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Im sure this makes for a long car ride back to the hotel for the "great club" I'm not sure who is going to be more pisssed, Muffy or little sport in the backseat. The both of them looking at you in disgust because you couldn't fix the situation for them. Sad day to be crabdad, way to let your sons down on national television in front of Body by Jake.


Not being a parent with either team, let's hope Crabs learned a lesson about the fact that they are just a good 2020 when they play on age. Let's hope that their parents will realize that they have their kid on a team that has to manipulate the rules in order to win and get a clue that they do not have the respect of the broader lacrosse community who sees through them. Nobody sees the Crabs kids as awesome players - good with one or two standouts but not superstars.

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Humiliated? Hardly.

Wait until the next tournament. I imagine we'll see the same whining we saw from T91 last month.


Justified whining since it now proven you need holdbacks AND kids from your 2019 team to win. You would not be number one in Baltimore either without those holdbacks. How can any parent let their kid play on a team that has to cheat to win? Great message to give your kids.

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That was a beating. Crabs were embarrassed.

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looked like they were all smiles after the game.. imagine being 13 and on ESPN2 .. you would have crapped in your cavariccis


Did not get that impression but does that include the kid who slammed his long pole down when a play did not go his way? Did not see that from any 91 kid who missed or lost the ball.

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You guys have zero perspective because you do not have kids who've gone through youth-hs lacrosse.

The Crabs get better every year because they are not sentimental during tryouts. I've seen Crab team that change the roster 50%+ from one season to the next (and no, those are not all kids who've reclassed).

The Crabs 2014 team went undefeated during their HS club careers, but lost games with different rosters during the MS years. Several of them were not on the team then.

You'll see a different Crabs team in the fall (and no, it will not be just because of kids who've reclassed).

Congratulations on your Super Bowl win. You were the better team today.

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Yes, a rule was broken, there were 8th graders playing in a 7th grade game, end of story.


Then why weren't they disqualified by the tournament? Because the Crabs didn't break a rule.

Get some new panties.


Interestingly enough some of the same boys that played w the 2020s at Beach Lax showed up at YoungGunz playing on the 2019 team again. Counted at least 3 of them and probably a 4th too. Guess they are playing up this weekend since they did not qualify for Denver!? Where oh where will they show up next weekend?


No surprise as the crabs do not hide the fact that they play kids down. After all, those kids were 2019 all year and maybe their spots can not be filled on 2019 until all the 2018s finish their season and fill the 2019 slots. Has got to be embarrassing for those boys and hard for their parents to know which schedule to follow each week.

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looked like they were all smiles after the game.. imagine being 13 and on ESPN2 .. you would have crapped in your cavariccis


I think you are right, glad the kids are smiling. would have loved to see the parents in the stands, back to work for pretzel boy to work the system, i unfortunately feel a trip to Jonestown for the kids who didnt get it done because Ryan thinks the field is level even though it's not. I might have [lacrosse] my pants,will never know. Think you would have done the same thing, the only difference is I would have cleaned myself up

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You guys have zero perspective because you do not have kids who've gone through youth-hs lacrosse.

The Crabs get better every year because they are not sentimental during tryouts. I've seen Crab team that change the roster 50%+ from one season to the next (and no, those are not all kids who've reclassed).

The Crabs 2014 team went undefeated during their HS club careers, but lost games with different rosters during the MS years. Several of them were not on the team then.

You'll see a different Crabs team in the fall (and no, it will not be just because of kids who've reclassed).

Congratulations on your Super Bowl win. You were the better team today.



Despite your parenthetical denials, the majority of Crabs teams do become made up of primarily holdback kids with the majority moving at end of 8th grade. The team and their MiAA schools encourage it. It will catch up with them as more and more tourneys go combo age and grade like Denver did. Then the Crabs historical advantage will be over. In the mean time, everyone knows their game and don't really see them as champions or view them with respect.

