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Their new slogan: Rising Sons, striving to do exactly what others do! Sons' Parents, it will be tough to admonish little Johnny when he does something wrong and tells you, "but everyone else was doing it!" That brings up another potential slogan: Rising Sons "Leading" by Example.

Parents have to stop living through there kids. Why are they holding kids back? Kids are going to be 24 when graduating college. I vote for age based leagues.

Enough bashing teams lets get back to lacrosse

I hate to sound ignorant but are these people actually having their children repeat an entire grade at school or is their a way they just play down ?

I think they got caught with kids not playing grade-appropriate. Fact is that re-classing is completely acceptable in the world of lacrosse recruiting. So why is it wrong to have 8th graders on a 7th grade team, but ok to have 7th graders who should be in 8th grade on that same team? Sounds so ridiculous! Can't make this stuff up!

Tad, it does not matter. Rules are rules and you broke them and have been breaking them for quite a while. Size of the kid, while important in speaking about safety, does not matter in insurance exposure. IF a 7th grade boy was the smallest kid in a 6th grade league but he injured someone the parents would have legal precedence to sue the league, the coaches, and the other player's parents. Please stop trying to justify this and admit you CHEATED. AB was a starter and scored 2 to 3 goals per game, PB was not so please stop saying that both kids were not strong players and made your team weaker.

I have been playing and coaching lacrosse for 35 years and have seen the evolution of the reclassified student. Yes, some kids do stay back and unfortunately some do it solely for athletics. Others stay back for academic reasons and it happens to help them athletically. These reclassifications typically happen at the end of 8th grade and then the boy does 8th over again. What happened here was 2 7th grade boys parents told the Rising Sons coaches that they MAY stay back in a few years so the Sons coaches moved them now which is wrong. If the league/tournament is grade year then the kids can't move down until they join that class in a "few years".

Thinking about reclassing my 2021 to 2023. Maybe 2024?

This is getting a bit ridiculous.

Plus I believe Pa school cut off date is 6/1, which means anyone born after 6/1 is a 2022 already. What does grade mean anymore when you could have a 14yo 6th grader?

Where is the wolfpack 2021 from that is playing in the Spring Lax Jam?

Raleigh, NC

Your an idiot. Age is the decider

He is younger than the majority of your kids. Mind your own business

Funny thing is that they both weren't good

No excuses. Sons have older kids on their 2020 team as well. They had a good thing going until they were exposed. It's all about winning to Tad!

who was the team in the brown uniforms that played 2021 outlaws in blatant championship. I'm trying to get my son on that team anyone know who they are or who their coaches are?

Strong Island Saints.
i believe Katz is the coach.

the guy from the old wild Katz team?! saints ok thank you

That is the crux of it. I think so many families in various states are fed up with unethical practice or out right cheating- that if a kid gets hurt by a player assigned to the wrong team based on grade or age- there will be lawsuits to follow. Kids get hurt all the time- but if a certain team, club, league bends the rules for themselves- there is an open chance that there will be much bigger problems down the road to deal with. Just play within the rules. If a kid reclasses, then they can play with the younger grade legally. If they have plans to do so in the future- don't risk it- not worth the implications when outed and possible financial consequences as well. A tarnished reputation is hard to fix as well.

who's the top ten 2021 teams for the summer. be legitimate club or pick up team. and we all know they're out there

1. Igloo
2. Sons
3. 91 Heat
4. Green Turtle
5. Bethesda
6. Express
7. Hawks
8. Icon
9. Cannons
10. Igloo B

I like that top ten.

Well thanks for your two cents

I was gonna say The Saints were on the top of the list.but I see outlaws Black didn't make this list either.
you may want to add in school programs as well in this top 10. SWR


1. Igloo
2. Sons
3. 91 Heat
4. Green Turtle
5. Bethesda
6. Express
7. Hawks
8. Icon
9. Cannons
10. Igloo B [/quote]

2021 means all players must graduate in 2021. That mean 1-9 should not be on the list. Igloo "B" is an "A" team and the only true 2021 team on this list.

wait igloo B is A team? I know who igloo is but I'm a little confused is their B team better than their A team that you'd put them on the list? that's interesting. honest question

Saints are a pick up team. though very good together as a team.....it's tough to put them on a top ten list when the majority of their kids play for other clubs and only play for the Saints when they're available.

Has igloo B beat anyone yet? They have lost to everyone they played except a weak NJ team in a rain storm. Heard they lost to igloo 2022 about a month ago. That does not mean igloo B won't be on the list at the end of the Summer but it is too early to tell. The list is also missing TLI, Legacy and many others if you go out of Long Island.


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Igloo B has not lost a game against the 2022 team. They are a new team and will hopefully jell more as a team as they play more games together. They have some good players on the team, see what happens as the summer progresses

I think Crabs have played themselves into the top 10 in NPYLL.

Do Cannons even field a 2021 team?

No connection with these teams, and obviously don't think these things should be taken too seriously, but I do think it's helpful to understand who are the true AA teams, so other teams can measure where they stand.

Cannon Select, MD and Crabs should be on there

1. Igloo
2. Sons
3. Heat
4. Crabs
5. Green Turtle
6. Bethesda
7. Express
8. Hawks
9. Icon
10. Cannon Select

I would say that team Smithtown, Manhasset and SWR would and should be on this list as although people who pay for travel don't want to hear this but those teams would beat up on the majority of this list.

There is no way that 91 Heat is number 3

Says the Daddy of 91 Heat

More like 5 or 6

1. Igloo "Black Ice"
2. 91 "Heat"
3. Rising Sons
4. Manhasset
5. Crabs
6. SWR
7. Express Team #1
8. Igloo "Avalanche"
9. Green Turtle
10 . Bethesda

says the Manhasset/Igloo daddy.

what ever happened to Express team 2 from last year? That team was out of the list, the most up and coming one out of them all And would expect them to have made this list.

Well Dad because you might say they are up and coming! Lol u people are insane. Some random guy came on here to give props to them. So obvious your a parent.

i guess this is an american only list. Dont forget about a couple of teams from Canada. Edge is coming to Crabfest.

here's another accusation from an internet tough guy assuming that someone speaking positively about a team is a parent from the team. i swear man some of you lacrosse parents are incredible. no one's kid is better than yours. omg someone is talking about someone other than my son!? only in this sport do I see this. the jealousy and entitlement of lax parents is.disgusting. again some not all...but most. and yes, I'm a coach.