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I couldn't agree more. Go to Newsday and look at the scoring leaders for the Catholics. Look at the leaders and look for Kellenberg? Who are the leaders?

Sounds like a Dad of a 2017 player that wants to have his son moved up?

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So, it's an opinion. I see. [/quote]


Every other coach in the school is a teacher. Many of them qualified to be a varsity coach. Let's hear your opinion? [/quote]

Actually, yours is not an opinion, it's a guess. Fools guess.

That is all you have to say? I am clueless? You don’t like what you here so you name call? I noticed you didn’t try and make an intelligent argument for your thoughts???

I couldn't agree more. Go to Newsday and look at the scoring leaders for the Catholics. Look at the leaders and look for Kellenberg? Who are the leaders?


Wow. St Dom, St John's & Holy Trinity have multiple kids on this list? I can’t believe how far behind Kellenberg is?

Not being competitive and losing every game is the goal?

The coach may be a good manager of great talent with Express but he will never be mistaken for somebody who can turn an average player or group into greatness. He needs a ready made group to be successful otherwise he's just an average guy.

You need the horses to pull the cart. players have to work on there own to be above average.

I guess it is the coach’s fault that there is only one Kellenberg kid on this list?

SJB only has 16 kids that can actually play. 4 of which are seniors and one (their FOGO) got kicked out. 2 sophomores start and the rest are juniors. Pretty tough to compete with schools that arrive on 2 buses. Kellenberg should be better with their numbers and having a tie in with the Express. SJB has been left out in the travel team cold. But Chanenchuk and Moran like it that way.

There are no standout 2017 players at Kellenberg. The Varsity kids belong on Varsity and the JV kids belong on JV.

Sounds like a varsity dad. Then explain the big difference in results this year ?

Do you really think the coach is not moving up JV kids that belong? Do you think he wants to have a season like this? He is a director of the LI Express. Evaluating lax talent is what he does. If there were JV kids that were good enough to play on Varsity they would be moved up! As a parent you need to take a good hard look. PAL is over. The next year or so will determine whether kids are good or not. Stop making excuse. Let’s face it some kids are not going to play lax in college. No matter how much they play or how long they be playing. There are kids who can walk onto a field for the 1st time and out play someone who has played all their lives. That is a cold hard fact!! [/quote]

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I could not agree more.
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Sounds like a Dad of a 2017 player that wants to have his son moved up?

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There are no standout 2017 players at Kellenberg. The Varsity kids belong on Varsity and the JV kids belong on JV.

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Sounds like a varsity dad. Then explain the big difference in results this year ? [/quote]

The other schools Varsity teams are playing during the summer and kids are playing travel. This is closing the gap. You can see this both in catholic and public schools. The JV team is not playing full JV teams because JV doesn't matter. The other schools have the more skilled kids on Varsity. This leaves Kellenberg JV thinking they are better then they really are. What if the JV team was missing 3 or 4 of there better players. Do you think they would win games?

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I could not agree more.
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Sounds like a Dad of a 2017 player that wants to have his son moved up?

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There are no standout 2017 players at Kellenberg. The Varsity kids belong on Varsity and the JV kids belong on JV.

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Sounds like a varsity dad. Then explain the big difference in results this year ? [/quote]

The other schools Varsity teams are playing during the summer and kids are playing travel. This is closing the gap. You can see this both in catholic and public schools. The JV team is not playing full JV teams because JV doesn't matter. The other schools have the more skilled kids on Varsity. This leaves Kellenberg JV thinking they are better then they really are. What if the JV team was missing 3 or 4 of there better players. Do you think they would win games?


I would like to see Kellenberg JV play Varsity. This would stop this bickering.

Big win for St Doms over Kellenberg. This team is only getting better. Kellenberg sinking like a stone!

Especially considering the starting goalie and defenseman for St. Doms were out after being ejected during SJB game.

Time to bring up those star JV kids!

What happen in the SJB game?