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You guys have zero perspective because you do not have kids who've gone through youth-hs lacrosse.

The Crabs get better every year because they are not sentimental during tryouts. I've seen Crab team that change the roster 50%+ from one season to the next (and no, those are not all kids who've reclassed).

The Crabs 2014 team went undefeated during their HS club careers, but lost games with different rosters during the MS years. Several of them were not on the team then.

You'll see a different Crabs team in the fall (and no, it will not be just because of kids who've reclassed).

Congratulations on your Super Bowl win. You were the better team today.


Help me get some perspective....

Several kids who were rostered on a 2019 team all year show up for a tournament with a 2020 team. We are told they have "reclassified" with lots of mumbo jumbo about planning to redo something sometime soon so this is all perfectly normal, but let's be honest, at the end of the day it was really just 8th graders playing on a 7th grade team.

A few weeks later they are back playing with their original team at young guns, are they now playing up? Have they de-reclassified? Are they now unclassified? Or does your organization just have no class?

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Humiliated? Hardly.

Wait until the next tournament. I imagine we'll see the same whining we saw from T91 last month.


Don't you mean "wait until the next tournament (when there is no age cutoff and we can bring in as many older kids as we need to win)"?

Yeah, I think that's what you mean.

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What was the final score?

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19-8

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Congrats Team 91. They are phenomenal team that put on clinic today with behind back feeds and scores on multiple occassions. We clearly were not same team as first time and that was certainly due to some of holdbacks but more to do with they played bad lacrosse today. Our holdbacks don't account for 11 goals. We caught Team 91 a little down at the beach, probably a little over confident as well. 10-6 beginning of first half and we fell asleep with soft D, weak slides, strange middy lines and allowed them to go on 6 point run. We knew they are better team but our boys could have kept that game with in 3-5 goals. Turned ball over with poor passing and throwing five times. Can't do that. No physicality or hustle for ground balls. We can draw conclusions about what are team is without holdbacks and we think they are as good and compete with any team in the country. They are inconsistent like many 13 year old boys. Team 91 Crush is the most dominant club team at any age group for years. They often bump up and smoke good 2019 teams. Watched them beat Hawks 2019 team like a dog. As far as remainder of teams Crabs is very strong team. This is all practice for high school and we are proud of the little Crabs. Many of our boys will now put the stick down and slide on football pads and soccer cleats. It's not an excuse, it's a reality. Very difficult to compete against kids/club that are laxers all year long. Team 91 is best 13 year olds in the world. Incredible to watch.

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Congrats Team 91. They are phenomenal team that put on clinic today with behind back feeds and scores on multiple occassions. We clearly were not same team as first time and that was certainly due to some of holdbacks but more to do with they played bad lacrosse today. Our holdbacks don't account for 11 goals. We caught Team 91 a little down at the beach, probably a little over confident as well. 10-6 beginning of first half and we fell asleep with soft D, weak slides, strange middy lines and allowed them to go on 6 point run. We knew they are better team but our boys could have kept that game with in 3-5 goals. Turned ball over with poor passing and throwing five times. Can't do that. No physicality or hustle for ground balls. We can draw conclusions about what are team is without holdbacks and we think they are as good and compete with any team in the country. They are inconsistent like many 13 year old boys. Team 91 Crush is the most dominant club team at any age group for years. They often bump up and smoke good 2019 teams. Watched them beat Hawks 2019 team like a dog. As far as remainder of teams Crabs is very strong team. This is all practice for high school and we are proud of the little Crabs. Many of our boys will now put the stick down and slide on football pads and soccer cleats. It's not an excuse, it's a reality. Very difficult to compete against kids/club that are laxers all year long. Team 91 is best 13 year olds in the world. Incredible to watch.


