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Have all the emails been sent out ?

What about if you went to second tryout to move up to select. Have they gone out.

Check spam

Nothing in spam , they should know who should be on 2018 select & black , borderline player they want another look at , should be asked to come back for the second tryout , I would imagine .

did that. Tried calling and get voicemail.

Did anyone else notice the change in the coaching line up for the 5th 2023? Originally Travis and another coach were coaching Select and Matt Lauria & Bobby Rooney were coaching Black. Why was ML moved? I registered my kid with the knowledge that ML would be the head coach of Black NOT Rooney. The Black team now has Rooney, & Pat Brennan. There is very little lax info in Rooney's bio, including the year he was in college, that makes me nervous as I think of the older out of touch dad coach (not worth $2,400.00). Pat Brennan bio is not even listed, what are his credentials? The chatter about PB is that he is listed in name only and not be present with coaching the B team. Does anyone know any info?

Rooney coached the 2020's for years and is a great coach. You will get more practices and more tourneys with him IF the parents are onboard and kids are available.

Never saw ML as head coach black. He was always listed as coach of select. Brennan clearly stated that he was the coach of the black at tryouts.

Great coaches normally stay with the same teams year after year. Generally, teams with coaching changes had some sort of problem. I am intentionally speaking very generically. You can infer whatever you wish.

By the way of you comment of out of touch dad Coach Rooney doesn't kids.... He coached my son on 2020 and my son loved being on the team.... He gets them prepared for every game to give them the true chance to win. I personally was happy with him as well as glad that he is also still part of coaching staff with 2020 select...

All I can say is that you need to relax. I am an Outlaw parent and what I can tell you is PB will put the right coaches in the right places. The organization puts out a good product year after year and that's why you came. You didn't come because of a specific coach.

Just let everyone do their job and enjoy your experience being an outlaw and don't worry who is coaching and who isn't.

If you look at coaching staffs of the select teams they are headlined by top notch Varsity coaches. Especially though the recruiting ages

Totally agree from what I saw last season. PB needed to step down to B team.

Another year of bait and switch. It's getting old PB.

I also saw Lauria listed with black just a few weeks ago!

Matt Lauria was always coaching the 2023 Select as the defensive coach. Kevin Travis will be coaching the offense. Pat Brennan has coached the top team in the past and will help out.

Pat Brennan and Bobby Rooney will coach the Black team- just like it was originally released.

I am an out laws parent who's on the fence about returning. Speaking from experience if Pat Brennan says he is going to be coaching the B...oooops Black team you can bet that he will not be there for majority of the season. Why would Select need 3 HS coaches? Black gets only Rooney?! Just made up my mind!

On page 4 of this thread is the release by outlaws with who is coaching. Give it up already. It was released once and once only.

He's right. Lauria was listed originally as coaching Black 2023

The confusion lies in any name change. Coach Lauria was always coaching the top team (Black last year, Select this year).

Select has 2 HS coaches not 3 as mentioned by poster above. Second team (Black) coaches are Pat Brennan and Bobby Rooney.

All coaches listed on website as well for all ages.

Whew thank god your not coming back - parents like you are what ruin the "team" please dont come back - your son is always welcome.

Will the Outlaws "Black" (Formally Silver) teams be playing in A or B divisions? Thanks.

Each team will be scheduled based on their skill level. Would be unfair to blanket all teams in an organization with the same name under the same division every tournament. Our goal is to have all teams playing at the highest level possible.

Money hungry organizations, self aggrandizing coaches with small skills and large agendas is what ruins teams!

Put the Kool-Aid down dude! People DO go to organizations for specific coaches as much as they avoid organizations due to specific coaches. I do worry! Don't need to waste 2,400.

You are joking right? Having the right coaches is extremely important. Having a coach that actually has practices and shows up to tournaments is of the utmost importance. Organizations are very quick to bait and switch. You sign on and agree to play for them based on one what you are told and then things are different after the first practice. That's deceptive and it happens all the time.

You are absolutely correct!! Coaching is everything. A single coach can either make or break a team, especially one that is arrogant and notorious for being a no show. But hey, if some random, anonymous, stranger says to trust in PB, well than lets all be indoctrinated!

Why is this still left unanswered?

Ask the 2018 Black now called select how the coaching was this past summer. It was nonexistent. Rarely a practice, and no set plays. A complete waste of $2400. Team had talent yet didn't do well because of the poor coaching. Kids didnt go to practice because practices stunk. They also lost so much interest that they didn't show to tournaments. This coaching staff was handpicked by PB. lol

You had same problem with the team called 2018 silver now will be called black. 10-13 kids showing up to practice, 15-17 to tournaments. Coaches didn't care!!!! 15 min before game starts kids still sitting around not warming up!!

This was answered on previous pages. All coaching staffs have been posted and can be found on www.lioutlawslax.com as well.

2023 Select- Kevin Travis and Matt Lauria
2023 Black- Pat Brennan and Bobby Rooney

At this age the team normally carries 22. Every team is slightly different.

Its all about coaching. I couldn't agree more. There are coaches and there are coaches. Some coaches, are so overcommitted, they can't be there, or they just go through the motions because they dont wish to be there. Then some coaches go the exra mile, we all know who they are. I don't care if the coach was all american at syracuse or duke, if he has no energy or desire to be there , I dont want him. I don't want the 20 or whatever number the contract says of practices. I want more. The point is I want a coach who wants more. When you have a coach like that, they are not easy to find, but when you do, kids never miss practice or tournaments. Kids want to be there. The energy and effort by a coach like that is what makes a team, a successful team. In my opinion. My son, who is 12 expierienced both types of people. There is no comparison.

Why do people continue to come back to this organization? There are so many others to choose from.

There has been a bit of a exodus by a few players they considered their best at key positions. Don't believe what they will reply with that these players were not good. They were constantly mentioned as the best players on the team. They also went on to very good teams.There were going to be more players leaving to go play with their high school team over the summer but their high school coaches are now directors and they are forced to come back. So because of this they think they were retaining players but they really wanted to leave.

Behavior issues of coaches really bad

White Trash

I love the fact that my son plays for the Outlaws! I've never seen a travel club stir up so many emotions in so many people. This has to be the place to be. Sorry suckers their are just so many spots, better luck next time.

Anyone who thinks their kid has a chance at making their select teams or "A" teams should think again. Those spots are locked up by previous players, kids who were hand picked prior to try outs or kids who play for the high school coaches who are now board members. Yes there may be a couple of exceptions, but the directors know who most of the kids are that they want before try outs start.

Or the place people had the most issues. Buyers beware!!!!!

The only emotion being stirred up here is nausea!