write on thise thread, the more you sound like a tool. Go find a friend or robot to hang with. Go find some ghandi quotes in the library. Ill be enjoying watching football with my boys.

Even Ghandi understood sports "full effort is full victory" Ghandi

Maybe you should be PLAYING football with your boys?

Enjoy the nachos!

Played this morning. My 9 yr old had a touchdown, was a beast on d line as well. Then had pizza with his friends, now jet game. Ok there geek. Go write a poem with your R2 D2 kid. Go look up some more quotes. Lol I think you were stuffed in one too many lockers as a kid.

This guy can't be for real. He's just getting off on messing with everyone's head.
But.... If he really is crazy, we will someday read about his son plunging a participation trophy threw his chest!!!

Sure, that's it, a beast, right, on the B team. But did the Team win? I suspect they did not or you would have told us the score, but that's ok, they all got a ribbon.

No fall tourney is lame. It's not like they are a new team like last year. They have to be one of the only big clubs not playing this fall.

Amen. I have an older athlete as well and so much changes. Some, not all, top athletes stay at the top while many, many others peak later for many reasons-puberty, maturity, specialization, interest level, etc.

Dude, you didn't play! Are you wearing your HS jersey from that 6-4 season thinking how you should still be playing? Lol.... Loser.

Legacy doing 3 tourneys also

When you coach, the term we is used. Do you get it loser.

Our team won, robot boy. Every kid had fun and played too.

. And you save $1200 w/Express

No intelligent parent would have their kid play football.

Oh but he is...we still love to call him Titans Daddy though

No intelligent person would write such a stupid statement.

Just wait-- you didn't get the email from Expresss telling you what you owe for all those extra tournaments. If it says on the website you get 5 tournaments included in your tuition -- and you play in 10 tournaments-- you are not getting 5 free tournaments. And you don't have to believe me. You'll find out soon enough

Not you. Talking about the stupid football statement.

Fine with me. More than happy to kick in extra for more tourneys. I might end up paying 3k but for 10 tourneys vs the 5 igloo does in the summer.

Whatever you say chief. Ignore the brain injury studies.

You must be in a cave somewhere. Nobody smart allows their kid to play football. Many nfl players agree as do the most respected hospitals

http://espn.go.com/pdf/2015/0128/otlBUfootballstudy.pdf

Food for thought from Trevor Tierney
Princeton All-American Goalie
2x NCAA Champion
2x US National Team Member
FIL Champion
MLL Champion
Assist Co - 2015 NCAA Champion Denver Pioneers



THE "BEST TEAM" MAY NOT BE WHAT IS BEST FOR OUR KIDS

“And why do we fall, Bruce? So we can learn to pick ourselves up.” - Batman Begins

Don’t get me wrong here. I love all of the players, parents and families that I get to work with in sports. I would not want to be doing anything else with my life! But lately, I have been bewildered by a phenomena that seems to be growing in youth athletics. There is a constant search amongst parents and players to be on the “best team” that wins the most games and tournaments. It is no longer enough for our children to play on a local youth or high school team and enjoy the experience of playing sports. Furthermore, it is no longer even enough for our children to play on a good club travel team that plays well together, is competitive with other great teams from around the country and has top-notch coaching. Rather, there is a “grass is greener” mentality amongst parents and young athletes who are on the constant lookout for the absolute greatest team to be a part of.

There are a lot of factors driving all of this. It is partly due to the parent’s misconception that the better their child’s team, the better their chances for recruitment and success down the road (by the way, college coaches do not even know the scores of the high school games that they are scouting—they only notice who is 6’4”, 225 and runs like a gazelle in the Serengeti). I believe that this mentality runs deeper than that though and we have simply lost touch of what sports are all about. You know when you watch the people on a reality show like Honey Boo Boo or Swamp People and you say, “man…those people are nuts!”? Well, I hate to tell you, that is all of us in sports right now! We are those crazy people. And for the past few years, this perception of making sure our children win all the time and at all costs has become utterly mind-boggling. Every single game in sports, one team wins and one team loses. That’s just the way it works. It is completely narcissistic for us to think that we ourselves (or our child) should never lose. What fun would sports be if we knew that we were going to win every time anyway?

