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Where they 2 girls who got moved off of TG black after tryouts this year?

Legacy is not better than TG at any level. People who leave TG purple are leaving because they cannot make TG black. Simple truth. People who leave are mad that they cannot make the TG black team. Any organization will let B team players leave if they think they can make another organization's A team.

It is no different in girls' lacrosse than many professional sports. When backup players leave to become starters they rarely remain starters because their weaknesses get exposed. Some develop to become superstars, but some remain career backups. Nothing wrong with that as long as you are playing the game you love. Problem is the parents don't see it. This is the age where it gets harder to improve and take spots from other top level players.

Random rant much... I think they were asking about TG Black not purple. You sound very angry for no reason. Must have just clicked accept on that acceptance email. Now that you got that off your chest, Do you feel better?

Legacy is not better than TG at any level. People who leave TG purple are leaving because they cannot make TG black. Simple truth. People who leave are mad that they cannot make the TG black team. Any organization will let B team players leave if they think they can make another organization's A team.

It is no different in girls' lacrosse than many professional sports. When backup players leave to become starters they rarely remain starters because their weaknesses get exposed. Some develop to become superstars, but some remain career backups. Nothing wrong with that as long as you are playing the game you love. Problem is the parents don't see it. This is the age where it gets harder to improve and take spots from other top level players.

Of the 2 girls who went to Legecy from the TG black team, did those 2 girls also make the black team again this year? Or were they moved off of Black to purple and decided to go to legacy?

How do you explain the best 2020 girl on the island leaving TG black for YJ, when she was already on the best team?

How do you explain the best 2020 girl on the island leaving TG black for YJ, when she was already on the best team?

So I guess everyone should run to Yellow Jackets then. If all the best girls are going there, their A team will soon have 40 girls on the roster. How much better can YJ get and still have all the girls play. I assume girls on the bottom of the roster will leave YJ and go somewhere else too, right? Unless YJ B and C teams are attractive teams to play on. Just makes sense to me if people are added, others have to be moved.

In case you forgot legacy teal beat tg purple this summer .. So don't go ranting how tg is better than legacy at any level ...

This is a girl that doesn't want to be on the best team, which would raise her level of play, she doesn't want the competition. Competition is what gives the teams their edge. You have to earn your spot on one of the top teams.

How can you know your full potential and level of play if your club team avoids all the top teams? I'm guessing it's safer to stay rather than have to go to other clubs and actually have a real tryout and have people see your real potential/talent outside of the purple uniform, It will be pretty interesting to see if one A level player can help save this team this upcoming year. I think she will also see the light and leave and that would be The final nail in the coffin for TG. Don't see who's left staying around while they're team is being laughed at as the rise and fall of the once mighty TG

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6 years ago when TG started, it was one of the only other legit options to YJ. Shannon and Bill didn't have to work hard to field good/great teams. Now the momentum has swung the other way either back to YJ or to the new kid in town Legacy. The club can be "saved" but it will take some effort. In my opinion it will depend on the coaches, they have to be involved. The extra 10 practices are a good start. Coaches need to be at practices with their teams and at tournaments with their teams.
My experience, was practices were run by one group of coaches and tournaments by another coach often without much knowledge of the team she was coaching that weekend. Moving forward that needs to change.

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6 years ago when TG started, it was one of the only other legit options to YJ. Shannon and Bill didn't have to work hard to field good/great teams. Now the momentum has swung the other way either back to YJ or to the new kid in town Legacy. The club can be "saved" but it will take some effort. In my opinion it will depend on the coaches, they have to be involved. The extra 10 practices are a good start. Coaches need to be at practices with their teams and at tournaments with their teams.
My experience, was practices were run by one group of coaches and tournaments by another coach often without much knowledge of the team she was coaching that weekend. Moving forward that needs to change.

2014/2015 2015/2016
TG 2020 purple
About 8 or so girls left TG purple for Legacy 2014/2015 This year 2015/2016 the other half left. I can definately tell you that some deserved it, some not ,but that is not the reason most left.
Almost 20 girls left 2020 purple, why? Because they didn't make Black? Come on.... Let's be honest here.
Look, some girls left because of politics ,yes it's true and it's everywhere, but simply put ....purple was lacking in Coaching.

