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Number two tg finish was the purple team, not black.



Black was the #2 team in the A pool, but also the only team that didn't play YJ. Playoffs were a joke - B and C pool winners played each other and A got a bye. Purple was only the #2 overall because they won the B pool, and barely beat C winner 5-4 in playoff. Would have been better games, and more representative, if A's played each other again.


Maybe the teams in the other pools shouldn't make the playoffs at all huh? Heck - forget the playoffs. They shouldn't even play at all.

Win your pool.


Thanks Purple dad. If the pools were random I would agree, but they were split to start so it was pretty much a given that the A pool winner would win it all.

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The finals were 20 minute games, everyone knows the pool play is more important in these tournaments.

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If I do recall, teams get a little more spread out in pool play at ND when they get into the older divisions. Thus having a fairer reprisentative of finalists. For the younger ones they flight them so not to have blow outs in pool play (where the games are longer and help develop girls more than a 20 minute playoff game).

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Congratulation to the YJ 2020 Jones team went 4-0 at ND. great game against a tough Elevate team. Too bad they didnt advanceas they lost the tie breaker to TG Black.

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Congratulation to the YJ 2020 Jones team went 4-0 at ND. great game against a tough Elevate team. Too bad they didnt advanceas they lost the tie breaker to TG Black.

Why don't you post this in the 2020 thread. This is the 2021 thread. I am sure you posted that several times, to bad you will never be respected in your own organization. Sucks being the third wheel.

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Any team out there going to give M&D 2021 some competition this year?


M&D was the ONLY team to beat the 2021 Elevate Team by a wide margin, they were a very strong team. 2021 Elevate beat the 2021 TG and Skywalker teams and lost our last game in a close playoff game to YJ by one goal. M&D was by far the best team we played this summer and it will be interesting to see how things go next year.


Elevate was a good team, second best on LI behind YJ in this age group, a great accomplishment. Just to complete the picture, YJ was 3-0 against Elevate this summer. Some close games but they were played as "short" 20 minute playoff games. The one full game they played was 6-1. I would get a win against these programs before you put yourself out there as being at their level. By the way, the Skywalkers team that played in that tourney was listed as 2021/2022 so I would expect you to beat them.


Agree, Skywalkers were not a strong team. The fact that Elevate lost to YJ early in tournament season by a wider margin when the team had only practiced twice together, the better and more accurate picture was the 3-2 game which took place toward the end of tournament season after the kids actually played together for several weeks.


We will look back and laugh next season.


This parent still looking back and laughing a year later after a full length one goal game between YJ and Elevate?

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Any team out there going to give M&D 2021 some competition this year?


M&D was the ONLY team to beat the 2021 Elevate Team by a wide margin, they were a very strong team. 2021 Elevate beat the 2021 TG and Skywalker teams and lost our last game in a close playoff game to YJ by one goal. M&D was by far the best team we played this summer and it will be interesting to see how things go next year.


Elevate was a good team, second best on LI behind YJ in this age group, a great accomplishment. Just to complete the picture, YJ was 3-0 against Elevate this summer. Some close games but they were played as "short" 20 minute playoff games. The one full game they played was 6-1. I would get a win against these programs before you put yourself out there as being at their level. By the way, the Skywalkers team that played in that tourney was listed as 2021/2022 so I would expect you to beat them.


Agree, Skywalkers were not a strong team. The fact that Elevate lost to YJ early in tournament season by a wider margin when the team had only practiced twice together, the better and more accurate picture was the 3-2 game which took place toward the end of tournament season after the kids actually played together for several weeks.


We will look back and laugh next season.


This parent still looking back and laughing a year later after a full length one goal game between YJ and Elevate?


Much better game this week, 0-5 and counting though, perhaps not a laugh which would be rude, but certainly at least a smile...

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really, read back a few quotes and it talks about the curcio team winning it all, and beating tg black 6-0 , when then won 3-2. so your 2021 rant was wrong.. Mr or Mrs 2021

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Congratulation to the YJ 2020 Jones team went 4-0 at ND. great game against a tough Elevate team. Too bad they didnt advanceas they lost the tie breaker to TG Black.


