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HoCo is the minor leagues.

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Even in some grades maybe, worse....please!

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HoCo is the minor leagues.


The npyll is run by the hawks owner who changes the rules so his teams can make the playoffs. Talk about a conflict of interest...

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HoCo is the minor leagues.


The npyll is run by the hawks owner who changes the rules so his teams can make the playoffs. Talk about a conflict of interest...


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HoCo is the minor leagues.


The npyll is run by the hawks owner who changes the rules so his teams can make the playoffs. Talk about a conflict of interest...

I am sure there might be some of that. But the NPYLL is the best league to be in for the area. There are some teams that should be playing in it. Like FCA or some others. I would love to see a little larger NPYLL with a double header like format. So you get two games in a sunday. It would not have to be the same teams playing twice.

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Any thoughts on the Diamondbacks merging with API?


Where did API play? Will they go back to npyll?


Api and dbacks are typical B level clubs playing in HoCo. Neither could compete in npyll. Merging two Bs won't make an A


Agreed that API was a typical B level team, but the Diamondback organization is not. The Diamondbacks did play in the NPYLL and won several championships there. The level of competition in the NPYLL is comparable, or even worse, than HOCO at most divisions.

I don't know how many Diamondback teams won NPYLL Championship team, 2018 team was a decent team before it disbanded, they have one decent team and those parents probably can't spell Arden, much less have any idea where it is. Some kind of crossover between the leagues would be a good idea, but will probably never happen. Some of the better HoCo teams would make nice competiton in NPYLL.

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Arden was basically a lot Severna Park parents and kids that created a local club league to compete in the NPYLL. As the kids got older they jump ship for the Hawks, FCA, Crabs, and Breakers. That is why the Arden Diamondbacks 2018 team disbanded. Arden joining forces with API is a good thing and will help with indoor practice facilities in crofton. Arden hopes to compete with the Hawks programs for Anne Arundel County Club league dominance. If Arden and Hawks would ever combine they could be a dominate MD club.

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I hate to be that guy, but I have never in my entire life seen the word dominate used instead of dominant more than I have on this site.

Yeesh people. A team can be dominant. A team can dominate another team. But a team cannot be dominate

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I hate to be that guy, but I have never in my entire life seen the word dominate used instead of dominant more than I have on this site.

Yeesh people. A team can be dominant. A team can dominate another team. But a team cannot be dominate


Especially if that team is dbacks

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I'm not positive, but I thought Mike Bellotte created the Diamondbacks before the NPYLL began play.

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2018 and 2020 won npyll championship

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I'm not positive, but I thought Mike Bellotte created the Diamondbacks before the NPYLL began play.


MIke Bellotte had the SP Bay Raiders or something like that... he was kicked out of severna park & arden and the Diamondbacks were created after that.

Arden has several very good teams including their 2020, 2022, and 2024 teams. Their 2020 team won the NPYLL U11AA championship the last year they were in the NPYLL.

As for NPYLL vs HOCO - there is a Saturday league that was started last year - the MPLL - games played at St. Pauls. Had a handful of NPYLL and HOCO teams... would be the perfect spot for teams who play Sundays in the NPYLL/HOCO to go play against each other on Saturdays in the Spring.

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Thank you professor for enlightening me on my grammatical errors. Now do you have any knowledge to add to the board or are you just going to be typical [lacrosse] bag? Maybe you should go over to another thread and beat the "holdbacks" conversation to death a little more.

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I hate to be that guy, but I have never in my entire life seen the word dominate used instead of dominant more than I have on this site.

Yeesh people. A team can be dominant. A team can dominate another team. But a team cannot be dominate


Nice Professor Roy Hinkley... Now see if you can figure out how to fix a two ft hole.

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I have heard that preliminary discussions have occurred about merging HoCo - NPYLL or at a minimum league cooperation. Perhaps lower status "b" teams play HoCo and higher status "a,aa" play NPYLL. Has anyone else heard anything relating to this?

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Rumor has it that a few of the weaker clubs dropped out of NPYLL and now there are not enough for a league. Everyone is moving to Hoco. Details?

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Rumor has it that a few of the weaker clubs dropped out of NPYLL and now there are not enough for a league. Everyone is moving to Hoco. Details?

I can see this happening. The top clubs will just move to play days in a tournament style during the spring. I always hated driving to play the Hawks for one 1 hour game. I always wished we could play the Hawks and another team the same day. And teams like the Crabs and Madlax would love to take there teams to a play day tournament style in the hot bed areas so they could be seen maybe by some college eyes.

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NPYLL is done and all teams are moving to HOCO. HOCO will have 3 divisions: AA, A, B. Top Teams will enter AA - will be very strong level of competition at AA. Idea of Play Days is a good one, but tough to execute as Teams are not available to play - due to play in their own respective leagues. AA of HOCO will be great option for the most talented MD, VA, DC Clubs. Best of NPYLL are Crabs, Bethesda, Hawks, Madlax - all in HOCO now.