CrabbieDad, I did not think you had it in you. :-)

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Congrats Team 91. They are phenomenal team that put on clinic today with behind back feeds and scores on multiple occassions. We clearly were not same team as first time and that was certainly due to some of holdbacks but more to do with they played bad lacrosse today. Our holdbacks don't account for 11 goals. We caught Team 91 a little down at the beach, probably a little over confident as well. 10-6 beginning of first half and we fell asleep with soft D, weak slides, strange middy lines and allowed them to go on 6 point run. We knew they are better team but our boys could have kept that game with in 3-5 goals. Turned ball over with poor passing and throwing five times. Can't do that. No physicality or hustle for ground balls. We can draw conclusions about what are team is without holdbacks and we think they are as good and compete with any team in the country. They are inconsistent like many 13 year old boys. Team 91 Crush is the most dominant club team at any age group for years. They often bump up and smoke good 2019 teams. Watched them beat Hawks 2019 team like a dog. As far as remainder of teams Crabs is very strong team. This is all practice for high school and we are proud of the little Crabs. Many of our boys will now put the stick down and slide on football pads and soccer cleats. It's not an excuse, it's a reality. Very difficult to compete against kids/club that are laxers all year long. Team 91 is best 13 year olds in the world. Incredible to watch.



And no fruit basket for you Crabbiedad.

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I'm a md guy and have to say Losing by 11 goals is a good old fashioned [lacrosse] whoopin. Considering you won in beach lax in OT I think that is enough proof of the holdback factor. In a loss by 11 you can't go with the kids didn't play well. Bottom line is the Crabs are an average organization when they play on an even playing field. Did they have 8 coaches today all looking around and not knowing how to coach without kids physically bigger? It's a Different game coaching kids when everyone is the same age... You can't just pick a kid 18 months older and say go to the goal.
It would be great for youth lacrosse if all tourneys were set up like this and didn't favor the holdbacks.

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No fruit basket needed..a couple Titos and Tonics are hitting the spot after watching that game. Happy 4th.

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Congrats Team 91. They are phenomenal team that put on clinic today with behind back feeds and scores on multiple occassions. We clearly were not same team as first time and that was certainly due to some of holdbacks but more to do with they played bad lacrosse today. Our holdbacks don't account for 11 goals. We caught Team 91 a little down at the beach, probably a little over confident as well. 10-6 beginning of first half and we fell asleep with soft D, weak slides, strange middy lines and allowed them to go on 6 point run. We knew they are better team but our boys could have kept that game with in 3-5 goals. Turned ball over with poor passing and throwing five times. Can't do that. No physicality or hustle for ground balls. We can draw conclusions about what are team is without holdbacks and we think they are as good and compete with any team in the country. They are inconsistent like many 13 year old boys. Team 91 Crush is the most dominant club team at any age group for years. They often bump up and smoke good 2019 teams. Watched them beat Hawks 2019 team like a dog. As far as remainder of teams Crabs is very strong team. This is all practice for high school and we are proud of the little Crabs. Many of our boys will now put the stick down and slide on football pads and soccer cleats. It's not an excuse, it's a reality. Very difficult to compete against kids/club that are laxers all year long. Team 91 is best 13 year olds in the world. Incredible to watch.


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I'm a md guy and have to say Losing by 11 goals is a good old fashioned [lacrosse] whoopin. Considering you won in beach lax in OT I think that is enough proof of the holdback factor. In a loss by 11 you can't go with the kids didn't play well. Bottom line is the Crabs are an average organization when they play on an even playing field. Did they have 8 coaches today all looking around and not knowing how to coach without kids physically bigger? It's a Different game coaching kids when everyone is the same age... You can't just pick a kid 18 months older and say go to the goal.
It would be great for youth lacrosse if all tourneys were set up like this and didn't favor the holdbacks.


Hogan...Aloha....NXT...are you reading the recurring theme here? People want grade based with an age cut off. Do that for your tournaments -heck most reasonable parents would even pay more and you don't need the Crabs at your tournaments. There are enough competitive on age teams you would have your tourneys full. Who is going to stand up to King Crabby first?

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Equal playing field and the Crabs got smoked! Love it! MD dad!

