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Crabs 2020 did not even make it to the semi final at Hershey a few weeks ago, they lost to Edge 10-5 in the quarters. This was probably the Denver team tuning up before the word series. Edge lost to Looney's today in the final at Young Guns.

Without holdbacks, they are a very good team among a group of several.

Uhh...some of your second tier clubs could beat the Denver Crabs team with a cut off date. The fact that other teams have tied them this season when they are riddled with holdbacks prove that. And several other teams were invited -the parents just have other priorities than dropping thousands to play the same two teams they play enough already. This was not an elite tournament and it is funny you hunk it was. There was more competition at Young Guns.

Hogan has age and grade based divisions and actually enforces them. I'm not sure about Aloha, NXT will never go age based because their teams wouldn't be able to enter their own tournaments

Congrats on a strong showing at YounGunz today, no ships for the "great club", tough week in Crabbie nation, was nice seeing the blue crabs,who finally played in the correct division, getting tossed around also. good day to be wearing any other colors

I don't have a Crabs kid, but I read this forum, and especially this thread, with amusement. How in the world can you say the "Crabs are average" when they just went through the World Series of Lacrosse undefeated until the championship game, and then lost to the best team in the country? The 8 goals they scored were more than Sons (smoked 20-3) and all the other teams scored combined. Team 91 is definitely the best team in the country, period. Crabs are right behind them. When all the second tier clubs like Hawks, Breakers, FCA, Cannons, etc. catch up and get invited, speak up then. Until then, just stop the nonsense - you may hate them, but calling them average makes you sound like a moron...

Yes Crabs lost 19-8 and the Crab Hate Nation is jumping for joy. Fine -- I get that. However, can someone really say with a straight face that there is another 2020 team in the US that would have had a better showing on national TV (with all the pressure) against Crush? Humor me….name some teams. Im dying to know who these "above average" teams are.

Yes Crabs lost 19-8 and the Crab Hate Nation is jumping for joy. Fine -- I get that. However, can someone really say with a straight face that there is another 2020 team in the US that would have had a better showing on national TV (with all the pressure) against Crush? Humor me….name some teams. Im dying to know who these "above average" teams are.

Yes Crabs lost 19-8 and the Crab Hate Nation is jumping for joy. Fine -- I get that. However, can someone really say with a straight face that there is another 2020 team in the US that would have had a better showing on national TV (with all the pressure) against Crush? Humor me….name some teams. Im dying to know who these "above average" teams are.

In MD - Hawks, FCA, and Looneys.

LI - express and legacy tax

All the Crabs victories are tainted, can't judge a single one as being fair!

Express
Looney's
Edge - beat crabs 10-5 at Hershey
Tomahawks - have no idea who they are but they won at Hershey.
Hawks and Breakers - who both took Crabs to OT with their holdbacks,
Probably FCA too

Thats a good one given recent history. Keep trying

Thats a good one given recent history. Keep trying

Given recent history? What don't you get? When it's a level playing field (no Holdbacks) you are no better than the Breakers, Hawks, FCA, Loonies, etc. All of your wins are tainted by holdbacks. How do you explain beating 91 at beach lax and then getting destroyed by them yesterday. You know darn well they could have run up the score even further. Embarrassed on National TV and did not win one championship at their own tournment. Bad weekend for fat daddy crabby paddy.

Given recent history? What don't you get? When it's a level playing field (no Holdbacks) you are no better than the Breakers, Hawks, FCA, Loonies, etc. All of your wins are tainted by holdbacks. How do you explain beating 91 at beach lax and then getting destroyed by them yesterday. You know darn well they could have run up the score even further. Embarrassed on National TV and did not win one championship at their own tournment. Bad weekend for fat daddy crabby paddy.

You are looking at only one grade/team. Even if you ignore the fact that Crabs' MS teams improve/change dramatically by the time they get to HS, the Crabs organization top to bottom is unmatched in terms of quality of teams fielded/recruiting successes. Get the facts.

You have some serious issues.

and why is that?!? Because their players are all older than their counterparts,and their parents/coaches lack ethics. Fact.

You are looking at only one grade/team. Even if you ignore the fact that Crabs' MS teams improve/change dramatically by the time they get to HS, the Crabs organization top to bottom is unmatched in terms of quality of teams fielded/recruiting successes. Get the facts.

You are looking at only one grade/team. Even if you ignore the fact that Crabs' MS teams improve/change dramatically by the time they get to HS, the Crabs organization top to bottom is unmatched in terms of quality of teams fielded/recruiting successes. Get the facts.

Teams change because kids keep repeating grades and you play I grade based league and tournaments. Crabs are frauds living off of a tarnished reputation.


You are looking at only one grade/team. Even if you ignore the fact that Crabs' MS teams improve/change dramatically by the time they get to HS, the Crabs organization top to bottom is unmatched in terms of quality of teams fielded/recruiting successes. Get the facts.

Without holdbacks, Crabs would likely have a tough time breaking into the top 5. I can see it now, all of the self-important Crabs parents brimming with pride at being #6.

