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Agree with above poster. Original comment was of ignorance. There are lots of reasons GREAT players turn down top 20 schools. So close minded when make generic statements. Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Michigan, Yale, Dartmouth, Brown, BU, Columbia just to name a few not listed in your top 30...must mean not good players right? No, just smarter!!

Reading the original post, the statement is reasonable and certainly more accurate than your replies. If you look at the ratings on Laxpower, which is where the poster took the original data, none of the schools you listed for comparison purposes are in the bottom 50 except Columbia. The post never said the top x schools are better than all the rest. Certainly very good lax players go to all of the 107 programs listed, but they also go to the top D II and D III schools as well. The point was the top programs at those levels could compete with the lower ranked D I schools and by your own logic of good players could go anywhere, it certainly makes sense they could compete. Certainly the top 5 in D II and D III could complete with some of the D I schools. I think that was the point, not trying to put down individual player's abilities and decisions about where to attend college.

The original post said, and I quote "The Bottom 50 D1 teams would have a pretty big fall off in ability". That definitely is a slight to those lower ranked girls. It was pompous, and condescending. Neither reply said anything about D 2 or 3 players.

So in this politically correct world your not allowed to say the 50th ranked team doesn't have as much talent as the top teams? Lol. You liberal freaks are ruining your "get a trophy for farting" kids.
I'll say it.
THE LAST RANKED TEAMS DONT HAVE AS MUCH TALENT!!!!

MAYBE ITS COACHING,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hahaha. Yeah it's the coaching that makes Syracuse better than LIU Brooklyn. Not talent. Hurry there's a hole in the sand that's missing your head. Lol

So in this politically correct world your not allowed to say the 50th ranked team doesn't have as much talent as the top teams? Lol. You liberal freaks are ruining your "get a trophy for farting" kids.
I'll say it.
THE LAST RANKED TEAMS DONT HAVE AS MUCH TALENT!!!!

The original post on the subject matter brought into question players ability who commit to teams that were ranked 30 and below. Simply stated (although you don't seem to be following) many athletes prefer to chose schools not just based on what they are ranked but rather for return of investment, academic excellence and career advancement. Therefore generic statements of girls committing to D1 programs that are ranked below 30 must not be able to run with the "big boys" is ignorant. Not being politically correct, nor am I a liberal freak, but rather someone who is laughing at your stupidity. My daughter will benefit from her opportunity to have an IVY league education for many years to come while you are still re-living your "glory days" through your children...who by the way is most likely watching the game, like you, from a bench!!!

people like you run to the best, sit on the bench, never play, and are the first ones on line boasting how good WE are. Other people go to worst and make them better. It all depends how you judge success. I would rather play on a bad team and know they got better because of me, than watch other people wearing the same uniform as me win a championship while I cheerlead.

The original post on the subject matter brought into question players ability who commit to teams that were ranked 30 and below. Simply stated (although you don't seem to be following) many athletes prefer to chose schools not just based on what they are ranked but rather for return of investment, academic excellence and career advancement. Therefore generic statements of girls committing to D1 programs that are ranked below 30 must not be able to run with the "big boys" is ignorant. Not being politically correct, nor am I a liberal freak, but rather someone who is laughing at your stupidity. My daughter will benefit from her opportunity to have an IVY league education for many years to come while you are still re-living your "glory days" through your children...who by the way is most likely watching the game, like you, from a bench!!!

Bravo!

That's a ridiculous assumption. Maybe the posters kid will play at a top school and maybe your kid can't. Doesn't make the top kid or parent wrong or an ego maniac.
No one is wrong if they choose a school first and a program second. It still doesn't change the fact that top programs have more talent does it? Isn't that kinda factual?
Not sure what this argument is about.

Than keep out of it, Neither side asked your opinion and nothing was against your rules. More talent yes the only , or most talented not always. Maybe the posters kid will sit the bench. Maybe the my kid was recruited to A top 20. A lot of maybes for either you or the other poster to make demeaning remarks about a school, a kid, or that kids choice. For someone that supposed to moderate fairness on this site, to say my kid can't compete at that level is pretty petty of you, you don't know her, where she has played, or what she has accomplished.