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You guys have zero perspective because you do not have kids who've gone through youth-hs lacrosse.

The Crabs get better every year because they are not sentimental during tryouts. I've seen Crab team that change the roster 50%+ from one season to the next (and no, those are not all kids who've reclassed).

The Crabs 2014 team went undefeated during their HS club careers, but lost games with different rosters during the MS years. Several of them were not on the team then.

You'll see a different Crabs team in the fall (and no, it will not be just because of kids who've reclassed).

Congratulations on your Super Bowl win. You were the better team today.



Despite your parenthetical denials, the majority of Crabs teams do become made up of primarily holdback kids with the majority moving at end of 8th grade. The team and their MiAA schools encourage it. It will catch up with them as more and more tourneys go combo age and grade like Denver did. Then the Crabs historical advantage will be over. In the mean time, everyone knows their game and don't really see them as champions or view them with respect.


Incorrect. Look at Crabs 2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017, for example. The majority of those are not holdbacks. Not even close.

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Congrats Team 91. They are phenomenal team that put on clinic today with behind back feeds and scores on multiple occassions. We clearly were not same team as first time and that was certainly due to some of holdbacks but more to do with they played bad lacrosse today. Our holdbacks don't account for 11 goals. We caught Team 91 a little down at the beach, probably a little over confident as well. 10-6 beginning of first half and we fell asleep with soft D, weak slides, strange middy lines and allowed them to go on 6 point run. We knew they are better team but our boys could have kept that game with in 3-5 goals. Turned ball over with poor passing and throwing five times. Can't do that. No physicality or hustle for ground balls. We can draw conclusions about what are team is without holdbacks and we think they are as good and compete with any team in the country. They are inconsistent like many 13 year old boys. Team 91 Crush is the most dominant club team at any age group for years. They often bump up and smoke good 2019 teams. Watched them beat Hawks 2019 team like a dog. As far as remainder of teams Crabs is very strong team. This is all practice for high school and we are proud of the little Crabs. Many of our boys will now put the stick down and slide on football pads and soccer cleats. It's not an excuse, it's a reality. Very difficult to compete against kids/club that are laxers all year long. Team 91 is best 13 year olds in the world. Incredible to watch.


This Team 91 team is good, but nowhere near as dominant as the 2017 Turtles were for years. Get some perspective.

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looked like they were all smiles after the game.. imagine being 13 and on ESPN2 .. you would have crapped in your cavariccis


I think you are right, glad the kids are smiling. would have loved to see the parents in the stands, back to work for pretzel boy to work the system, i unfortunately feel a trip to Jonestown for the kids who didnt get it done because Ryan thinks the field is level even though it's not. I might have [lacrosse] my pants,will never know. Think you would have done the same thing, the only difference is I would have cleaned myself up


None of the parents should be smiling after being conned into playing in a tournament 1,600 miles away when the teams are only 250 miles from each other. I'm sure they got some nice gear though.

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What was the final score?


19-8


The Crabs scored first. At some tournaments (Bay Bridge Brawl), that's all you have to do to claim the Win.

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[/quote] Incorrect. Look at Crabs 2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017, for example. The majority of those are not holdbacks. Not even close. [/quote]

the MD Lax community is waking up to what the Crabs are about. they are not respected as an organization like they once were. I would expect within the next 5 years, if not sooner, 91 MD and FCA will be the top dogs in the Baltimore area with the Hawks right there as well.

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If crabs get past Rising Sons, what is the over/ under on the 91 - Crabs final? I say 91 wins by 15!


Looks like they got past them just fine, as did 91...lol

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[/quote] Incorrect. Look at Crabs 2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017, for example. The majority of those are not holdbacks. Not even close.


the MD Lax community is waking up to what the Crabs are about. they are not respected as an organization like they once were. I would expect within the next 5 years, if not sooner, 91 MD and FCA will be the top dogs in the Baltimore area with the Hawks right there as well.[/quote]

Um, nope. That's what you're hoping for, but very unlikely. The club has sent more kids to D1 programs than any other. Not going to fade away just because you lost a tournament to them.

