BOTC - US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums MID-ATLANTIC LACROSSE MARYLAND FORUM Crabs Lacrosse / Baltimore Lacrosse Club

Keep rationalizing why your son is being harmed. Meanwhile, our kids are going to the college they want to go to. LOL.

UCYFL= Hazard county. Daisy Duke has a cross?

That's the problem with the people of privilege. I prefer to do the right thing and teach my kids that life is not always fair and to work harder to overcome those obstacles. What life lesson is little Johnny Holdback learning? What is going to happen in the real world when mommy and daddy can no longer bail him out?

Mine will get there without having to play younger kids, nor an extra 50 grand at prep school. They got to stay and play with the kids they started with and not the younger group. They also did not get laughed at behind their back and snickered at when they scored against a younger goalie. Only the holdback parents are proud of those moments. My kid will see yours at the same school, but they will have more grit- they earned their way and are honorable. Look at it anyway you want- but there are plenty of kids that will be rostered with your son and they did not need to be left back to get that position..

I get it. Your son is one of the holdbacks who can't compete in his own age group. Who's rationalizing? LOL

And I mean no disrespect for all the excellent club kids who can compete in their own age groups. Crabs is a very good club, to be feared. Lacrosse is a great sport.

Is 9/1 of the child's graduation year (9/1/01 for a 2020 grad) the agreed upon cutoff date?

1) This is a lacrosse forum. 2) There is no money and full scholarships in lacrosse. Financially it makes much more sense in those sports. 100% scholarships in football and basketball. Potential million dollar contracts to the rare few that can get to that professional level in football, basketball or baseball. Poor kid can dream of a free education and possibly becoming a wealthy athlete. Not happening in lacrosse. [lacrosse], the poor kids cannot even play lacrosse. How many of these holdback kids would be competing with the masses if it ever came to that. Maybe Trump can build a wall around your lacrosse campuses.

If you're not playing down....you're playing up.

Does Daisy Duke have a cross? Hello..... is this mike on!!??

Big difference between making a living and protecting your family and you playing your child down on a sports team at the detriment of other children just so your child who can not cut it with kids his own age looks good. Pathetic and not even worth discussing with folks who can not see the distinction.

That is because those sports have age verification including often times state ids that must be shown if playing at an elite level. Guess you would not know that if your kid can only stand out playing younger kids in an unregulated sport.

Well said. Unfortunately, too many people in this country who don't give a f--k how their actions impact others, which is really the essence of this debate.

There is no agreed upon cutoff date, Just be in your grade. That is the problem..You can be held back 10 times in 5th grade and still play for 5th grade team every year.

Funny thing is... holdbacks are so commonplace now for the top level teams that it has become "normalized". These guys all play each other. So the best kids really are the best kids... 'cause the holdbacks compete against the holdbacks. Crazy and not changing... suck it up or go play baseball.

Agree. Example AA is really 2019/2018 at the 2020 grade level.

That isn't very funny to me. I have a 13 year old who turns 14 this week and also started high school this week. He isn't young for his grade. He is on age for his grade. He's played club lacrosse for the last two years with and against kids at least a year and often more than 2 years older than he is. So, he should just go play baseball because the crap you are selling is "normalized"?

This is exactly why lacrosse stopped growing and is about to go backwards again to be an exclusive white privileged kid sport.

Not true - the majority of 2020 teams are truly 2020 teams. It is limited to a subset of the private school holdbacks- private schools are the only institutions that allow this practice to happen without any educational purpose. The MAJORITY of families still do the right thing - please stop trying to justify holdbacks by saying everyone does it. Oldest excuse in the book and in this case, simply not true.

Very mature and a response based on your limited and self centered viewpoint. Not ALL of the elite teams are made up of holdbacks - your Johnny is still trying to look better by playing younger kids despite how you try to spin it.

Absolutely true.

Mid Maryland Football League also has strict rules with state ids and photos.

