BOTC - US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums NORTHEAST LACROSSE BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) Boys 2019-9th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016

Not One player left in middle of summer last season. Lots of talent at try out.

I know for a fact that the outlaws had several of their best players leave the team half way thru the summer. Granted they had a strong team with everyone there, but there was a problem that made the boys leave.

After losing those boys, they were not competitive at all. they will need to upgrade a lot of positions and still add a few strong players to get to where they were at before

All the Catholic School kids..Enjoy

My kid was at the laxachusetts open tryout and one of the club directors told the kids that they have 15 commits on their 2019 class already. This seems ridiculous to me. He also mentioned that their top team in one of the top three teams in the country. Please let me know if any of this is true. Thank you

Come on the best team in 2018 91 Extreme only has 11-12 commits.

[quote=Colin Harrington]My kid was at the laxachusetts open tryout and one of the club directors told the kids that they have 15 commits on their 2019 class already. This seems ridiculous to me. He also mentioned that their top team in one of the top three teams in the country. Please let me know if any of this is true. Thank you

Come on the best team in 2018 91 Extreme only has 11-12 commits.

None of that is true - they will have early commits, yes but not anywhere close to that number, nor the number of early commits the true top programs will have.

They are good - great FO kid, who I heard is moving to the island - but nowhere near top 3. Seen them get smoked by 91 and Madlax and lost more than they won vs top 2019 teams.
Number of holdbacks will rival Maryland teams.

Lots of hype for this team, but did they make any of the tournament finals this summer? I think they lost 3 games at Big4 HHH tournament. Lost at Platinum Cup as well.

Why such posturing against Laxachusetts? Okay someone said they had a few commits. Someone questioned it. Not sure if that someone knows 2019 well. It is a good team I am quite sure they have boys in talks with schools as many of the other top 10 in the country have.

Who cares if, where, they won; were they competitive at the tournaments with the toughest competition. That is what matters from now on. It is not a race to get committed people although it may feel like a game at times.

I hope you got to say that. How long till you post your own response to your own comment? Sounds like something 91 would do.....

Serious question, and not from a jealous parent, just a spectator on this board. I have a 2020 kid. At what point are these coaches going to be shown the door for these extremes of public commits of kids who have not started high school? The initial big three for ER were Hopkins, UVA and UNC in no particular order to me. All of those are pretty strident academic schools that are hard for common applicants to get in. At what point do admissions administrators say bugger off to the coaches out of not much more than principal (or worse spite)? I'd also be concerned that an Ivy program doing this before any grades are in the transcript for 9th graders. Seems like a wild projection, and admissions at those schools may feel they need to curb it by sending a message. Getting a lacrosse offer is great, but getting screwed by admissions would be a debacle for all ears down the road.

You do understand that all an early commit is a handshake. If the student doesn't maintain their half of the bargain no admission to said school. The other thing is many schools look at a students history in school, parents, upbringing and they can somehow determine a kids academic future based on these factors. Historically they are pretty good at it. Ivys use academic index to determine a players future grades. I think with the younger commits you will see more decomitts and or revocation of offers. This is actually occurring often this year's with many 2016 graduating class early commits changing which school they will attend.

Can anyone explain how can all of these current college coaches can be involved with these programs if they aren't supposed to be speaking with players younger than Junior year? Is it because the players are initiating contact by joining the team? Seems that there's an ethical issue to me. Hopefully can clear things up so I understand.

If you think lacrosse club owners and college lacrosse coaches have the brains to extrapolate and impute how a kid's academic credentials are going to go before he starts high school, you're drinking some Kool Aid they mixed, spiked and served to you. The prior poster is correct. These are informal and certainly not binding future commitments. The admissions offices won't have a cry over passing on a recruited athlete who they decline. This used to happen very infrequently when kids were recruited as juniors or seniors only 5 years ago. Now we are seeing it happen a lot. Princeton lost 3 commits, Penn 2 and Yale at least 1 this year to admissions declinations. And there may be more than are widely repeated when kids quietly "de commit" and commit elsewhere...in reality that beards what is really happening, which is admissions says no go. Still go for it to get a coach to support your son or to get a scholarship indication, but at the selective schools it gets complicated when the kid does not have the grades and scores later.

If you think lacrosse club owners and college lacrosse coaches have the brains to extrapolate and impute how a kid's academic credentials are going to go before he starts high school, you're drinking some Kool Aid they mixed, spiked and served to you. The prior poster is correct. These are informal and certainly not binding future commitments. The admissions offices won't have a cry over passing on a recruited athlete who they decline. This used to happen very infrequently when kids were recruited as juniors or seniors only 5 years ago. Now we are seeing it happen a lot. Princeton lost 3 commits, Penn 2 and Yale at least 1 this year to admissions declinations. And there may be more than are widely repeated when kids quietly "de commit" and commit elsewhere...in reality that beards what is really happening, which is admissions says no go. Still go for it to get a coach to support your son or to get a scholarship indication, but at the selective schools it gets complicated when the kid does not have the grades and scores later.

College coaches can reach out to club coached/directors and ask the player/family to contact them. There is no limit on how many times a player can contact a coach, it just can't be the other way around.

You do understand that all an early commit is a handshake. If the student doesn't maintain their half of the bargain no admission to said school. The other thing is many schools look at a students history in school, parents, upbringing and they can somehow determine a kids academic future based on these factors. Historically they are pretty good at it. Ivys use academic index to determine a players future grades. I think with the younger commits you will see more decomitts and or revocation of offers. This is actually occurring often this year's with many 2016 graduating class early commits changing which school they will attend.

You do understand that all an early commit is a handshake. If the student doesn't maintain their half of the bargain no admission to said school. The other thing is many schools look at a students history in school, parents, upbringing and they can somehow determine a kids academic future based on these factors. Historically they are pretty good at it. Ivys use academic index to determine a players future grades. I think with the younger commits you will see more decomitts and or revocation of offers. This is actually occurring often this year's with many 2016 graduating class early commits changing which school they will attend.

Correct it is just a handshake with the coach and if the coach leaves so do does the offer.

The number decommits in the 2016 class is not very large at all. There Approximately 575 2016 D1 commits so far. There have been only about 25 or 26 decommits so far in that year. So the overall percentage of decommitting in the 2016 class so far it's only 4-5% at this time.

The number decommits in the 2016 class is not very large at all. There Approximately 575 2016 D1 commits so far. There have been only about 25 or 26 decommits so far in that year. So the overall percentage of decommitting in the 2016 class so far it's only 4-5% at this time.