Did any of the girls that left Purple make Blue or are they playing on Teal?

If your the A team on a B level club, you are basically still a B level team. What I see going on here is that TG's came on the scene several years back, made a small argument to be a A level club but has since fallen well short of that. Now you have clubs like Legacy, Elevate, Liberty etc. Right on par now with TGs. Its a battle for B club supremacy. None of these clubs are A clubs.

If your the A team on a B level club, you are basically still a B level team. What I see going on here is that TG's came on the scene several years back, made a small argument to be a A level club but has since fallen well short of that. Now you have clubs like Legacy, Elevate, Liberty etc. Right on par now with TGs. Its a battle for B club supremacy. None of these clubs are A clubs.

It appears the lack of coaching at TG is catching up to them at all age groups. As parents look for a better option for their daughters.

hello troll......over here now.....with your vast knowledge....please inform us of the better options because we cant wait to hear this

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It appears the lack of coaching at TG is catching up to them at all age groups. As parents look for a better option for their daughters.

How good can these "other clubs" be if they have roster spots open for TG girls? If these superstar TG girls are leaving for other A teams than that to me says that TG had some really good talent last year . . . and have not been on the decline for years like many have posted.

How good can these "other clubs" be if they have roster spots open for TG girls? If these superstar TG girls are leaving for other A teams than that to me says that TG had some really good talent last year . . . and have not been on the decline for years like many have posted.

Player development and motivation has stalled at TG. Lack of quality coaching and consistent coaching. While some of the college girls do a nice job with the players, their time together is short and the others are on their phones texting and even worse some of the coaches don't get along (2021 black coaches). SS only showed any interest in the 2020 black team, and only sits under her tent during camps collecting checks before the camp starts, then sits on her phone all day rather that walk around to oversee the stations during those camps, she should be more involved and hands on. All the clubs are a money grab in many ways, but TG is starting to become arrogant and forgetting that the consumer has other options. Some of those options used to be part of their club and splintered away because they saw/heard the dissatisfaction of parents and kids first hand and told the family, the family didn't want to listen.

Also the kids are not happy in the organization because they are not getting better at a rate consistent with their peers at other clubs, and have not been able to compete with top clubs. Better players are not being promoted to top teams leading to more frustration. It tells you something when purple girls can go to other clubs and make their top teams. Especially when those teams are as good as your own top team and getting better. It tells you that your politics is holding some of your talented girls down and hurting your overall ability to compete by not having the top girls on the top team.

Player development and motivation has stalled at TG. Lack of quality coaching and consistent coaching. While some of the college girls do a nice job with the players, their time together is short and the others are on their phones texting and even worse some of the coaches don't get along (2021 black coaches). SS only showed any interest in the 2020 black team, and only sits under her tent during camps collecting checks before the camp starts, then sits on her phone all day rather that walk around to oversee the stations during those camps, she should be more involved and hands on. All the clubs are a money grab in many ways, but TG is starting to become arrogant and forgetting that the consumer has other options. Some of those options used to be part of their club and splintered away because they saw/heard the dissatisfaction of parents and kids first hand and told the family, the family didn't want to listen.

Also the kids are not happy in the organization because they are not getting better at a rate consistent with their peers at other clubs, and have not been able to compete with top clubs. Better players are not being promoted to top teams leading to more frustration. It tells you something when purple girls can go to other clubs and make their top teams. Especially when those teams are as good as your own top team and getting better. It tells you that your politics is holding some of your talented girls down and hurting your overall ability to compete by not having the top girls on the top team.

I'm only going to address your statements about 2021 black, my daughter plays on that team. You are a liar, a fake, a phony and a fraud! Everything you said about the coaches is not true! My daughters experience at the camps is the polar opposite of your description as well, SS spent a [lacrosse] of a lot of time at stations and with the girls!
I believe you are here to promote your new girls program, I suggest you express what your program has done or will do rather then negative sell others. If all you can do is negative sell, them it is quite obvious your program has nothing!