To lose to St Dom’s and they had 2 starters not playing. Kellenberg beat St Dom’s in the beginning of the season? What a disappointing season for Kellenberg. What a complete collapse. How does this happen with the tie in with Express and such a big pool of kids to pull from. Kellenberg has as many kids as St A & Chammy? Total rebuilding over the next few years. Going to be a long few years there.

St Doms win not a huge shocker. Doms was beating them 8-3 in the first game this spring and ended up losing 9-8. Can't imagine Kellenberg coming into game thinking it was going to be easy win.

It is if you knew there starting goalie and defensemen had to sit this game out for inappropriate behavior in the SJB game. That really speaks to the downward spiral of this Kellenberg team and how far behind this team is from competing with the other midlevel Catholic school lax programs.

Very tuff season. Future looks good. Some real talent coming up.

Proves that this coach is just very ordinary and can only win if great players are handed to him in the summer. They need a coach who can do more than just yell and whine. They need a real coach who can teach and make lemonade.

Not just the coach. You need to have players. Clearly you are not competitive with any of the good teams. This program is very weak and has a long way to go.

How is this all looking now. Time always tells no tails! Poof is in the performance of the team. Clearly not a good program now or the next few years.

You guys realize these are the same Kellenberg coaches from last year correct? They ran the table against Doms, Trinity, & Baptist and then also beat Fordham and Iona who both beat some big time teams during the year. I've heard about short term memory but come on. Last year they also had 2 D1 players on the team. You're also putting way too much stock in early season non league games.

As far as moving players up its pretty rare, the school administration does not believe in it unless there is a specific need for the team. I know we will get some smart people on here who will have a different opinion on this and bad mouth it but, I'll tend to side with the guys who have a school of 2,500 with another 100 or so on the waiting list every year.

What have you done for me lately? Everyone knows you are only as good as the last team you coached. As far as moving players up it is not rare in fact it is very common for Kellenberg and other teams to move kids up. "Unless there is a specific need for the team" you are kidding me right this team needs help at every position. They are 6-11 and have not beaten a team with a winning record? Siding with a school of 2,500 with another 100 or so on the waiting list every year. Doesn’t make you have a good lax program.

Nobody said it did and yes it is rare for Kellenberg to move up, probably less than 10 kids in the past 15 years. The jury is still out on this year. Let's see what happens the next couple weeks.

I agree the jury is out on this season for Kellenberg. But we need to tell the truth. It is not rare for kellenberg to move kids up? If a kid can help the team they would move him to Varsity. They have done this in the past. Check the girls team as an example.

The truth is , it's extremely rare and the jury is not out. Bunch of bad loses and will get beat up by SJB in playoffs.

Nice try. Can see right thought this Mr Kellenberg underclassmen dad. It is not rare and if your son was good enough he would be moved up to Varsity.

Holy moly! It's rare!!! Why are you arguing this, maybe we have different definitions of rare. Every 4 or 5 years it happens, Cunningham, Quinn, Kavanaugh all D1 players and we're not moved up as sophs. Girls it happens more because there is less participation, but we're talking about the boys here. It's the schools philosophy not the lacrosse teams or even the athletic departments, administration doesn't like to move kids up unless it's totally necessary.

Kellenberg is 6-11 and has not beaten anyone in fact St Dom beat you with two missing starters. You are not competitive with the better teams. I think we can all agree with that. Your record doesn’t lie. You stated that “the administration doesn’t like to move kids up unless it’s totally necessary”. Don’t you think it’s necessary to move up the younger kids if they can help the team be more competitive? Should you try to do something to change it up?

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Right about all but the administration. Is it that unbelievable to think wining a few more games is not worth changing what you do and policys set in place? That maybe it is not a priority here! This is a school first , and not a lacrosse club, and they treat it that way.

The administration brought in this coach to win games? That is not happening. This team is 6-12 and 3 of these wins come over Holy Trinty and St Marys. Not very good prgrams. Kellenberg has 5X the kids of St Doms and more then 2X the kids of SJB. How do you lose to these schools? It is very clear this is not a lacrosse club. This program is on the decline.

Lost to SJB last night.