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I don't have a Crabs kid, but I read this forum, and especially this thread, with amusement. How in the world can you say the "Crabs are average" when they just went through the World Series of Lacrosse undefeated until the championship game, and then lost to the best team in the country? The 8 goals they scored were more than Sons (smoked 20-3) and all the other teams scored combined. Team 91 is definitely the best team in the country, period. Crabs are right behind them. When all the second tier clubs like Hawks, Breakers, FCA, Cannons, etc. catch up and get invited, speak up then. Until then, just stop the nonsense - you may hate them, but calling them average makes you sound like a moron...

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I don't have a Crabs kid, but I read this forum, and especially this thread, with amusement. How in the world can you say the "Crabs are average" when they just went through the World Series of Lacrosse undefeated until the championship game, and then lost to the best team in the country? The 8 goals they scored were more than Sons (smoked 20-3) and all the other teams scored combined. Team 91 is definitely the best team in the country, period. Crabs are right behind them. When all the second tier clubs like Hawks, Breakers, FCA, Cannons, etc. catch up and get invited, speak up then. Until then, just stop the nonsense - you may hate them, but calling them average makes you sound like a moron...


there was at least another Baltimore team invited, but they declined due to other tournament commitments.

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Incorrect. Look at Crabs 2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017, for example. The majority of those are not holdbacks. Not even close.


the MD Lax community is waking up to what the Crabs are about. they are not respected as an organization like they once were. I would expect within the next 5 years, if not sooner, 91 MD and FCA will be the top dogs in the Baltimore area with the Hawks right there as well.[/quote]



Um, nope. That's what you're hoping for, but very unlikely. The club has sent more kids to D1 programs than any other. Not going to fade away just because you lost a tournament to them. [/quote]

not as unlikely as you think. Crabs arrogance is immeasurable and the lax community is seeing it first hand.

the advertisement 91 put out at the finals will pull Crab players over as well

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Get off your high horse. The "second tier" clubs you refer to are at least as talented as the crabs. The crabs won npyll because of one thing - holdbacks. The Hawks took them to the wire in the championship game and I believe the Breakers lost to them in OT in Beach Lax.

If the Crabs fielded the team they did yesterday in Denver - they would not have won the NPYLL or Beach Lax. Without holdbacks they are no better than the rest of the pack. Half that 2020 team will be on the 2021 team anyway...

Glad to see they got what they deserved yesterday - an embarrassing defeat on national TV. 91 was toying with them.....

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19-8


The Crabs scored first. At some tournaments (Bay Bridge Brawl), that's all you have to do to claim the Win.
crabs scored first!? yay!!!!!! so longs they that part of the game.

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Crabs just lost to Madlax by 1 goal in the semifinals

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I don't have a Crabs kid, but I read this forum, and especially this thread, with amusement. How in the world can you say the "Crabs are average" when they just went through the World Series of Lacrosse undefeated until the championship game, and then lost to the best team in the country? The 8 goals they scored were more than Sons (smoked 20-3) and all the other teams scored combined. Team 91 is definitely the best team in the country, period. Crabs are right behind them. When all the second tier clubs like Hawks, Breakers, FCA, Cannons, etc. catch up and get invited, speak up then. Until then, just stop the nonsense - you may hate them, but calling them average makes you sound like a moron...


EXPOSED... When rules are in place, the Crabs are just another good team. If you had a 9/1 cut off rule in place at all tournaments, the crabs would have trouble winning against 3 or 4 clubs in MD and and 3 or 4 in LI. Proven yesterday on National TV.

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Crabs losing is always a good thing. Karma is a [lacrosse].

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You guys have zero perspective because you do not have kids who've gone through youth-hs lacrosse.

