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Tough bracket at the Spring Club Championships this weekend. M&D, Yellow Jackets, BBL, FSLAX, Bitmore, CCLax all in same division. Two teams advance.

Don't forget Elevate 2021 had some good games against YJ last year.

As an M&D parent, that surprises me greatly. The M&D vs Elevate game was 10-3 and we had our 1st half goalie playing in the field the second half. Not sure M&D will play Elevate this year since we are not coming to National Draw

Props to Chris Robinson for getting this tournament off the ground. Last year it was not so good. This year it is very good. If you are a high level girls team from Maryland, you really should not have to leave the state that often in order to get great competition. Props to Yellow Jackets for making the trip. The wins and losses do not matter nearly as much as the level of competition. If M&D could play Yellow Jackets every weekend all summer---at every age level---that would be great for all the girls involved with both programs.

Along those lines, the spring program (NYPGLL League) in Maryland this spring was also great. Much improved level of competition over earlier years. Again, props to Chris Robinson for his role in taking that league from 0 to 60 in just a few years and benefitting all the girls involved.

Really looking forward to a great summer of lax for the girls. If we can just get the parents to keep it clean on the sidelines (and the forums) the girls will flourish.

It happens sometimes in a 20 minute game. YJ beat them several times last year with no losses.

True- only 20 Mins. Had it gone longer Elevate could have won..........

How'd the M&D vs YJ game go?

Was a great game, 10-8 M&D. YJ had early leads of 4-1 and 5-2 before a 6-5 halftime edge. YJ up 8-6 before M&D ran off 4 unanswered to win, took their first lead with less than 5 minutes to play. Was really impressed with how M&D hung in there as they usually do not have to play an entire game before it is decided. Was also very impressed by their motion offense, ran it perfectly, cuts from everywhere, patient feeders and they always finished. YJ was a bit unlucky, they played well and it was a great result considering it was their first game together in 2015. Hope to see a re-match tomorrow in the finals. Lastly, I thought it was a great atmosphere, parents from both sides cheered loudly for their side, but I saw interactions between the opponents before and after the game, great for the girls and the game in general when top teams can battle it out and everyone is respectful of each other afterwards.

In what has quickly become a great and friendly rivalry, M&D 2021 followed up their 10-8 pool play win over YJ 2021 with a 9-8 OT thriller in the title match.

First observation is that BOTH teams are loaded with talent. Also, BOTH teams play a strong, physical game, but have the stick skills to justify it.

These are two really evenly matched teams and while M&D has had the best of it so far, these games are a coin toss.

There was some angst from the YJ parents in OT when M&D was awarded the ball on an illegal draw, and the M&D player took the awarded ball, weaved in and out of traffic (and several stick checks) and scored the game winner. The comments made were that since the draw foul was a minor foul and it was therefore and "indirect situation" that the M&D player was required to pass before a shot could be taken.

However, the rule book states the following:

"Illegal Shot (shoot from an indirect free position)
A player may not shoot from an indirect free position until the ball is passed or her crosse has been touched or checked by a defense player’s crosse or play has been stopped due to a foul by the defense."

In the game, the crosse of the M&D player had been touched/checked by YJ players and according to the women's rule manual I am seeing on line, the shot was therefore legal.

Either way, the result is not as important as the effort and the quality of play. Both these teams are better teams tonight than they were on Friday as a result of having played each other twice this weekend.

See all you Yellow Jacket parents next weekend at the beach...you are a great group of parents and your daughters are TREMENDOUS lacrosse players.

TO BE CONTINUED...

Thanks for the rules clarification! I would love a link to that section if you have it!

Good luck next weekend...unfortunately only 20 min games next week...kinda goofy, but less time to be stressed out!

Best I can do is uslacrosse.org, rules, girls rules, high school girls lacrosse, 2015 rule book pdf, starts on page 75 for changes to high school rules for youth games and page 81 under Definition of terms you can read what is crystal clear to me and should be to any ref that calls that type of infraction in a spot like that. Better know how to administer it properly.

Seriously?? The refs also could have called any number of pushes or high checks as the girl ran down the field which aren't indirect fouls or could have given her a free position. It was a great game. It's a shame that a YJ parent had to stand up and yell across the field to no forget to thank the refs. Always a good lesson to teach kids. You didn't lose, you got screwed by the refs.

Both games were exciting well played games by girls that I am amazed are only in 6th grade. The skill that these two teams have is unbelievable for their age and there will be many more great games between them. I am sure each team will win their share.

Those are judgement calls, this is not, it is a critically important rule when playing modified checking, the penalty for a minor foul is loss of possession. Since the defense cannot check above the shoulder and get the ball back, the rule is modified to mandate a pass.

Those are judgement calls, this is not, it is a critically important rule when playing modified checking, the penalty for a minor foul is loss of possession. Since the defense cannot check above the shoulder and get the ball back, the rule is modified to mandate a pass.

Thanks for the rules clarification! I would love a link to that section if you have it!

Good luck next weekend...unfortunately only 20 min games next week...kinda goofy, but less time to be stressed out!

Best I can do is uslacrosse.org, rules, girls rules, high school girls lacrosse, 2015 rule book pdf, starts on page 75 for changes to high school rules for youth games and page 81 under Definition of terms you can read what is crystal clear to me and should be to any ref that calls that type of infraction in a spot like that. Better know how to administer it properly.

Hey, M&D parent here. As for the guy that yelled that...I heard him but did not see him SO I do not even know who it was nor do I care. He gets a pass. Everybody is allowed to let their emotions get the best of them one time when it comes to something as helpless as watching your kid compete in high level athletics. While he may still be angry about the call that he didn't like my guess is he would love to have that moment back.

We'll hash it all out this weekend over a round or two of beers. Looking forward to it!!! (and yes, there are a couple of decent taverns literally a block away from the fields).

You couldn't be more right ,so here goes My sincerest apologies to all those who were subjected to my post game comment. You all deserved better coaches, players ,refs and parents. It will not be repeated. I suppose it goes without saying the first round is definitely on me.
E.B

2021 Skak v. 2020 Christenson...predictions?

Why do these tournaments always put the same teams against each other? M&D, Heros, TLC, Redshirts, Stars, etc all play each other all spring. In Lax for the Cure and Rock the Fields they have 50 or so teams yet the same teams play each other over and over.

Why? Money$$! The clubs that bring a lot of teams dictate who they play. This way they wont face competition until the playoffs or finals. Then they can say our team finished in this place at that tournament.