The original post on the subject matter brought into question players ability who commit to teams that were ranked 30 and below. Simply stated (although you don't seem to be following) many athletes prefer to chose schools not just based on what they are ranked but rather for return of investment, academic excellence and career advancement. Therefore generic statements of girls committing to D1 programs that are ranked below 30 must not be able to run with the "big boys" is ignorant. Not being politically correct, nor am I a liberal freak, but rather someone who is laughing at your stupidity. My daughter will benefit from her opportunity to have an IVY league education for many years to come while you are still re-living your "glory days" through your children...who by the way is most likely watching the game, like you, from a bench!!!

You call me a psycho? I never put down a players ability, or marginalized a 17 year old girl because I don't think their lacrosse ability meets a certain standard. That you and your friend did. Go back and read the discussion again, all I did was point out something that happened at one school also happened at another, how was that or another post that I ever posted nasty. You think you have the right to make up lies about people because your a moderator? Just because you are doesn't make your opinion right, and mine wrong. If you think I'm unfair what does that make you? A bully, because you don't like me or my opinions doesn't give you the right to make up those lies about me.Oh and it's really big of you to say you don't care about a 17 y/o/ girl that never did anything to you, but thats what bullies do isn't it.If you care so little why did you insert yourself in the conversation, do as many of us do and roll your eyes and move on. But then you couldn't spit your hatred of me and my daughter.

Same poster saying Bravo! To their own post. Talk about stupidity.

So untrue. I write braco and did not write the first post!

ESM has a bunch of cry babies and every time they have a coach that does not play their kids it becomes the right time to fire them. Big mouth Mr L has been crying for years get a life your kids have graduated

Two game losing streak, maybe you should burn burn the coach on a stake in the middle of the town square. ESM's biggest problem is not the coach, its the youth program. You have too many kids playing and every parent thinks their kid should be a 7th grade starter. Weed out your program early on, instead you promote multiple teams at each age group and make the school coaches do the dirty work and weed them out later. Delusional parents and too many players for the amount of positions leads to a nightmare scenario for these coaches.

Too many kids in a youth program is a bad thing? Are you nuts? Many towns would kill for the turn out ESM gets.

Two game losing streak, maybe you should burn burn the coach on a stake in the middle of the town square. ESM's biggest problem is not the coach, its the youth program. You have too many kids playing and every parent thinks their kid should be a 7th grade starter. Weed out your program early on, instead you promote multiple teams at each age group and make the school coaches do the dirty work and weed them out later. Delusional parents and too many players for the amount of positions leads to a nightmare scenario for these coaches.

Do the math. If the varsity team plays the solid 9th-12th graders, you only need 3-4 kids from each grade to complete the team, sprinkle in a few 7-8 graders pulled up from time to time then its seriously 3 kids per age group you need coming down the pipes to fill the starting positions. If you have 2-3 teams of girls in an age group you have 50-60 girls fighting for 3 or 4 positions. Kill for that? Careful what you wish for.

What happened Hop?

It seems to work at Garden City and Manhasett!

ESM has a bunch of cry babies and every time they have a coach that does not play their kids it becomes the right time to fire them. Big mouth Mr L has been crying for years get a life your kids have graduated

Two game losing streak, maybe you should burn burn the coach on a stake in the middle of the town square. ESM's biggest problem is not the coach, its the youth program. You have too many kids playing and every parent thinks their kid should be a 7th grade starter. Weed out your program early on, instead you promote multiple teams at each age group and make the school coaches do the dirty work and weed them out later. Delusional parents and too many players for the amount of positions leads to a nightmare scenario for these coaches.

coach needs to go. nothing to do with playing time. sorry mrs. h but the run is over

It's All about playing time but if it makes you feel better, okay. You're embarrassing yourself. The whole town, board and team knows who is leading the charge to remove the coach and you're all so transparent. The kids will be fine with or without the coach. But for a few unhappy ruin it for everyone else who loves her. Like I posted earlier it's not the first coach you've run out of this town because they didn't play who you wanted.It must kill you that people don't know who you are any more. Enjoy the next chapter of your life-we can handle it from here.