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NPYLL is done and all teams are moving to HOCO. HOCO will have 3 divisions: AA, A, B. Top Teams will enter AA - will be very strong level of competition at AA. Idea of Play Days is a good one, but tough to execute as Teams are not available to play - due to play in their own respective leagues. AA of HOCO will be great option for the most talented MD, VA, DC Clubs. Best of NPYLL are Crabs, Bethesda, Hawks, Madlax - all in HOCO now.


is that official or just anonymous internet speculation?

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HoCo is the minor leagues.


HOCO is the only league now! LOL

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Just rumors. Nothing close to being a done deal.

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100 pct done deal

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Official

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We will see who is the best of the best now. No hiding in different leagues.

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Wow!! That was a quick exit for a league that was darn good.
Why is this ?? HOCO is run by Howard County Recreation and NPYLL was private?

Details anyone??

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Any quick pre season rankings?

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Wow!! That was a quick exit for a league that was darn good.
Why is this ?? HOCO is run by Howard County Recreation and NPYLL was private?

Details anyone??


King crab does not make enough to sustain the league

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Top 3 - No Order:
2020: Crabs, Looneys, Hawks
2021: Bethesda, Hawks, Crabs
2022: Diamondbacks, Hawks, Bethesda
2023: Crabs, Bethesda, Club Blue
2024: Madlax, Bethesda, Team 91 MD
2025: Bethesda, Madlax, Hawks

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Any quick pre season rankings?


MadLax
Everyone else.

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NPYLL is done and all teams are moving to HOCO. HOCO will have 3 divisions: AA, A, B. Top Teams will enter AA - will be very strong level of competition at AA. Idea of Play Days is a good one, but tough to execute as Teams are not available to play - due to play in their own respective leagues. AA of HOCO will be great option for the most talented MD, VA, DC Clubs. Best of NPYLL are Crabs, Bethesda, Hawks, Madlax - all in HOCO now.


Hoco pulls teams from PA sometimes also - Chaos & Low&Away.

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Seems to me this puts ALL the best teams in one league: Crabs (holdbacks), FCA, Hawks, Loonies, Team 91, etc.

This is a good thing IMHO

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Top 3 - No Order:
2020: Crabs, Looneys, Hawks
2021: Bethesda, Hawks, Crabs
2022: Diamondbacks, Hawks, Bethesda
2023: Crabs, Bethesda, Club Blue
2024: Madlax, Bethesda, Team 91 MD
2025: Bethesda, Madlax, Hawks


Written by a Bethesda guy

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Seems to me this puts ALL the best teams in one league: Crabs (holdbacks), FCA, Hawks, Loonies, Team 91, etc.

This is a good thing IMHO

I agree now we will not have to hear the FCA people cry about people not playing them. Or any team for that matter.

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Seems to me this puts ALL the best teams in one league: Crabs (holdbacks), FCA, Hawks, Loonies, Team 91, etc.

This is a good thing IMHO


Add FCA to your holdback list, all their summer 2001 birthdays (who were on 2019) are now on 2020. It's the Christian way!

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Seems to me this puts ALL the best teams in one league: Crabs (holdbacks), FCA, Hawks, Loonies, Team 91, etc.

This is a good thing IMHO


Add FCA to your holdback list, all their summer 2001 birthdays (who were on 2019) are now on 2020. It's the Christian way!

Oh I get it because its FCA. Federation of Christian Athletes

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Seems to me this puts ALL the best teams in one league: Crabs (holdbacks), FCA, Hawks, Loonies, Team 91, etc.

This is a good thing IMHO


Add FCA to your holdback list, all their summer 2001 birthdays (who were on 2019) are now on 2020. It's the Christian way!

Oh I get it because its FCA. Federation of Christian Athletes


It is Fellowship of Christian Athletes..and many 2020 FCA boys played up, yes up on the 2019 team.

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Seems to me this puts ALL the best teams in one league: Crabs (holdbacks), FCA, Hawks, Loonies, Team 91, etc.

This is a good thing IMHO


Add FCA to your holdback list, all their summer 2001 birthdays (who were on 2019) are now on 2020. It's the Christian way!

Oh I get it because its FCA. Federation of Christian Athletes


It is Fellowship of Christian Athletes..and many 2020 FCA boys played up, yes up on the 2019 team.


Many are summer '01 birthday, should be 2019

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Seems to me this puts ALL the best teams in one league: Crabs (holdbacks), FCA, Hawks, Loonies, Team 91, etc.

This is a good thing IMHO


Add FCA to your holdback list, all their summer 2001 birthdays (who were on 2019) are now on 2020. It's the Christian way!

Oh I get it because its FCA. Federation of Christian Athletes


It is Fellowship of Christian Athletes..and many 2020 FCA boys played up, yes up on the 2019 team.


Many are summer '01 birthday, should be 2019


any of the 2020 teams listed on not have summer 2001 birthdays?

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Seems to me this puts ALL the best teams in one league: Crabs (holdbacks), FCA, Hawks, Loonies, Team 91, etc.

This is a good thing IMHO


Add FCA to your holdback list, all their summer 2001 birthdays (who were on 2019) are now on 2020. It's the Christian way!

Oh I get it because its FCA. Federation of Christian Athletes


They may play for the Fellowship of Christian Athletes but their coaches and parents are arrogant asses and their tactics are questionable at best.

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FCA is definitely using the graduation year loophole to abuse the system just like Crabs.

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