Maybe in some states , but not all. If the AA teams are all that old then why waste your kids year and let them all play grade appropriate because they would play these kids anyway. Playing down shows a weakness, don't exploit your kid by holding them back. If they have talent they don't need to play down, give them some more credit and tell them they are good enough to do it without dropping them down a level. It can't be fun sitting through a whole academic year of the same curriculum because your coach or parents don't think you are good enough to play with your current team or friends. Your kid might be on agreement verbally but truthfully, no 13 yr old should ever be allowed to do so or be agreeing to something as such. I'm surprised no one had brought it up as negligent parenting if the kid is a solid student. Many kids on D1 teams will be there without playing down, so why not tell your kid- you can do this too. A little benefit of the doubt goes a longer way for confidence and that translates into better play on the field. Doubting your kid is the worst thing you can do- than acting on it seals the deal.

Since they are using steriods, we should too!

Actually... my Johnny is one of the youngest on-age players on his team ... my point is the sport committed to grade-based club teams several years ago and a disgruntled mass of helicopter parents aren't going to change the course. The train has left the station. Bitching about it is a complete waste of time... entertaining as [lacrosse] ... but a complete waste of time.

The real reason USL is a joke it that they advocate a two year system (U13, U11, U9). This makes it impossible to have a consistent club team every year, because 1/2 the team gets put into a different division every year. Also - it encourages the thing everyone in this forum is griping so much about - kids 1 year old playing with kids 1 year younger. No one is happy with USL.

I suppose it's all relative - although "much money" or "entitled rich kids" and "Baltimore" or "Baltimore county" are not really two phrases I think most people would associate, compared to the rest of the lacrosse playing world. I could see if you were classifying Team 91 up in Melville, or some Northern VA teams would of Loudoun or Fairfax counties (the two highest income counties in the US), but not Baltimore. I mean, can you really call a place high-end that can proudly take credit for Natty Bo? LOL

You're right. Kevin Plank should move out of Baltimore County and take his kids out of private school. It is no place for a billionaire to live.

With all of the money I pay in Club Lax fees I can barely afford Natty BO LOL

That's right - I didn't realize Kevin Plank had his boys playing for the Breakers? LOL - Really? Let's not be silly...

No, but they do go to the school where breakers practices. And he along with Adam Jones live across the street from the school. But you're right. There's no money in Baltimore County. Go watch another episode of The Wire.

Breakers is from Baltimore county, have you BEEN there? Much money in the area, they just don't invest it in their IROC or gold chains.
[/quote]

I suppose it's all relative - although "much money" or "entitled rich kids" and "Baltimore" or "Baltimore county" are not really two phrases I think most people would associate, compared to the rest of the lacrosse playing world. I could see if you were classifying Team 91 up in Melville, or some Northern VA teams would of Loudoun or Fairfax counties (the two highest income counties in the US), but not Baltimore. I mean, can you really call a place high-end that can proudly take credit for Natty Bo? LOL[/quote]

You're right. Kevin Plank should move out of Baltimore County and take his kids out of private school. It is no place for a billionaire to live.[/quote]

That's right - I didn't realize Kevin Plank had his boys playing for the Breakers? LOL - Really? Let's not be silly...[/quote]

No, but they do go to the school where breakers practices. And he along with Adam Jones live across the street from the school. But you're right. There's no money in Baltimore County. Go watch another episode of The Wire. [/quote]

Good point - the Wire is totally ficticious, and Baltimore doesn't have the 2nd highest homicide rate in the US. It definitely makes complete sense that just because one wealthy guy as the Under Armour founder decided to live in Baltimore County, and he lives across from St. Paul's, and the Breakers practice there, everyone is rich that plays for the Breakers. Hard to believe everyone couldn't follow that logic - it's so sensible! Especially considering the median household income there is $63K, and the average home value is $216K - where do they even store all that money? LOL

I suppose it's all relative - although "much money" or "entitled rich kids" and "Baltimore" or "Baltimore county" are not really two phrases I think most people would associate, compared to the rest of the lacrosse playing world. I could see if you were classifying Team 91 up in Melville, or some Northern VA teams would of Loudoun or Fairfax counties (the two highest income counties in the US), but not Baltimore. I mean, can you really call a place high-end that can proudly take credit for Natty Bo? LOL[/quote]

You're right. Kevin Plank should move out of Baltimore County and take his kids out of private school. It is no place for a billionaire to live.[/quote]

That's right - I didn't realize Kevin Plank had his boys playing for the Breakers? LOL - Really? Let's not be silly...[/quote]

No, but they do go to the school where breakers practices. And he along with Adam Jones live across the street from the school. But you're right. There's no money in Baltimore County. Go watch another episode of The Wire. [/quote]

you guys are really arguing of the comparative wealth of lax communities?