Head to head TG beat elevate 10-5... Jones squeezed out a one goal win. If that's a tie in your book so be it.

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Congratulation to the YJ 2020 Jones team went 4-0 at ND. great game against a tough Elevate team. Too bad they didnt advanceas they lost the tie breaker to TG Black.


Head to head TG beat elevate 10-5... Jones squeezed out a one goal win. If that's a tie in your book so be it.


TG Beat Elevate 5-4 that is a one goal difference.

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Congratulation to the YJ 2020 Jones team went 4-0 at ND. great game against a tough Elevate team. Too bad they didnt advanceas they lost the tie breaker to TG Black.


Head to head TG beat elevate 10-5... Jones squeezed out a one goal win. If that's a tie in your book so be it.


TG Beat Elevate 5-4 that is a one goal difference.


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really, read back a few quotes and it talks about the curcio team winning it all, and beating tg black 6-0 , when then won 3-2. so your 2021 rant was wrong.. Mr or Mrs 2021


Sorry, not following you. The person that referenced a YJ 6-0 win at 2020 was clearly not at the game. However, go read the National Draw website and it reads as a 6-0 win so an honest mistake. Not sure any of that has to do with 2021.

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Any team out there going to give M&D 2021 some competition this year?


M&D was the ONLY team to beat the 2021 Elevate Team by a wide margin, they were a very strong team. 2021 Elevate beat the 2021 TG and Skywalker teams and lost our last game in a close playoff game to YJ by one goal. M&D was by far the best team we played this summer and it will be interesting to see how things go next year.


All the other elevate 21 parents find this one person and stop them from posting. For the last year all we heard about was a bunch of almost games and chest pounding over beating topguns. Your still losing to yj and now losing to top guns too! Quietly go about your business and earn respect by winning on the field. Certainly not going to win respect by some parent flapping on this thread.

Elevate was a good team, second best on LI behind YJ in this age group, a great accomplishment. Just to complete the picture, YJ was 3-0 against Elevate this summer. Some close games but they were played as "short" 20 minute playoff games. The one full game they played was 6-1. I would get a win against these programs before you put yourself out there as being at their level. By the way, the Skywalkers team that played in that tourney was listed as 2021/2022 so I would expect you to beat them.


Agree, Skywalkers were not a strong team. The fact that Elevate lost to YJ early in tournament season by a wider margin when the team had only practiced twice together, the better and more accurate picture was the 3-2 game which took place toward the end of tournament season after the kids actually played together for several weeks.


We will look back and laugh next season.


This parent still looking back and laughing a year later after a full length one goal game between YJ and Elevate?

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really, read back a few quotes and it talks about the curcio team winning it all, and beating tg black 6-0 , when then won 3-2. so your 2021 rant was wrong.. Mr or Mrs 2021


Sorry, not following you. The person that referenced a YJ 6-0 win at 2020 was clearly not at the game. However, go read the National Draw website and it reads as a 6-0 win so an honest mistake. Not sure any of that has to do with 2021.

Why are 2020's even posting here, you fools? This is the 2021 thread. Go beat your chest over in your own thread.

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really, read back a few quotes and it talks about the curcio team winning it all, and beating tg black 6-0 , when then won 3-2. so your 2021 rant was wrong.. Mr or Mrs 2021


Sorry, not following you. The person that referenced a YJ 6-0 win at 2020 was clearly not at the game. However, go read the National Draw website and it reads as a 6-0 win so an honest mistake. Not sure any of that has to do with 2021.

Why are 2020's even posting here, you fools? This is the 2021 thread. Go beat your chest over in your own thread.


I think it is because someone referenced the YJ 2020 team on this thread a couple of quotes back and incorrectly posted the score.

