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No. He will be Fourth of July shopping for the Yellow Jackets senior brass ... Victoria's Secret will be unveiling their new Fall 2012 Lacrosse outfits.

Cage Sage, you spoiled my surprise, but doesn't Carol Rose look great in the new Yellow Jackets uniform?

Thank god her lacrosse knowledge is much better than your attempt at humor-at least post something that would make us chuckle

Post on liberty thread not here who cares

Ok and the pic above is appropriate?

how come liberty not at national draw?

No Sky Walkers , T3, T.L.C., Loonys, Green Turtles, S.J.S, NEMS , or Heros. The firs 2 days are over and look at the scores 20-0, 22-1. Look at the Risers division , 2 M&D teams playing each other for championship.Weak tourney that teams go to to pad there web pages with tales of victory. None of the better clubs from off long Island are there except for M&D, who's probably going to win if the Jackets should fall. Good luck to your girls though.

All the girls on CR's 2018 team now know where they stand, for half the team it's on they sideline watching! Is beating some cross island rival so important to her that she won't sub a single player? These girls are in the 6th grade and it was just a pool play game. Why ruin the confidence of half the team by making them watch. This sends a horrible message to the girls. Drop your own personal battle and let "all" the girls play.

All the girls on CR's 2018 team now know where they stand, for half the team it's on they sideline watching! Is beating some cross island rival so important to her that she won't sub a single player? These girls are in the 6th grade and it was just a pool play game. Why ruin the confidence of half the team by making them watch. This sends a horrible message to the girls. Drop your own personal battle and let "all" the girls play.

M&D is from Long Island????? NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry but wrong. T3 was there but none of their teams made it out of their division and into the playoffs. Same with CClax, none of their teams even made it to the playoffs. M&D16 played 17 in the championship because the playoff bracket was unbalanced with the best games being early on one side of the bracket: M&D16-YJBlue defo (4-2) and M&D16-Suffolk county (2-1).

Ahhhh....chief, we did win it. And i still think the playoffs were unbalanced. As a serious question what tournament would you say is a good one then?

Ahhhh....chief, we did win it. And i still think the playoffs were unbalanced. As a serious question what tournament would you say is a good one then?

People talk often about sportsmanship and respecting the game. Let's look at this weekend.

EXAMPLE #1 : After the 2-2 draw Friday against Top Guns Black, did you think that this would play out any other way? No substitutions, half the bench not used, but that was only the start.

EXAMPLE #2 : After starting Saturday with a 15-0 drubbing of Spirit Select (need to run it up for goal differential of course) and a 9-2 win over Massachusetts, The 2018 Blue won the division on a tie-breaker. Seriously? 15-0?

EXAMPLE #3 : What bothers me is that Rose's ruthless approach to other teams (either that they are afraid to play us or we will kick their asses) is bad enough at the older age groups, but this was a 2018 age group with the same win at all cost attitude. We heard it all again this weekend.

EXAMPLE #4 : Does it stop there? Of course not. The YJ 2018 Blue hang a 10-0 quarterfinal score on ... their own club mates from the YJ 2019 Gold (Costa) group. Seriously? You do this to your own club teams?

Look, certainly three of the best teams did make it to the semifinals with M&D Black, YJ Blue, and Top Guns Black. You have to decide for yourself exactly what type of example was set. Save me the Carol Rose defender choir this time. Talk about each one of these four examples. Defend them. Don't deflect the conversation - talk about these four specific points.

I'll give it a shot in regards to your four points:

1. She needed to win the game to ensure her team made the playoffs.
2. The first Tie breaker is head to head competition. Second tie breaker is goals against. Third tie breaker was goals for. This was an issue at some of the IWCLA events and they have removed goals for from the tiebreaker category. Some events still use it with a maximum goal differential of 5. This was not the case at National Draw and they should consider changing the rules. I wish I had the time to look at the tournament as a whole and see how many 15 goal differential games there were. It is a joke.
3. Agreed. Winning is the most important thing to her.
4. I if was apparent on the younger team I would not be too happy. This has happened at other ages as well and it has ben an internal issue. How do you do that to your own club?

Yikes! I was talking about the Risers! My daughter plays for M&D. Came here to figure out why YJ now have two blue teams. Thought I would add an unbiased impression of our experience at the national draw ( including the unbalanced risers playoffs). See you at some of those tournaments you mention. Im guessing you're the guy with the friendly smile?

So CR should play to loose and play everyone evenly. Now that's really funny. I did not see Syracuse or northwestern clear their bench in their quest. Why should she?

So CR should play to loose and play everyone evenly. Now that's really funny. I did not see Syracuse or northwestern clear their bench in their quest. Why should she?

i was under the impression the 16 defo team was solid through and through. so M&D was beatable if defo played certain people only? M&D swept the whole tournament except for varsity. I was at the game, it looked like the one group was out there most of the game

Did the Yellow Jackets over-sub the other two times 2016 Black beat them?

C'mon...the Yellow Jackets "went home early" not because they oversubbed, but because two outstanding teams played each other in the first round and one of them won by two goals.

These teams have played twice before with similar results.

Anyway, Defo is an excellent team...look forward to playing them again. I am sure M&D will continue to sub their 22 players in all of the games, as they always do.

BOTC thinks that it is a very sad defense and position to compare what is effectively a sixth grade tournament with an NCAA program.

In college, there is a natural cycle of players - every four years if academic progress is managed. This year's freshman bench-rider is a potential senior year starter in the college game. Such is not the case with the club game since the group remains together.

So, you can see that Syracuse and Northwestern build their team concepts around a rotation of players through their programs. That does not happen with the youth club environment which is why team building for a club and team building at the college level are very different exercises.

Here's the real question in our minds : did the team earn a tie or not?