The Crabs get better every year because they are not sentimental during tryouts. I've seen Crab team that change the roster 50%+ from one season to the next (and no, those are not all kids who've reclassed).

The Crabs 2014 team went undefeated during their HS club careers, but lost games with different rosters during the MS years. Several of them were not on the team then.

You'll see a different Crabs team in the fall (and no, it will not be just because of kids who've reclassed).

Congratulations on your Super Bowl win. You were the better team today.



Despite your parenthetical denials, the majority of Crabs teams do become made up of primarily holdback kids with the majority moving at end of 8th grade. The team and their MiAA schools encourage it. It will catch up with them as more and more tourneys go combo age and grade like Denver did. Then the Crabs historical advantage will be over. In the mean time, everyone knows their game and don't really see them as champions or view them with respect.


Incorrect. Look at Crabs 2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017, for example. The majority of those are not holdbacks. Not even close.


Blah blah blah, same BS from you MD holdback reclass clowns. You've been doing this for years... The more you deny it the sadder you sound. Put in a 9/1 cut off and you can't compete, end of story. Everyone knows the truth. I feel bad for the MD kids that ARE age legit and work hard.

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I don't have a Crabs kid, but I read this forum, and especially this thread, with amusement. How in the world can you say the "Crabs are average" when they just went through the World Series of Lacrosse undefeated until the championship game, and then lost to the best team in the country? The 8 goals they scored were more than Sons (smoked 20-3) and all the other teams scored combined. Team 91 is definitely the best team in the country, period. Crabs are right behind them. When all the second tier clubs like Hawks, Breakers, FCA, Cannons, etc. catch up and get invited, speak up then. Until then, just stop the nonsense - you may hate them, but calling them average makes you sound like a moron...


Uhh...some of your second tier clubs could beat the Denver Crabs team with a cut off date. The fact that other teams have tied them this season when they are riddled with holdbacks prove that. And several other teams were invited -the parents just have other priorities than dropping thousands to play the same two teams they play enough already. This was not an elite tournament and it is funny you hunk it was. There was more competition at Young Guns.

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I don't have a Crabs kid, but I read this forum, and especially this thread, with amusement. How in the world can you say the "Crabs are average" when they just went through the World Series of Lacrosse undefeated until the championship game, and then lost to the best team in the country? The 8 goals they scored were more than Sons (smoked 20-3) and all the other teams scored combined. Team 91 is definitely the best team in the country, period. Crabs are right behind them. When all the second tier clubs like Hawks, Breakers, FCA, Cannons, etc. catch up and get invited, speak up then. Until then, just stop the nonsense - you may hate them, but calling them average makes you sound like a moron...


I think the term average would be accurate, let's see them play all of the "2d tier" teams with that same roster and I'm calling BS on you not being a Crab dad, the sentence structure, pompous view of every other club is exactly the same. It is funny they lose one tournament game and you are all of the sudden ashamed to admit to being part of the blue and yellow

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I'm a md guy and have to say Losing by 11 goals is a good old fashioned [lacrosse] whoopin. Considering you won in beach lax in OT I think that is enough proof of the holdback factor. In a loss by 11 you can't go with the kids didn't play well. Bottom line is the Crabs are an average organization when they play on an even playing field. Did they have 8 coaches today all looking around and not knowing how to coach without kids physically bigger? It's a Different game coaching kids when everyone is the same age... You can't just pick a kid 18 months older and say go to the goal.
It would be great for youth lacrosse if all tourneys were set up like this and didn't favor the holdbacks.


Hogan...Aloha....NXT...are you reading the recurring theme here? People want grade based with an age cut off. Do that for your tournaments -heck most reasonable parents would even pay more and you don't need the Crabs at your tournaments. There are enough competitive on age teams you would have your tourneys full. Who is going to stand up to King Crabby first?


Hogan has age and grade based divisions and actually enforces them. I'm not sure about Aloha, NXT will never go age based because their teams wouldn't be able to enter their own tournaments

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