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Was he held back or just playing down?

So how was the turnout at legacy tryouts

So how was the turnout at legacy tryouts

Many went to Outlaws, 2019 will be very strong for them this year!

If many did, they were from Smithtown. Very good town team, not so as a travel squad. Have at it.

Legacy lost many players from last year, I'd say close to 15 if not more. Not sure why that wasn't promoted with so many spots available

I think that it is hard for a high profile lax dad when his son is not a stand out player. But holding him back could actually backfire if he still does not stand out. Sad for all involved that it would come to this. What are we doing to these boys? Madness needs to stop. There is far more to their worth than what happens on the lacrosse field!
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When a coach and director reclass his kid wow what does that say ?!?!?!?!

Looks like Legacy will have one 2019 team made up of kids from A that stayed, the best ones returning from the B team, and filled in with a few new ones. Weren't many kids there but definitely some skill. I think it's a good opportunity to play on the top team with excellent coaches, even if it's not the so-called AA! Parents are out of their minds with all the AA, A, B stuff anyway. It's about the coaches and how your son fits in. We'll see how it goes tomorrow. Hope my son makes the team as one of the newcomers.

What does that say? Well, maybe if you were listening to the college coaching staffs at many of the recruiting camps this summer; Jake Reed, Blue Chip, Elite 180, Maverick, Texas 99, etc. Many of them told us that they recommended "reclassiying kids". This is because most of the the other states have been doing this for years. Our kids are at a disadvantage. Maybe you should attend some of these showcases and you would get this info firsthand. I personally heard this and debated the entire summer. It's wasn't the right choice for us, we have other things going on. This parent/coach is not the only one doing it. I think I've heard at least 5-7 parents have done it this year. It must feel good singling out this guy (parent-coach). I think there are a few disgruntled parents from his old team leading the way on this one. I hear them on my sideline bad mouthing him. He is a good guy, my son has trained with him before. He son is a great kid. Shame on you guys for allowing and continuing to ask questions about SPECIFIC families.

What does that say? Well, maybe if you were listening to the college coaching staffs at many of the recruiting camps this summer; Jake Reed, Blue Chip, Elite 180, Maverick, Texas 99, etc. Many of them told us that they recommended "reclassiying kids". This is because most of the the other states have been doing this for years. Our kids are at a disadvantage. Maybe you should attend some of these showcases and you would get this info firsthand. I personally heard this and debated the entire summer. It's wasn't the right choice for us, we have other things going on. This parent/coach is not the only one doing it. I think I've heard at least 5-7 parents have done it this year. It must feel good singling out this guy (parent-coach). I think there are a few disgruntled parents from his old team leading the way on this one. I hear them on my sideline bad mouthing him. He is a good guy, my son has trained with him before. He son is a great kid. Shame on you guys for allowing and continuing to ask questions about SPECIFIC families.

It says you don't believe in your kid. It says you look for a way to cheat to make your kid look better. It says you are a believer in smoke and mirrors. It says that you teach your kid to be a follower and not a leader, if everyone else is doing it, I guess I will to. Even though I know I'm gaining an unfair advantage. Teach your kid to be a man, do their best and work hard, don't take the easy way out. not everyone is destined to be a star on the lacrosse field. And that's ok. Sad that many of these reclass families will need to learn this the hard way!

It says you don't believe in your kid. It says you look for a way to cheat to make your kid look better. It says you are a believer in smoke and mirrors. It says that you teach your kid to be a follower and not a leader, if everyone else is doing it, I guess I will to. Even though I know I'm gaining an unfair advantage. Teach your kid to be a man, do their best and work hard, don't take the easy way out. not everyone is destined to be a star on the lacrosse field. And that's ok. Sad that many of these reclass families will need to learn this the hard way!

I agree that nobody knows what their personal situation is and the coach, his kid, and entire family are wonderful people and shame on those who are doing the bashing !!! Just for the record the kid is small BUT he is still a damn good ball player !!

Kids do not get "left back" for academic reasons. That is a laughable excuse for promoting an athletic holdback! Bottom line is that the advocates for the growth of the game of lacrosse should not be promoting the holding back of kids. It is just wrong. It is elitist, as not everyone is not in the position to do it. Make all the excuses you want, but this has never been about an individual kid, most of them are great people! It is about the parents, putting their children into unnatural situations, which put unnecessary pressure on them. Let them be, they will wind up where they belong. Instead of a holdback on a team, where he is not even good enough to start, where all the parents are talking. I would never do that to my kid, but I guess to each their own!

Yes, they are talking because they are not happy that someone just took their kids spot on the 2020 team.

Went to 91 tryouts this weekend. My son I thought played well but was placed on the back fields for two days. Watched the kids playing on the front field and I realized how good the talent they had there. the kids played at another level. Just trying to figure out if the Stampede would be an option or is that team all political like many others. I saw them play in a few tournaments and it looked like they could use some help to improve and compete or if they would be content with the same kids. any insight is appreciated. Don't even know if my son will be offered a spot yet

Stay away from stampede! Friend of mine left the program we were with for stampede last year and it was a disaster and he came back. 3rd team is never a good experience.

The stampede team happened to be very good at 2019 (the black team), last year they played up in A and did well in a few tournaments but not all. They are a B+ team. They also happened to have had a gold team at 2019 because they didn't want to cut any kids.. That team looked like a disaster, the parents thought their kids were better than they were. I think 91 realized its not worth trying to have 4 teams and are only having 3 this year.

Who are the coaches for stampede?

lets all be honest, they were put in A tournaments to promote that they have A teams. They didn't do well in most tournaments and took beating at several of them. I don't know why parents would subject themselves to this so the program can sell parents on this being an A team. I know most of their games were not close and it is a shame that they had to go into tournaments and be embarrassed. there is nothing wrong with putting them in solid B tournaments and have the kids play competitive games. I guess when you run a business perception is everything and reality is nothing.

I think if the Stampede add some kids from the tryouts the last few days .They have a chance to be a little more competitive in B tournaments. But you would have to take the A kids that they cut from yesterday's tryouts and ask them to get to play . Need to change at least 6 kids off the team based on last years playing

How many turned out for 2019/2018 Legacy tryouts, anyone there ?

Haha, that's funny. Someone is going to be very disappointed!

Kids do not get "left back" for academic reasons. That is a laughable excuse for promoting an athletic holdback! Bottom line is that the advocates for the growth of the game of lacrosse should not be promoting the holding back of kids. It is just wrong. It is elitist, as not everyone is not in the position to do it. Make all the excuses you want, but this has never been about an individual kid, most of them are great people! It is about the parents, putting their children into unnatural situations, which put unnecessary pressure on them. Let them be, they will wind up where they belong. Instead of a holdback on a team, where he is not even good enough to start, where all the parents are talking. I would never do that to my kid, but I guess to each their own!

In order for Stampede to compete they need to drop some of these kids and add others to be competitive. Just can't get better with what we had last year. Just being honest

lets all be honest, they were put in A tournaments to promote that they have A teams. They didn't do well in most tournaments and took beating at several of them. I don't know why parents would subject themselves to this so the program can sell parents on this being an A team. I know most of their games were not close and it is a shame that they had to go into tournaments and be embarrassed. there is nothing wrong with putting them in solid B tournaments and have the kids play competitive games. I guess when you run a business perception is everything and reality is nothing.

I think the coaches are listed on the website, my kids 2021 team is coached by college players (NYIT and Adelphi) and pretty sure most of the teams except for 2018 are coached by NYIT college players.

How many turned out for 2019/2018 Legacy tryouts, anyone there ?