Duh...they improve dramatically because the holdbacks kick in. That's what we've been saying all along. Yes they are successful, but only by gaming the system.

No holdbacks in Denver, Einstein - they checked birth certificates and transcripts. Where did you watch the game from? I'm sure it wasn't the sidelines, was it?

Well, unfortunately, all of those teams were sitting at home watching the games on TV, for good reason. They just played in an age and grade based tournament against the best teams in the nation, and lost one game to the truly best team in the nation, Team 91. FCA 2020 is NOT good, don't even mention them in the same breath as Crabs and Team 91. Edge And Looney's are the only two that are maybe in the same league, but Hawks were not impressive this weekend at Young Guns.at all, and Breakers were just OK. Let's snap back to reality - you clearly are out of touch...

Before you get in deeper. You do realize the Sept 1 cutoff was dropped to May 1 for this yournament,,You do know what that means...Crabs had players that were still holdbacks, How many ?? only someone privy to Crabs rooster would know. But the Crabs obviously had some. May 1 to Aug 31 ( 4 months) would be holdback/prefirst land to the rest of Maryland's Sept 1 kids that started school on time..

No holdbacks in Denver, Einstein - they checked birth certificates and transcripts. Where did you watch the game from? I'm sure it wasn't the sidelines, was it?

Well, unfortunately, all of those teams were sitting at home watching the games on TV, for good reason. They just played in an age and grade based tournament against the best teams in the nation, and lost one game to the truly best team in the nation, Team 91. FCA 2020 is NOT good, don't even mention them in the same breath as Crabs and Team 91. Edge And Looney's are the only two that are maybe in the same league, but Hawks were not impressive this weekend at Young Guns.at all, and Breakers were just OK. Let's snap back to reality - you clearly are out of touch...

This makes no sense, what are you responding to? Have another natty bo.

FCA tied Crabs and they only lost to 91 12-5. If you don't think they are good just watch Them next year

Ok, crush , express, looney's, tomahawks, and edge - an age appropriate crabs team still does not crack top 5, and struggles to make top 7!

Birth certificates - the great equalizer!

FCA tied Crabs and they only lost to 91 12-5. If you don't think they are good just watch Them next year

Crabbie-check your facts. Hawks and Breakers both tied Crabs last month and needed to go to OT. And that was the turbo charged Crabs team with the 2019s along with the prior year holdbacks. Put the Denver team up against them, Crabs would not dominate. Believe one of them also had a better spread against 91 than the Crabs did in Denver. Playing without holdbacks, the Crabs Are not a force. You are definitely not in the same league as Crush.

OK - let's try and make this easy to understand. Crush is currently the best 2020 team in the nation, bar none, period. No one can touch them - NO ONE. I don't care what kind of drugs you're on, you will NEVER EVER convince me or most others of anything other than that. However - besides Crush, who Crabs played in the Championship game in the World Series of Lacrosse, also went 3-0 as did Crush. Here is where I need you to stay with me - NONE of the other teams you're mentioning - not LI Express, not, Looneys, not Tomahawks and not Edge, were there. None. Not one. Nada. An age appropriate Crabs team not only cracked top 5, it leapfrogged over them all. Not opinions, facts. Did all of the other teams' invites get lost in the mail? I don't think so. I guarantee that Team 91 Crush would have beaten any of the teams you named by at least 20 if they had been in Denver - I'd bet $10K on it, not a question in my mind. Just in case you need a refresher, these are the final standings:

AMERICAN NATIONAL
Leading Edge - 4th Denver Elite - 3rd
Crabs - 1st Rising Sons - 2nd
3d Colorado - 2nd Team Carolina - 4th
Eclipse - 5th Team 91 Crush - 1st
Michigan Warriors-3rd C2C Dallas - 5th

Crabbie-check your facts. Hawks and Breakers both tied Crabs last month and needed to go to OT. And that was the turbo charged Crabs team with the 2019s along with the prior year holdbacks. Put the Denver team up against them, Crabs would not dominate. Believe one of them also had a better spread against 91 than the Crabs did in Denver. Playing without holdbacks, the Crabs Are not a force. You are definitely not in the same league as Crush.

The only reason to mention crabs in the same sentence as T91 is because they were the team that got DESTROYED on national TV. Hawks went 4-1 and Looneys won the the whole thing. If fatty crabby had his 2020 at the tournament - how many holdbacks would have been on the team? 2019 players playing down? We all know the answer to that....

"Before you get in deeper" makes me laugh. Yes, oh wise one, I think everyone with a pair of eyes and ears is quite aware that the cutoff was set - FOR EVERY TEAM IN THE TOURNEY - at May 1. EVEN PLAYING FIELD, depending on what you choose to do. Last time I checked, they didn't say "Crabs, May 1 - everyone else, Sept 1". 100% fact for you - ALL of the teams had some players with birthdays prior to Sept 1, and none had players born prior to May 1. C2C Dallas had several - see how much that helped them? 30-0 - ouch...