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I assume the player your talking about is not from Smithtown?

The parents with players on that team know who the kid is, they also know exactly how many Smithtown kids should be on that team let alone starting.

2019 must have some very good players on each of their top [4] teams. Why not combine the best players from each team? Cook's 2019 team went 3-1 at Summer Classic and 4-1 at Lax Inception. Not bad for a "4th team".

But what about all the coaches' kids, legacy kids, FAF, and coach's school district kids?? What would happen to them?

And what number would that be?

You do not think level of competition has anything to do with it? There are a number of kids on 2nd team who deserve to be on team 1 but are not for what ever reason but you are talking 3-4 .

I'm sure there are several girls on second team that belong on top team. The point was, there are also legit players on third and fourth teams too. You could combine several girls from teams 2 thru 4 that can compete with the top team. That is not a knock on the top team. The point remains, 2019 has a lot of talented players, that do not play on the top team.

Be careful what you wish for. You're better off with your child being one of the top kids on second team. They will get more playing time. It's the parents that need to say that their kid is on the top team.

Not bad, and glad they get wins. Put them in the top bracket and they lose all the games, so many parents don't get it.

Yes, there are brackets and parents do get it. The point is not teams 2 thru 4 are as good as the top team. The point remains, there are legit girls on teams 2-4.

one of our coaches/moms keeps stats on the 2019 blue. not all stats, only goals and assists. best offensive players are made to play defense--how interesting--the coaches kids stay on attack the entire game and try to rack up the stats that coach/mommy and coach/daddy/napolean keep. if you want your kid to lead the stat catagories, dont be so obvious about it. and i have an idea--keep stats for minutes played and turn-overs that way you can lead in all four catagories.

Isnt that what they do at tryouts to create the top team? Take all the best girls and put them on one team?

That is what the tryouts should be for..When a Coach is permitted to bring his daughter and his daughters school mates on to the top team, the results are not good.

The talent on the Carro team is top notch.Very athletic and physically imposing.Watching them on the sidelines with their coaches they look very tall.

A couple top players from a second team could easily be exchanged with a couple from the bottom of the team above. Really wouldn't change either team much. Those players that once stood out would get swollowed up and disappear moving up and the players dropping down would then stand out. That third or forth team undiscovered gem you speak about looks great next to other forth teamers and playing the 6th bracket at weak tournaments, most likely would not shine so bright on top team. So many parents watch the black hole offspring constantly go to goal and put a few in the back of the cage (sorry bout that one), and can't believe the coach on the team above doesn't want to bring her up. Way too many parents do not know all the subtle attributes that make a player one of the great ones. If there is a gem lost in the rough, they will eventually find her, it may take a year or two to get to top team.

What kids were moved up to the 2nd U15 team? Are they the ones getting all the play time in these tournamants?

4-1 in a bracket that top teams in md would never play btw

Spoken like a true FAF that wants to believe their own hype. Your ignorance is comical, but please keep spewing garbage like you have some special insight into what makes one player better than another when in reality, you have zero knowledge about players on lower teams.

#selfabsorbed

Maybe the coach is very small???

Angry much, we all get that you are disappointed that your child was placed on a lower level team when you believe she should be on the top team, maybe she had a bad tryout, maybe she is just not as good as you think, maybe there are politics at play. Who knows but for the most part they get it correct.No one is saying there are not some talented kids on teams 2-whatever but calm down.

#truthhurts

Interesting debate here about placement on teams. I just told my daughter that life is full of unfairness, so she may as well get used to it now. But in the end, college coaches don't play FAF, legacy kids, kids with demanding parents, kids whose Mom or Dad is a coach, or kids who have been a YJ since the age of 7. They play the best. So be your best no matter what team CR deems you worthy of.

It looks like YJ Carro is a decent team, but not anywhere near what YJ Blue teams have been at many age groups in the past. They seem to be just one of many teams at that age group, not one of the dominant ones. M&D Black seems to be head and shoulders above everyone at 2019. And TG Black looks even weaker. What has happened to LI lax at the 2019 age?

Looking at the college commits from year to year for YJ, it seems like they generally get it right. The Blue players go to the better college programs and the Gold players the next tier. Seems like the college coaches generally agree w the YJ assessment.

Did I say anything about any kid, much less my own? My comment was directed at the poster that thinks they know how kids from the other team would stack up. Please, it's completely uninformed, so just pipe down.

it must
#FAF

There are also Blue girls who do not go to top tier schools and Gold ones who go to Stony Brook (5th in Nation this year). Proves the point of many posters that some (NOT ALL!)Gold girls could easily be on a Blue team and nobody would even notice.

I also think that the unfairness with placements is more prevalent with the younger teams. As they get older, the placing is more accurate.

I'd calm your jets on the 5th in the nation crap w Stony Brook. They finished 11th in the polls, which is about right. Still excellent, but not 5th. I wonder how many Gold players are starters at SB as well. Bench players are not the same thing and my guess would be that the Gold players, with maybe an odd exception, were not major contributors to SB's success this year.

