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My son is a 2017 and has made is verbal. Knowing what I know now, if I would have known 10 years ago I would have had him reclassify and them do a PG year. Get used to it it's the wave of the future and not going to change

If you dummies were paying attention he was playing on a Ottawa Capitals 2018/2019 mixed team playing older teams (2017s) at the Under Armour Shootout when Starsia made the call on him. Kind of puts a crimp in your whining about the 2019 reclass.

How can any of you defend reclassifying kids for competitive advantage?
Seriously. Then people who shine a light on the practice are attacked...?

Reclassified kids have an obvious advantage, stop deflecting and denying.

He played All Canada Games in the 18 division. Made the 2018 All Star Game. He then played with the Ottawa Capitals 18/19 team that played up a division nd played 2017 teams at UA Shootout. Starsia saw him and liked what he saw. So when Starsia offers him a spot as a 19 at UVA I guess he should have said no? Give your head a shake...every LI [lacrosse] on this site would have done the same thing for their kid. Honestly you clowns need to check the jealousy. Be happy for a kid that has talent and worked hard. Where is the cheating??

I think the poster just explained how he was playing his age and in fact playing up when UVA offered.

But wait...It's only the Canadians who cheat. Team 91 would NEVER stoop to reclassifying...we don't need to...we're from STRONG ISLAND...better fire up the IROC babe...we've been exposed!

You knucklehead just won't quit. The kid is playing against 2019 competition.
The kid almost qualifies as a 2017 by age, he is NOT playing up.
Virginia is giving a 2019 roster spot to an older kid, hurts chances of actual 2019
earning a spot. Reclassifying kids for athletic advantage is pathetic and forces others
to follow suit to remain on an equal playing field. No program promotes this
more than Edge Lacrosse. Their teams play down an age division.
All facts, live with it.

Let me take the other side... If it is not an advantage physically & athletically and maturity to re-class down a grade or two then why would someone do it?

Answer... no one would. The fact is that all (and I mean ALL) the re-class laxers seek out that opportunity to look superior on the athletic fields and in the classroom relative to children that are of appropriate age. They get the attention from a travel team coach because that re-class has the (unearned) advantage of size, speed & maturity and possibly academic success over an age appropriate kid. He looks different on the field of play when competing against kids 1 or 2 years younger.

They get the attention from a college for exactly the same reason... that synthetic appearance of superiority.


Now back to the Edge/VA re-class commit. Would he have been able to get the attention from UVA if he stayed in 2018?
Possibly, but he didn't.... and that 2018 offer went to someone else.

By extension, since he got an offer as a 2019 (not a 2018) there is one less likely spot available for an age appropriate 2019 player.

So yes, re-classing = cheating (and cheating another child of an opportunity is offensive).

I can't wait for the day some of the kids that get over looked are able to turn the tables on all this re-classing. Some age appropriate kids will continue to mature while some re-classes will have peaked in freshman year of HS.

And the Kid, that is the late bloomer,but beginning to grow into his body,WILL get noticed by that Coach...and if they have the grades,they WILL find him...This hold back stuff for a very bright kid,doesn't work..Give the kid in an age appropriate setting the opportunity to perform and mature,and you will have a great,confident,smart and grateful p[ayer on your team..That will give any team 150 percent,because,they know the struggle ot took to get there! There are very legitimate BIG boys that are in their legitimate grades!!!! It still DOES exist!

Given the conversation I'd like to hear from the anti-holdback parents their view on the following and whether their sons root for/idolize this prolific player?

2007 HS Grad with lower level D1 commitment
Re-classed to 2008 via a PG year.
Stole a roster spot at a top Ivy program from a "deserving" 2008 HS Grad
Took a rare Ivy redshirt in 2012 stole a 2013 starting position from another deserving player

This is an example of a 2x re-class player. Many boys on LI have his poster on their wall.

Is this cheating?

Pretty quiet in here since it's been exposed that the evil Canadian was playing up in 2017 when the Cavs offered him a spot in the '19 class.

Given the conversation I'd like to hear from the anti-holdback parents their view on the following and whether their sons root for/idolize this prolific player?

2007 HS Grad with lower level D1 commitment
Re-classed to 2008 via a PG year.
Stole a roster spot at a top Ivy program from a "deserving" 2008 HS Grad
Took a rare Ivy redshirt in 2012 stole a 2013 starting position from another deserving player

This is an example of a 2x re-class player. Many boys on LI have his poster on their wall.

Is this cheating?

Given the conversation I'd like to hear from the anti-holdback parents their view on the following and whether their sons root for/idolize this prolific player?

2007 HS Grad with lower level D1 commitment
Re-classed to 2008 via a PG year.
Stole a roster spot at a top Ivy program from a "deserving" 2008 HS Grad
Took a rare Ivy redshirt in 2012 stole a 2013 starting position from another deserving player

This is an example of a 2x re-class player. Many boys on LI have his poster on their wall.

Is this cheating?

Nice try. But not even close. To compare a PG year and an injury red shirt year to a kid who repeats 9th grade three times is stretch at best.

My son (2018) and I watched some of the highest level 2019 lacrosse that I have witnessed to date this past weekend at the Philly Summer Invitational Showcase. Teams attended from all over the country and proved the sport is spreading everywhere and high level lacrosse is too.

Team 91 and Express North battled to a 11-8 win for Team 91. If Express North had won just a few faceoffs, who knows the outcome. Bottomline, the game was played with intensity and skill even after playing since Saturday in high heat. Kudos to all the boys.

My son (2018) and I watched some of the highest level 2019 lacrosse that I have witnessed to date this past weekend at the Philly Summer Invitational Showcase. Teams attended from all over the country and proved the sport is spreading everywhere and high level lacrosse is too.

Team 91 and Express North battled to a 11-8 win for Team 91. If Express North had won just a few faceoffs, who knows the outcome. Bottomline, the game was played with intensity and skill even after playing since Saturday in high heat. Kudos to all the boys.

My son (2018) and I watched some of the highest level 2019 lacrosse that I have witnessed to date this past weekend at the Philly Summer Invitational Showcase. Teams attended from all over the country and proved the sport is spreading everywhere and high level lacrosse is too.

Team 91 and Express North battled to a 11-8 win for Team 91. If Express North had won just a few faceoffs, who knows the outcome. Bottomline, the game was played with intensity and skill even after playing since Saturday in high heat. Kudos to all the boys.

We watched the 2019 final after the intense 2018 final concluded. I too am amazed at the level of competition in the 2018 and 2019 grad years. The final four teams in 2018 grad year have so many great players, fun to watch. The 2019 final with the Team 91 and LI Express North was a war. Both teams played their hearts out and never stopped running. I particularly enjoyed watching some of the old school middies who played both ends of the field. I've grown tired of specialist middies that run on and off the field more than they do during game play. Kudos to the coaches who are encouraging kids to play the "right" way.

Not at all. Fall Lacrosse, Winter Lacrosse, Spring Lacrosse and Summer Lacrosse. They prefer 4 sport athletes.

2019 Express North- great way to end the season making it to the finals of two very competitive tournaments.... Philly Showcase and Terps Young guns. First year team that only will get better