I suppose it's all relative - although "much money" or "entitled rich kids" and "Baltimore" or "Baltimore county" are not really two phrases I think most people would associate, compared to the rest of the lacrosse playing world. I could see if you were classifying Team 91 up in Melville, or some Northern VA teams would of Loudoun or Fairfax counties (the two highest income counties in the US), but not Baltimore. I mean, can you really call a place high-end that can proudly take credit for Natty Bo? LOL[/quote]

You're right. Kevin Plank should move out of Baltimore County and take his kids out of private school. It is no place for a billionaire to live.[/quote]

That's right - I didn't realize Kevin Plank had his boys playing for the Breakers? LOL - Really? Let's not be silly...[/quote]

No, but they do go to the school where breakers practices. And he along with Adam Jones live across the street from the school. But you're right. There's no money in Baltimore County. Go watch another episode of The Wire. [/quote]

Good point - the Wire is totally ficticious, and Baltimore doesn't have the 2nd highest homicide rate in the US. It definitely makes complete sense that just because one wealthy guy as the Under Armour founder decided to live in Baltimore County, and he lives across from St. Paul's, and the Breakers practice there, everyone is rich that plays for the Breakers. Hard to believe everyone couldn't follow that logic - it's so sensible! Especially considering the median household income there is $63K, and the average home value is $216K - where do they even store all that money? LOL[/quote]

Wow - That must mean that the MadLax kids are even bigger rich kids cause they practice in McLean and Jacqueline Mars lives there, she makes Plank look like he's on welfare

You're right. Kevin Plank should move out of Baltimore County and take his kids out of private school. It is no place for a billionaire to live.[/quote]

That's right - I didn't realize Kevin Plank had his boys playing for the Breakers? LOL - Really? Let's not be silly...[/quote]

No, but they do go to the school where breakers practices. And he along with Adam Jones live across the street from the school. But you're right. There's no money in Baltimore County. Go watch another episode of The Wire. [/quote]

you guys are really arguing of the comparative wealth of lax communities? [/quote]
slow news day

Ok - some news: Crabs have grand total of 1 player named a 5* in 2016 rankings, 0(Zero) 5* 2017's, and 0(Zero) top 10 2018's. Even with most of their kids repeating a grade, only 1 highly ranked player in 3 classes.

I'm sure the 19 2016 commits, the 13 2017 commits and the 7 2018 commits are really concerned with how many stars they have on their profile. Considering 7 of them are committed to Hopkins and there are several other to UVA, UNC, UMD, etc I'm pretty sure they will be just fine.

Who cares about their commits. Everyone knows you can "commit" anywhere if daddy/mommy are gonna pay your way through school. The crabs little daddies are paying the freight so Biff can say he is committed.

Most parents would be fairly shocked to know that in a lot of instances getting committed to a program happens when a decent player offers to go for no consideration. There is a tremendous demand now from families who will pay full freight and the coaches are in a great position to manipulate that.

Wow, giving credence to the opinion of a subsidized blogger regarding 5 star high school players.... Amazing how 5 Tenacious Turtles made 5 star considering who funds the blogger,...... not really. All of the named players are deserving, as are others who did not get named.

Well, if college lacrosse programs were stocks I'd short all of the ones that placed any value at all in what Ty Xander's writes. The list has good players, but in reality he has some rings to kiss. The Turtles were amazing as 8th graders, but that has lapsed as other programs have developed their teams and players. I don't think the Turtles lost a single game in middle school. This past summer they lost several. If that guy sat and watched as much lacrosse in California, his list could easily be as dominated with west coast players. Denver is decent proof that these recruit rankings aren't a roadmap for success

My son is a 2018 that is comitted to a Div1 school-so what
He made the watch list-so what.

I told him to keep working hard-Thats what...

people.. get back to work