Of course the bottom end of one team and the top of the next in any organization will be very similar in terms of talent. That is obvious, but the cut needs to be made somewhere. The lower team's parents seem to miss the point, however, that there is a clear difference between player 10 on the top team and player 1 on second team.

Way off. About 5 stars on top team and then mostly interchangeable with the rest and then top ten on 2nd team

2nd 2020 team has 10 former blue players. What happened , did they
just become average players

A couple top players from a second team could easily be exchanged with a couple from the bottom of the team above. Really wouldn't change either team much. Those players that once stood out would get swollowed up and disappear moving up and the players dropping down would then stand out. That third or forth team undiscovered gem you speak about looks great next to other forth teamers and playing the 6th bracket at weak tournaments, most likely would not shine so bright on top team. So many parents watch the black hole offspring constantly go to goal and put a few in the back of the cage (sorry bout that one), and can't believe the coach on the team above doesn't want to bring her up. Way too many parents do not know all the subtle attributes that make a player one of the great ones. If there is a gem lost in the rough, they will eventually find her, it may take a year or two to get to top team. [/quote]

Spoken like a true FAF that wants to believe their own hype. Your ignorance is comical, but please keep spewing garbage like you have some special insight into what makes one player better than another when in reality, you have zero knowledge about players on lower teams.

#selfabsorbed [/quote]

Angry much, we all get that you are disappointed that your child was placed on a lower level team when you believe she should be on the top team, maybe she had a bad tryout, maybe she is just not as good as you think, maybe there are politics at play. Who knows but for the most part they get it correct.No one is saying there are not some talented kids on teams 2-whatever but calm down. [/quote]

Did I say anything about any kid, much less my own? My comment was directed at the poster that thinks they know how kids from the other team would stack up. Please, it's completely uninformed, so just pipe down. [/quote]

You still seem angry, I guess you are the only informed one about how your daughter is every bit as good as those blue players. Everyone else including the YJ coaches, CR, has it wrong.

Did they interchange with gold players or did new girls join and make top team?

So player 6 through 35 are the same in your opinion? Talk about way off. That is not how it plays out w the college coaches, sorry. Commit #6 in a class will be going to a top 5-10 program from YJ. Commit 20-35 not so much. And so on goes the delusional parent problem ...

"2nd 2020 team has 10 former blue players. What happened , did they
just become average players" ....

Hello? ..... when the kids start out... there are 1, maybe two teams in the youngest age bracket. Those kids ALL make it regardless of skill... no don't get me wrong some of those girls are good... and some will remain at the "top" ... each year more and more parents drink the juice and bring their kid out to tryout regardless of their skill ... the MORE kids at tryouts ... the more competition ... you seeing the picture now... your super star is no longer a super star relative to the other kids that may now be coming out ... but waited a year or two to do so.
By their 4th year there will be 5 or 6 teams ... Example: the 2019 bracket.
The cream always rises to the top... the middle layer is interchangeable and some float to the top and then back down to 2... the bottom players on each team will keep getting pushed down, how far down will depend on the number of girls that come to tryouts and how many teams they make. FAF of the Daddy coaches and politics as well as home town affiliations of the coaches/personal agendas will ALWAYS PLAY A ROLL... I doubt there is any diamond in the rough in the 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th teams. The organization knows who is coming to the tryout. If they are a stud, they will be placed accordingly and someone will be displaced by the new talent. This is Shark tank in real life. If you can't deal with it don't waste your money.

I find it interesting the only people that still call it Blue with their posts here and on facebook are the F&F and Legacy families. The people that are new to all this have never heard of blue gold or green. Those people almost always are on 2nd and 3rd teams, what a coincidence!

Didn't colors go away 3 years ago?

Looks like YJ 2019 Mitchell had a solid tournament this past weekend. Given that it seems like the feeling here is that Carro isn't all that strong, would Mitchell give them a good game? Have they played/scrimmaged each other?

Not neccessarily true regarding college coaches. When all things are relatively equal, the nod goes to the F&F, the legacy, the parents who kiss [lacrosse] or donate big.

My original post was simple stating there are several legit players on teams 2-4. It was not a dig nor a complaint. Too many look down at their nose at any team other than Blue. Some of you haters took a compliment to teams 2-4 as another opportunity to pound your chest. No doubt Blue team is best. But if Blue is looking to get better, they could use a few more legit players. Those players can found w/in their own club....and not just players on the Gold team. Good luck to all 2019 teams.

There are no "legit" players on team 4 if by "legit" you mean Division 1 prospects. That doesn't mean those girls should not be playing, having a great experience and getting the most out of lax and friendships etc. But again, you all are drinking the kool-aid if you believe that somehow magically a team 4 player will all of a sudden find athletic prowess. Despite what some of you want to make out of it, this is not a value judgement, just a fact. I wish all of the girls happiness and success in whatever they pursue, and likely for a team 4 girl that ultimate success will come in something other than lacrosse. Not only is there nothing wrong with that, there is a lot right with that.

Actually I think have played before Carro always won but I think by one or two. This year might be a different story