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really, read back a few quotes and it talks about the curcio team winning it all, and beating tg black 6-0 , when then won 3-2. so your 2021 rant was wrong.. Mr or Mrs 2021


Sorry, not following you. The person that referenced a YJ 6-0 win at 2020 was clearly not at the game. However, go read the National Draw website and it reads as a 6-0 win so an honest mistake. Not sure any of that has to do with 2021.

Why are 2020's even posting here, you fools? This is the 2021 thread. Go beat your chest over in your own thread.


Because the 2020s are a virus that infect everything they come in contact with. They are like the Candyman. Say their name three times and they show up to terrorize you

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[quote=Anonymous]really, read back a few quotes and it talks about the curcio team winning it all, and beating tg black 6-0 , when then won 3-2. so your 2021 rant was wrong.. Mr or Mrs 2021


Sorry, not following you. The person that referenced a YJ 6-0 win at 2020 was clearly not at the game. However, go read the National Draw website and it reads as a 6-0 win so an honest mistake. Not sure any of that has to do with 2021.

Why are 2020's even posting here, you fools? This is the 2021 thread. Go beat your chest over in your own thread.


Because the 2020s are a virus that infect everything they come in contact with. They are like the Candyman. Say their name three times and they show up to terrorize you

I thought that was Beetlejuice.

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Just posting to get this thread back on 1st page now that they are shutting down the club specific threads.

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Well, I think the changing of tournament participation is a kind of natural phenomenon and has to do with the life cycle of the tournament scene as new tournaments rise and old ones fall. Also, I think there are a lot of trade offs and "political" motivations behind which tournaments organizations choose to participate in.

Finally, the quality and number of teams going to the National Draw has been slipping the past few years and it looks like it got to a tipping point of sorts as far as M&D is concerned.


Also look at the list of college coaches attending, this tournament has certainly slipped heavily on that front too! Too big and competition too watered down.
I would rather lose to M&D every week than drive to NJ and play so many weak teams. 2021 YJ Blue won 13-3, 13-0, 13-0, 6-0, 5-1, the last two being twenty minute playoff games. Our growing rivalry with M&D has so far been so much more competitive for all girls involved. Both teams are also developing a growing respect for each other, as are the parents. I wish we could align ourselves to play them at every tournament. Since we are getting older we have noticed the Maryland tournaments are run so much better and competition is so much stronger. It will only make our girls better. Hoping to see them at the Prime time summer slam at Goucher college.


Has the 2021 YJ Team beaten 2021 M&D Black this year?


Nope ! .... Hard to figure out what all the talk is about ,there's M&D and then there's everyone else.


why yes, yesterday. Another fantastic game between two great teams. Cannot say enough good things about 2021 M&D team and parents, has been a great experience this summer.

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YJ 2021 Skak are not totally clean. The "defend" by diggin the butts of their sticks into the lower back and hips of their opponent. This is taught in their practice so that isn't clean.
But there is no doubting their talent.


I agree with this. Very talented team and the parents have been great, but all YJ players butt end attackers. Technique taught to every YJ team.


They are actually taught to keep forearm contact but what often happens is they either over extend to make the contact, the offensive player feels the initial contact and creates separation causing the defensive player to attempt to maintain the contact (again over extending) or in an attempt to keep proper stick head angle (out of the sphere) they rotate their lower hand forward and loose proper forearm contact.
It's not intentional, they are learning to play a tight defense. The coaches never say put your butt end into someone's side.


So I watched for this all weekend and frankly is not an issue. This team plays tough but rarely see a hard foul. Went six games against some tough competition this weekend without a single card, opponents had several...

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elevate didn't play in the same division as yj ...they avoided playing them ..beat very weak teams then faced yj in playoffs and got crushed ...2021 yj are by far best team on long island and other club directors know it ...


YJ 2021 squeaked out a one goal win over Elevate 2021 at National Draw again so it doesn't look like YJ is the powerhouse they brag to be in that age group.


I think winning LFTC by beating M&D, Hero's and Maryland United might change your mind? Have only lost to one true 2021 team all year, M&D Black. A great team and group of parents by the way. They won first two games, then a tie and now a YJ win.

