BOTC - US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums NORTHEAST LACROSSE BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) Age Verification

Yes then another 10$ in their pockets and another 3$ administration fee per team event you are paying for x 20-25 boys per team 250$ per team plus 75$ per event

This is needed

Pease don't tell me they know how to enforce the age issue and chose money over the kids safety.
We are over here dealing with 12 yr old's playing against 10 yr old's and they have the ability to stop it?

Of course they know how! They just have to look at soccer and see they do it very well. They have to want to change it. It’s worked well for a certain group of people who like it the way it is. People who can take advantage of the system. Gain advantages by playing the system. It’s dangerous and needs to be changed.

You know US lacrosse is going the wrong way when dollars over safety are the priority.

The US lacrosse website shows who the board of directors are.
It shows Kristen Carr as the Representative to Sports Science & Safety Committee.
Surely Mrs. Carr must know that having 15 yr old's pay 13 yr old's is not safe?

They already have it in place. All you need to do is have the tournament require a US lacrosse number for all participants and they get the insurance to cover the tourney. This would easily solve the issue of age questions

Now, it's on the tournaments to all buy in to the concept. US Lacrosse can only go so far in regards to mandates.

The Women's college coaching association led the way on the women's side. The Men's college coaches (IMLCA) is lagging here and has been an annual battle because some coaches do not want to go that route.

Travel teams do not care & they are running the show. They want the older kids & the holdbacks. Wins = more k ids coming to their program.

Some kids will graduate high school when they are 20!! Facts.

Well let’s see what happens because there is a lot of chatter, but until I see something concrete I’m skeptical. Your comments demonstrate a real lack of comprehension on how things can potentially work though. Yes, club teams can do what they want around configuring teams as old as possible today because the rules and framework that exists allows that. And above there is limited enforcement of existing suboptimal rules. New standards from central authorities cascades to insurance requirements, and ultimately liability considerations and can potentially change everything in an instant. what’s best and preferred from the standpoint of a club team can easily change so as to secure their ongoing revenue streams. Remember, They like revenue not holdbacks. In todays framework holdbacks help them get revenue.

Ultimately all this is for the enjoyment and growth of kids - the vast majority of which won’t even be recruited let alone play in college. Seems that is always forgotten.

They may not care but US lacrosse finally does. The sport grew, money has been made, and now the age framework they came up with a couple of years ago will finally be enforced. It may be to late for some kids but at least the younger kids coming up won't have to deal with these shenanigan's.

Well done US Lacrosse!

Do you realize that there are many big tournaments that don’t use US Lacrosse insurance?

Even if they did make the change. it stops nothing. Literally nothing. The big clubs would just go to different tournaments. And the college coaches would follow because that’s where the best players would be. And you’d effectively have a major league and a minor league of talent at tournaments.

The clubs themselves would actually have to decide to change this.

It's actually a reasonably large percentage of players who eventually play D1 -- this is a Long Island club thread.


Just admit that you're a cheater and want to make things easier for other cheaters.

Cheat all you want in HS for this "pot of gold"
In the MS/Youth ages groups playing your older kid down against younger kids is disgusting.

I'm not waiting for the age rules to go into effect next year.
I'm playing my kid down this year so he can finally play on age this summer.

I just don’t understand the impetus of playing down. I feel like if anything should be done, you should play up. Yes maybe a very small mentoring will strike gold and end up at a phenomenal school but the majority of them do not. And then now you have delayed your kids future by 1-3 years for a sport where there is no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. Then there are the life lessons taught that if you can’t succeed with your peers you should pick on someone not your own size. Finally there is the equity issue as this tends to favor the wealthy. Maybe some pros for holdbacks but I see a lot more cons in the end.

But I too will not hold my breath until something tangible happens. Clubs and colleges control the money flow / power. They have no incentive to change it. Not entirely analogous to NCAA football and the power conferences that control that sport but you can certainly see the parallels

Looks like change is coming, per Insidelacrosse.com today...
https://www.insidelacrosse.com/arti...cation-is-coming-to-youth-lacrosse/60381

Cheat all you want in HS for this "pot of gold"
In the MS/Youth ages groups playing your older kid down against younger kids is disgusting.

I'm not waiting for the age rules to go into effect next year.
I'm playing my kid down this year so he can finally play on age this summer.[/quote]

Your kid must be on 91.

It is here:

https://nationallacrossefederation.com/ageverificationpolicy/

Outstanding news.

Well done. Starting this fall all kids younger than 2029 will be aged base until high school.Great stuff.

It’s about time. Are the holdback daddies twitching?? Love to see it!

its progress but not perfect. June 1 cutoff so still will include kids who will turn 15 at end of 8th grade. Doesn't seem to include any rule on allowing to repeat if you fall within the guideline. So if you were on the young end and had a birthday in early june you can repeat.

Is it an 18 month window which doesnt really address the whiners concerns where a bigger kid should never ever play against a smaller kid. Lets go to weight class like wrestling. Colleges still want the older kids.

It’s a 15 month window. If your kid can’t compete now it’s time to realize you should probably just stick rec league and call it a day. These debates should be over, anyone who complains now should take up needlepoint