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How hard is it going to be recruited if its your first time on an 'A' team ever? and were a nobody before?

If you are big, fast and hustle you will be recruited. Where you get recruited is a different story, the ACC teams are already filled. But get yourself a nice education in the Patriot League, and any one of those teams can win a title. Just see Loyola a couple of years ago.

This early recruiting crap, and the geographical spread will create parity at the next level. Just wait and see. LATE BLOOMERS will be the new trend, five years from now.

It will be great for NCAA lacrosse.

If you are big, fast and hustle you will be recruited. Where you get recruited is a different story, the ACC teams are already filled. But get yourself a nice education in the Patriot League, and any one of those teams can win a title. Just see Loyola a couple of years ago.

This early recruiting crap, and the geographical spread will create parity at the next level. Just wait and see. LATE BLOOMERS will be the new trend, five years from now.

It will be great for NCAA lacrosse.

are you going back to the club that you last played for this summer? If not why not? If so why?

At this stage, better to go to a high end D3 than a low end D1. Don't hope to be "discovered" by a high end D1 - Unless your name is "Bubba" it won't happen and you'll be sorry you didn't respond to the better D3 programs that may have been interested. Respond to everything - the worst is when you have to crawl back to a program you were only lukewarm on because you had a fantasy of somewhere else that didn't work out. It happened to my son and he missed on some other great opportunities that he regrets passing on the first time around. Just as importantly, go see a D3 fall practice, it might open your eyes about the high quality of competition and will surprise you how good these D3 guys are. It's a phenomenal quality of lacrosse and many current D1 hopefuls that are not yet recruited may be surprised that they're not even good enough for many of the high end D3 programs. Many of the high end D3s could easily beat the middle to lower tier D1s.

Yes and no. The decommit trend is just starting to hit its stride and the result is spots and $ opening up, even at big lax schools. UNC just had 3 2016 decommits and this opened up a spot and $ for an under the radar 2017 only a couple of days ago. ND has been hit with multiple commits opting for football over the last few years. Agreed, this is defintely the exception, not the rule, but if your kid is a legit, grew to 6'4" over the summer, type of late bloomer, then spots will be made available even at the big lax schools. But if your kid is playing A for the first time only because the committed kids decided to skip club, and your kid is the last kid on the depth chart, the above advice is spot on. Better to concentrate on the best D3's then worst D1's. You aren't missing out on your shot at an NFL type contract, you need to find the best school to get your son the best paying career. You just need to be honest with yourselves about where your kid sits. Best person to talk to is your HS coach, presumably he has dealt with this a lot and should be able to tell you what level your kid is sitting at.

Why does height always need to be the primary reason for a commit? How about be a stand out player. Recent UNC commit you speak of is 5' 10" not 6'4" He was also never an under the radar player, just maybe jumped too early at the first offer, he has been a stand out for years and knew he could demand better offers than he could as a freshman.

All early recruiting is so stupid, there was a big swing already from top kids in 9th grade, and the top kids in 10th grade the list did not stay the same, and there will be another Big swing next year, my kid was 5'4 in 9th and 5"8 end of 10th.The movie we been watching is at intermission, the ending is very hard to predict at this point.

It's funny how I'm sure every single college coach will agree with you, but there they are at JR Rising Freshmen. The biggest mistakes in recruiting/scouting in any sport usually occur in undervaluing highly skilled but undersized players or overvaluing size. But yet, the cycle continues.

This reminds me of Red Auerbach's old axiom, "you can't teach height".

Opinions on f/o rule changes? My son is happy, even after he claimed to be devastated last year upon hearing this was coming. Funny how all the best kids are still the best with similar winning percentagea (summer ball). Even after all the hateful comments directed at fogos last summer!

yes, we will be playing for the outlaws this coming year. We love them.

I would stay clear of this program respectfully. My son was part of the A program that had 30 something kids last year. The club has admitted its mistake but really hasn't accounted for it in any meaningful way. If they backed up its words with monetary incentives I would give them a second chance. However, to be subjected to another $100 tryout fee and a future payment plan of $2,500.

Hope this helps you in making your decision, I do think most of the non premier teams have this experience. So they are probably not alone, but I do believe if you have a product and you admit it wasn't a good one. Don't ask for more money the next year.

Sounds like maybe your son wasn't asked back. I'm not putting you or him down, but the team you're referring to was extremely strong this year. 12-14 commits so far. The next older team has 20+ Commits. What exactly would you being staying clear of? The high likelihood of your son committing by the time it's all over? As parents, we sometimes have to take a hard look at our son's talent level. Not every kid can play this game at the next level, its really hard to get colleges to recruit you to play in college anywhere... There are so many really good players out there. I have nothing to do with Outlaws, other than being a parent of a kid in the program who's been through the recruiting process a couple of times.

Congrats I'm glad that you and your son are having some success, I agree that "select" team is very good. It was nice of the Outlaws to let that coach have a short roster (lots of playing time), a cheaper fee and play for a couple of coaches that worked really hard. Unfortunately the non-select team had kid coaches, had a roster that was mismanaged, and a higher fee.

So that is my point not that your kid is better then mine, just be careful when you are told your son has made the non select team, don't do it. The product sucks.

BTW: Not all, but some of those kids on that non-select team will be able to play at the next level if they keep working hard.

You would think coaches for the 2nd team in a program would like the challenge of making the kids better. Sorry you had such a bad experience. Good coaching has always been a problem with lacrosse, looks like the 2nd tier of coaching is the next big challenge.

E-mail went out to 2017 black.

Any concerns from parents were taken into account, and changes have been made.

Rob Cornetta (Pace University Assistant) and Patrick Brennan (LI Outlaws Director) will be coaching the 2017 Black (A) team.

Pat Gorman and John Rowan will continue to coach the 2017 Select (AA).

Parents were affirmed there are spots available on both teams, and there are no more expanded rosters.

-Mike Brennan
631-487-6338

Thank you, Mike

This should put some of the issues to rest.

Email from directors son to clear up things. Why not a director.

Could be worst, we played TB 2017 in a showcase, and the coach was screaming kids names out and telling them do get off the field, your playing like crap, now why would anyone go back to that idiot.9vnvas

What Outlaws team has 20+ commits. Im calling BS on that statement. Also the "younger" team with 12-14 commits. Im calling BS on that too. Sorry.......your #'s dont seem to jive with the facts.

Could be worst, we played TB 2017 in a showcase, and the coach was screaming kids names out and telling them do get off the field, your playing like crap, now why would anyone go back to that idiot.9vnvas

That's exactly what you want in front Coaches... Yikes

That joe cat for ya!!!!!