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elevate didn't play in the same division as yj ...they avoided playing them ..beat very weak teams then faced yj in playoffs and got crushed ...2021 yj are by far best team on long island and other club directors know it ...


YJ 2021 squeaked out a one goal win over Elevate 2021 at National Draw again so it doesn't look like YJ is the powerhouse they brag to be in that age group.


Elevate 0-5 against YJ and counting... Although today got close towards the end, YJ never trailed.


Another close elevate YJ game today. Looking forward to a rematch. Should play more on LI good competition.


A re-match would have been great today, but with all due respect, you have to get out of pool play. We will have to wait until next summer, no more like tourneys this year. Best of luck for the remainder of the season.

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Hero's had good showings in 2020, 2019 and 2018 - what happened in 2021? Was it just because they were in the same pool with M&D and YJ Blue? That looks like a tough pool to get out of.

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Hero's had good showings in 2020, 2019 and 2018 - what happened in 2021? Was it just because they were in the same pool with M&D and YJ Blue? That looks like a tough pool to get out of.


It was the pool, any othee grouping and they make it. They tied M&D and was leading at half against YJ.

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elevate didn't play in the same division as yj ...they avoided playing them ..beat very weak teams then faced yj in playoffs and got crushed ...2021 yj are by far best team on long island and other club directors know it ...


YJ 2021 squeaked out a one goal win over Elevate 2021 at National Draw again so it doesn't look like YJ is the powerhouse they brag to be in that age group.


I think winning LFTC by beating M&D, Hero's and Maryland United might change your mind? Have only lost to one true 2021 team all year, M&D Black. A great team and group of parents by the way. They won first two games, then a tie and now a YJ win.


As has been said, M&D and YJ are by far heads and shoulders above everyone else. M&D struggled a bit this weekend because they were missing 3 starters, one of which being their best player. A shame there will be no more matchups this year.

Elevate didn't win a second tier division.

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elevate didn't play in the same division as yj ...they avoided playing them ..beat very weak teams then faced yj in playoffs and got crushed ...2021 yj are by far best team on long island and other club directors know it ...


YJ 2021 squeaked out a one goal win over Elevate 2021 at National Draw again so it doesn't look like YJ is the powerhouse they brag to be in that age group.


I think winning LFTC by beating M&D, Hero's and Maryland United might change your mind? Have only lost to one true 2021 team all year, M&D Black. A great team and group of parents by the way. They won first two games, then a tie and now a YJ win.


As has been said, M&D and YJ are by far heads and shoulders above everyone else. M&D struggled a bit this weekend because they were missing 3 starters, one of which being their best player. A shame there will be no more matchups this year.

Elevate didn't win a second tier division.


They told us we were in the toughest bracket and that we were outstanding!

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elevate didn't play in the same division as yj ...they avoided playing them ..beat very weak teams then faced yj in playoffs and got crushed ...2021 yj are by far best team on long island and other club directors know it ...


YJ 2021 squeaked out a one goal win over Elevate 2021 at National Draw again so it doesn't look like YJ is the powerhouse they brag to be in that age group.


I think winning LFTC by beating M&D, Hero's and Maryland United might change your mind? Have only lost to one true 2021 team all year, M&D Black. A great team and group of parents by the way. They won first two games, then a tie and now a YJ win.


As has been said, M&D and YJ are by far heads and shoulders above everyone else. M&D struggled a bit this weekend because they were missing 3 starters, one of which being their best player. A shame there will be no more matchups this year.

Elevate didn't win a second tier division.


They told us we were in the toughest bracket and that we were outstanding!


The 2021 elevate team wants desperately to be considered in the top team discussion, but based on what? They beat TG team last year?

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elevate didn't play in the same division as yj ...they avoided playing them ..beat very weak teams then faced yj in playoffs and got crushed ...2021 yj are by far best team on long island and other club directors know it ...


YJ 2021 squeaked out a one goal win over Elevate 2021 at National Draw again so it doesn't look like YJ is the powerhouse they brag to be in that age group.