Every great athlete and coach that I know has had their fair share of ups and downs. Even though my claim to lacrosse fame is that I won two NCAA National Championships, a MLL Championship and a FIL World Championship with Team USA, I also got my butt kicked a whole lot along the way! My youth teams were disgraceful, my high school team had some serious rough patches, I can’t even count how many goals Syracuse scored on me at Princeton over the years and I was on the only USA team that lost in the World Championships since 1978 for goodness sake! Even Michael Jordan (who I apologize for even mentioning in the same paragraph as my athletic career) admitted in a commercial, “I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed.” The point is, that no matter what an athlete does in their career, they will have some wins and they will have some losses. Trying to control that is not going to change anything. Furthermore, there is actually something about the pursuit of always winning that is detrimental to our children’s development as athletes and as people.

As I have pondered this mindset that we are witnessing in youth sports for the past few years, I knew something was wrong. I just didn’t know how to explain it, other than sounding like a grumpy old curmudgeon. The fact is though, there is scientific evidence that shows that we should actually want our children to lose! Again, as I have written time and again, I am not saying that athletes should not care about trying to win and just act like it does not matter. And I am certainly not an advocate for the “everyone gets a trophy” mentality. Our young athletes should care deeply about trying to win and be their best. And when they go into competition and want nothing more than to win that game, it will be absolutely fantastic for them when they lose! Before you think I have been hit in the head with too many lacrosse balls (which is completely factual), let me explain further.

In the past month, I have been fortunate enough to study under one of our country’s leading researchers on human resilience at Harvard, Dr. Shelly Carson. As soon as I sat in our first lecture, the lightbulb flashed on! I started to realize that when we want our child to play on the most dominant team, we are completely missing the boat on how sports build resilience for young men and women. This is not just me blabbing about it either. There is decades of research being compiled by people much smarter than me (surprising I know) that explains how we all develop resilience and how this leads to overall happiness, well-being and success. And isn’t that what we really want for our children?

I am starting to understand how sports are actually the perfect set up for resilience training as losses are very stressful and a challenging adversity for young athletes to face. From this perspective, you realize that no one is going to die, get seriously injured, get cancer, lose a family member, get dumped by their girlfriend (and if so, good riddance I say), lose their home, get thrown in jail, fail out of school, or face anything truly tragic from losing a game. And while I might be sounding trite here, the sad fact is that all of us will face one or several of these things at some point in our life. Nobody’s existence on this earth is perfect. We all encounter some serious adversity whether we like it or not. With that being the case, don’t we want our kids to learn how to deal with it in a skillful manner?

In the field of psychology, resiliency has been defined by Luthar (2000) as, “the ability to recover from or adjust easily to misfortune or change . . . a positive adaptation within the context of significant adversity,” (as cited in Carson lecture, 2014). So, not only do the skills of resiliency allow people to overcome and recover from tragic experiences in their lives, but resilient people also flourish, grow and experience tremendous well-being and success in their lives. And that is exactly what we want for our children. I will take that over any win, any tournament championship and any trophy. The best aspect of athletics, in my mind, is that it teaches us resiliency, the ability to endure, overcome and find greatness in our lives. As coaches and parents, all we have to do is be positive and supportive of our children no matter if they win or lose. We just have to be there for them as they learn to get back up and keep moving on with their heads held high. That is how our youth can learn to deal with life on life’s terms and develop as strong individuals. What a great gift that is to bring our children and I cannot think of a more powerful way to do it than through athletics!

There are a lot of ways in which resiliency can be taught through sports, which I will go into some more detail down the road. For right now, I will pass along that one of the most effective ways in handling a stressor is utilizing "problem-focused coping", which means taking an active approach towards finding a solution. With just this one psychological skill alone, we can shift our perspective in how we approach athletics. As I tell my players and parents on our Denver Elite lacrosse teams, instead of finding a better team to play on, find a way to make your team better. This is how you can truly learn to win something of lasting value through the sports.

Nope, never have been with Igloo, but the uni's look good.
Peace, love and participation trophies for all.
Love, Ghandi

Sure they did.