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i'm confused with all of the colors and geographics, is VLC still sandbagging or did they finally step up and play AA teams

No I think they are playing where they should. We will see what happens when they play in Young guns. That should be a true AA or AAA tournament.

No I think they are playing where they should. We will see what happens when they play in Young guns. That should be a true AA or AAA tournament.

How will the Madlax 2020 team do in this weekend's tournament?

not really a madlax question, but figure therewill be some players involved as well as VLC, Blackwolf, etc. Does anyone have rosetr info for Wavelax vs. Freestate Games this coming Thursday

Ok lets all get our thoughts out about this new Madlax VA and Madlax MD teams. It sounds like the VA teams should be good from the start but what does everyone think about the Maryland team on day one? This new system should only help the Orange teams now just the Capital team. I guess we will never have to worry about asking what color team someone is talking about.

Just another way for Madlax to make more money. It screws the families who play for the B team because now there is a B team in MD and a B team in VA instead of just one B team. More families will have $100 automatically charged to their credit cards every month.

Didn't he try this before, why would it work now with more clubs on the scene if it didn't work the first time.

He has a new guy and new store in MD. If he just takes 2 players from each of the clubs now and puts them with the MD kids already on rosters,should be fine. Also must carry less kids per team.

It is all about putting money in that guy's pockets.

Don't forget how he charges his family over $300 a month just to reach out to colleges on behalf of those families. What a concept - charge hundreds of dollars a month for something other clubs do for fre.

An all the kids will be desk jockeys just like us. LOL. Save you money for tutors and 529 plans.

HS Breakers cost was $2,500 this year!

Ok so that gets you what? 4 summer tournaments. does that pay for any fall league games or winter league games? I think the summer payment for most teams on Madlax was 1400 to 1500. Plus the monthly 100$ or 75$ fee.

I think you are reading that wrong, that package you are talking about is for a kid that does not play for Madlax and wants someone to do recruiting services for them. They do charge a monthly fee that other clubs do not charge but it goes from 50$ a month then 75$ then 100$. And the assumption is this money goes to pay the coaches. I can confirm they all get paid but how much I do not know. I have compared what I pay to what VLC,Next level and some of the others charge and it works out to like 1500$ more for a complete year of lacrosse. And the funny part is I have never met a Lacrosse parent that does not have the money. The money for all the clubs is nuts. So one team is 2000$ a year and the other is 3500$ a year. And any of the clubs that go with the 750$ a year model are being coached by Dads and Rec coaches.

1. I know a former Madlax family. While they were with Madlax, they tried to get the owner to make calls for them by paying the fee. Owner turned them down, saying that their kid wasn't D1 material. Then the kid got better and owner changed his mind, and they paid him a monthly fee for a time on top of the other Madlax fees. Decides to leave for a different club and now the kid will be playing for a high D1 school this fall. Feels fortunate that they left Madlax.

2. The fee isn't to pay the coaches - the fee goes straight to the bottom line (i.e. the owner's pockets).

Having a kid who finished recruiting process and one who may be entering it in a year, I can tell you that comment is off. There are hundreds of kids as good or better than D1 committed kids in high school right now who: 1. didn't go to showcase events (costs a lot to attend them, some people can't afford it), 2. didn't go to a prep school for lacrosse (the focus here is 100% what Madlax or others can do for you, but often a much more powerful advocate is a prep coach, even if your son hasn't even played a game for him yet!), 3. didn't pay up directly or indirectly for the club coach to audition their kid versus the kid standing next to him whose family sent him to every conceivable Maxlax, Crabs, etc. clinic, camp or other event.

Loyalty is a two way street, and the way club guys see it loyalty to them is attending and paying up for upteen events along the way. Parents see loyalty as smile and dial for my son, and making sure that is paid for is the only way it seems to happen in a lot of instances. How does a prep school push a 9th grader before tryouts? Last summer we brought him up for a tournament with our varsity, and golly he is a swell kid and an advanced player for his age. And he is only going to get a lot better in his four years at [fill in blank DC area elite lacrosse team prep school]. Yup, my son goes to a private school for lacrosse and for other desired reasons as we think it is a good school and academic fit for him. But I won't be a hypocrite: his chances of getting a college recruited spot were 0.00% if he rode the club team wave alone since I didn't roll like that to go to all the clinics and other nonsense they kept selling.

If you think your son playing better on the field is nearly enough, you are very mistaken and will learn different as you advance through the process. Our club -- not Madlax -- did NOTHING to help our son get a college spot, but that does not stop the club from taking all the credit for it or listing it on the club website.

Thanks. Take with some salt because this is just my experience alone:
1. prep coaches - I think it is sad but true that lacrosse is still very caught in the prep school spiral. In exact words my son's prep coach said the club coach has your kid for 3-5 weeks in summer and some weekends in fall. Prep coaches have the kid every day for 90+ days. Their reference is credible, even when it is (IMHO) pathetic when the kid hasn't even had a spring 9th grade season yet. They can also give the recruiter comfort that the kid will develop in their program.
2. Showcases should not be important for prep parents given #1, but I think are indispensable for public kids. I would say buyer beware because there is a lot of crap. The best ones are Philly Showcase, Adrenaline Black Card and Marverik Showtime. Unfortunately Showtime is a harder one to access from here because it is run by Long Island guys and politically dominated by locals. I don't really have anything + or - to say about the 3d Blue Chip auditions for the Jake Reed thing. We didn't pony up for that and don't really know what we were missing.
3. Prospect days are underrated - if your son has a list short enough of 2-4 schools these are good ways to get in front of coaches at the schools.
4. Club lacrosse ranks last because it belongs there. My son went through the process and to be candid I heard more than one college coach make a snarky comment about pushy club coaches and owners. In truth all clubs would try to sell them anything and that costs credibility over time. The club coach is also the one most likely to mislead you. In 7th grade everybody is a Hopkins early recruit candidate. In 9th grade they like to mention how competitive those spots are, then they like to start with the speech about how you can help them sell your son by...buying more crap like clinics and videos.

I would also say don't spend a lot on recruiting videos. I truly believe that a coach will want and need to see your son at a showcase, a prospect day at his field or at a club tournament combo. Every kid can put together a video where they score 10 goals or stop 10 shots. Unless it is a tape from a high level prep game, showcase game or club game where you know your son is on a good Madlax team vs a good Crabs team or something like that, don't waste a lot of money on it. Also smart to buy a $200-$300 video camera once and do a homemade video. I've hear led a million times how important video is, but I just don't believe the coaches really care about it too much. They need to see your son play and play well through one medium listed above.