I think winning LFTC by beating M&D, Hero's and Maryland United might change your mind? Have only lost to one true 2021 team all year, M&D Black. A great team and group of parents by the way. They won first two games, then a tie and now a YJ win.


As has been said, M&D and YJ are by far heads and shoulders above everyone else. M&D struggled a bit this weekend because they were missing 3 starters, one of which being their best player. A shame there will be no more matchups this year.

Elevate didn't win a second tier division.


They told us we were in the toughest bracket and that we were outstanding!


The 2021 elevate team wants desperately to be considered in the top team discussion, but based on what? They beat TG team last year?


Team Elevate 2021 can play with anyone at this age bracket

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YJ 2021 squeaked out a one goal win over Elevate 2021 at National Draw again so it doesn't look like YJ is the powerhouse they brag to be in that age group. [/quote]

I think winning LFTC by beating M&D, Hero's and Maryland United might change your mind? Have only lost to one true 2021 team all year, M&D Black. A great team and group of parents by the way. They won first two games, then a tie and now a YJ win. [/quote]

As has been said, M&D and YJ are by far heads and shoulders above everyone else. M&D struggled a bit this weekend because they were missing 3 starters, one of which being their best player. A shame there will be no more matchups this year.

Elevate didn't win a second tier division. [/quote]

They told us we were in the toughest bracket and that we were outstanding! [/quote]

The 2021 elevate team wants desperately to be considered in the top team discussion, but based on what? They beat TG team last year? [/quote]

Team Elevate 2021 can play with anyone at this age bracket[/quote]

Based on what? M&D beat them 11-3 last year and they have never beaten YJ. They lost to TLC who is a middle of the pack MD team at this age

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One of the TLC goalies made 5 or 6 really great saves during that Elevate loss.

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One of the TLC goalies made 5 or 6 really great saves during that Elevate loss.


Whatever. The Hero's goalie probably made 20 saves in the 3-3 M&D tie. M&D outshot them about 25-5. A loss is a loss

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Elevate is a decent team and some day will get a win over a team worth mentioning. Hope you can handle it with grace because right now you are far from grace even in losing. All the woulda, coulda, shoulda posts.... Heaven help us all if you actually win a game.

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Oh I forgot my life revolves around girls 6th grade lacrosse. I need to win every game to feel good about myself. Get a life really. No need to bash these group of girls. They are a really good team.

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Based on what? M&D beat them 11-3 last year and they have never beaten YJ. They lost to TLC who is a middle of the pack MD team at this age

Easy with the "middle of the pack" comment. TLC has beaten Heroes and MD United this year and dealt with a coaching change mid-season. You beat M&D once, when they were down several good players. Back that one win out and you and TLC have the same thing in common, you can't beat M&D.

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Based on what? M&D beat them 11-3 last year and they have never beaten YJ. They lost to TLC who is a middle of the pack MD team at this age

Easy with the "middle of the pack" comment. TLC has beaten Heroes and MD United this year and dealt with a coaching change mid-season. You beat M&D once, when they were down several good players. Back that one win out and you and TLC have the same thing in common, you can't beat M&D.


No dog in this fight but not knowing any of the teams involved I looked at this weekends results and a team that goes 2-2 in a lower bracket seems like a middle of the pack team to me , at least on this weekend.

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Based on what? M&D beat them 11-3 last year and they have never beaten YJ. They lost to TLC who is a middle of the pack MD team at this age

Easy with the "middle of the pack" comment. TLC has beaten Heroes and MD United this year and dealt with a coaching change mid-season. You beat M&D once, when they were down several good players. Back that one win out and you and TLC have the same thing in common, you can't beat M&D.


Please have your coaches pick up their 4th place ribbons at the officials tent.

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Should be a fun week in Towson. Glad to see YJ and Elevate coming down for the camp.

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Is the entire YJ 2021 Skak team at the Towson camp this week or is it a mixture of girls from all the 2021 teams?

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just 2021 skak


Let's Enjoy. Many changes headed our way for next year.

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