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It's a 5th grade game. It doesn't matter who wins. You'll realize this is a few years.

Do you actually believe what you wrote '''''Crabs has never asked a parent to spend an extra $25k to have their kids repeat a grade.''''

That is to funny ! Crabs have never asked a parents to have their kids repeat!! Too funny...

5 grade is 2022. 2021 is 6 grade. Crab parents don't know what year is what. Many that is why the crabs kids all play on different crab teams tournament to tournament.....

It's a 5th grade game? the Crabs organization touts every little game they win and when they lose it does not matter? They got beat handily today and I am glad to see it. Half the team will reclassify by the time they are ready for high school anyway...

For the Hawks, i'm sure it was a fifth grade game. For the Crabs, not so sure

I heard some of the better crabs 2020 players (the non hold backs) are looking to move elsewhere like to FCA, breakers, and others

It obviously matters to the kids playing the games. We get that it no longer matters to the kids (and parents) who are now playing at 6th, 7th, 8th, etc.

Lacrosse and all other games don't really matter in the whole grand scheme of life, but why do you feel the need to belittle the games that you feel are less important than the games you care about?

Enjoy the game. Encourage the kids. Everyone will benefit if you do.

The better Hawks kids will move over to Crabs!!

Of course! Because the natural 2019 non-holdbacks are pissed that they did not get substantial playing time because the numerous 2018 holdbacks took what should have been their time to shine. Now they will have to reclassify to shine as 2020's, thus screwing the non-holdback 2020's. A vicious cycle for the non-holdbacks that are very good players, but not great! Unfortunate that kids have to reclassify or move to other programs due to the ramphant reclassifying among the private school kids in the DMV. Used to soley be an issue at U15, now has filtered down to all of the age groups due to the grade based levels.

Can we talk about Edge? Why are they allowed to play in tournaments with kids who are a grade older?

The 2020 kids should move if they are going to be watching the older boys that have joined their team to play down. Why would they stay when they are talented and the only thing hurting them is that they are not playing with the younger group, but their own age. Play up, play your age, don't play down. Good luck to these kids. In 1-2 years they'll be hitting puberty and the tables will even out change for the kids that play down. You can't keep playing younger and younger to gain an advantage.

Do you know why Hawks players won't move over to the Crabs? Although it's clear the Crabs program has lots of talent there is an "end game factor" why they won't defect. Why go to the Crabs and play in 6th and 7th grade only to be cut or benched when you begin 8th grade because of the holdback players. I don't stress over holdbacks because when my son plays against them he does fine. Although it's to bad. As I have several friends who have great players on the Crabs 2021 team who will be pushed out of of spots/playing time soon enough for holdbacks from 2020. It's a domino effect. 2019 pushes down 2020, 2020 pushes out 2021.......FACT.

It's common knowledge around MD Lax. If you aren't holding your son back go anywhere but the Crabs.

If they are into cheating - I don't doubt it.

[quote=Anonymous]Of course! Because the natural 2019 non-holdbacks are pissed that they did not get substantial playing time because the numerous 2018 holdbacks took what should have been their time to shine. Now they will have to reclassify to shine as 2020's, thus screwing the non-holdback 2020's. A vicious cycle for the non-holdbacks that are very good players, but not great! Unfortunate that kids have to reclassify or move to other programs due to the ramphant reclassifying among the private school kids in the DMV. Used to soley be an issue at U15, now has filtered down to all of the age groups due to the grade based levels. [quote=Anonymous]I heard some of the better crabs 2020 players (the non hold backs) are looking to move elsewhere like to FCA, breakers, and others

This is a good thing right? Maybe those teams the Crabs kids move to will finally get better, making room for the better kids from other programs to the Crabs.

I heard 5 Club Blue players left to go play for the Crabs within the last week or two. Is this correct and how were there 5 spots on the Crab team this late in the year for them to go to?

Wrong. The best players for the Hawks leave for other clubs all the time, usually for the Crabs.

Those better kids that have left over the last two years still make the match up a push. These two teams have gone back and forth with wins and losses against each other

Not when it comes to HS. Crabs' HS teams pummel the Hawks, partly because the best Hawks players leave for the Crabs eventually.

It is actually some of the kids who start that are moving. I feel that if US lacrosse put an age limit then the crabs program would be screwed

No kidding. The best players from all clubs go to Crabs in HS.

No, the Crabs were the best club out there before this holdback thing became ubiquitous. People can hate on them, but they've been sending tons of kids to D1 programs for years. They have very good coaching and great talent. That's always been their philosophy.

The only way those players move to other clubs is if they get cut - which is highly unlikely. Stop with the rumor crap and keep with the facts.

not always true, with the exception of 2017's most of the hawks rosters have stayed intact

3 2018"s left Hawks for Crabs

Looks like Edge beat the Crabs 2020 team 10-5 to knock them out of the Hershey tournament this weekend. Did anyone see that game?

The Crabs teams are on par with the Breakers, Hawks, Madlax etc. until the holdbacks come into play. Once the 7th and 8th grade teams are running into the reclassified players that's where the problems start.

Crabs beat the champions who beat Edge in the finals, so seems they must have had a bad game in the semis.

In the last 2 years 5-6 Hawks 2021 players have left for the Crabs. Let's see how that has worked out with the "best" players leaving for the Crabs.

Fall - Hawks over Crabs (by 1 goal)
Spring - Crabs over Hawks twice (Championship Game by 1 goal)
Summer - Hawks over Crabs by a couple in Championship of MD Lax Tourney.

Hawks core group has done just fine and has stuck together. All good games. But why drive that 2 hour round trip for an evenly talented team. Also. What about the concern of being pushed off the roster or minimal playing time by a 2020 who has to play down cause he can't handle his own age group.

not exactly true, two 2018;s left three or four years ago and one came back, 2 2017's reclassed, played one year with 2018's and left

Maybe kids leave the Hawks because the HS program is mediocre. They had a good 2015 team, but other than that one, their HS teams are not elite.

Or maybe the champions had a bad game against the Crabs.

One of the hold back players was driving the other hold back players to the game, but the car broke down causing the hold back players to miss the game.

Would seem to be the case, looks like some good competition there. Actually more interested in hearing about Edge. Given their policy of intentionally registering teams down, did they look like a true 2020 i.e. rising 8th grade team?

* crickets *

* tumbleweeds *

Maybe players leave to find the best team with the best spot for them as a player. This is how all parents should be working this system. The parent should use the system to find the best place for their son. Never should be chasing trophy's that no one remembers who won them.

I meant that 3 2017's reclassed, played one year with 2018's and left

2019 team with possible hold backs.

So you're saying rising 9th graders with some possible 10th graders?

Maybe because it's a stupid comment.

Edge was clearly full of older players given their size. Difference is that you didn't hear any Crabs players or parents whining about playing a bigger team who was great competition for them. They were appreciative of the challenge and complementary of the Edge players and organization. Crabs lost with class which shouldn't surprise anyone.