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Perhaps they shouldn't cut kids and arrive at away games on 3 buses. 85 kids on the sideline. Then maybe they could be the best team on LI. LOL. I have an idea. Let's put Massapequa on one bus and Farmingdale on another. We will call them Farmapequa. Let's see how Chaminade and St Anthonys do. Oh and let's put the Smithtown schools back together too. So tired of hearing about these private schools where parents brag that their kids go to Chaminade and are third string. Choosing the best 10 out of 100 is not hard. Let's see them put the best 10 out of 30 on the field. Then they might have to coach alittle.

off day for the Flyers. would win 9 out of 10 times

Chaminade has a consistently strong program because they stick with their system year in and year out. Freshman team, JV Team, Juniors and Seniors on Varsity. That said, I have seen many of their players over the years come up through the ranks of the town and club teams and their is nothing special or extraordinary about their talent pool. I just think they have an excellent coach and system and it gets the most out of what I would classify are good players. Same for St. Anthony's.

There are plenty of strong schools in the public system. However the consistency is not as great as the year in and year out talent ebbs and flows.

I would like to see Chaminade or St. Anthony's play the winner of Section 8 and Section 11 in some kind of annual All Island Championship.

JVB= freshmen
JVA= sophomores
Varsity= juniors and seniors
It's not complicated.

It is if your a product of Public schools

You are putting down public schools and obviously think Chaminade is great but you don't know the differecne between "your" and "you're" and is "Public" a proper noun that should be capitalized? People who live in glass houses....

Boom........drop the mike.

You are putting down public schools and obviously think Chaminade is great but you don't know the differecne between "your" and "you're" and is "Public" a proper noun that should be capitalized? People who live in glass houses....

Boom........drop the mike.

Would pay for a real game against Syosset. That "SCRIMMAGE" played when Chaminade was still making cuts and kids were being evaluated. Also did not have starting defensemen or 1st line middie playing. Also Chaminade did not practice for 3 months prior with their Coaches which by the way is against the rules but who's watching.

Bring it on

Would pay for a real game against Syosset. That "SCRIMMAGE" played when Chaminade was still making cuts and kids were being evaluated. Also did not have starting defensemen or 1st line middie playing. Also Chaminade did not practice for 3 months prior with their Coaches which by the way is against the rules but who's watching.

Bring it on

All grammar aside I think its pathetic that either Chaminade or St Anthonys isn't the #1 ranked team on LI. How many public school teams have 100 quality kids going out for the team? And another 100 on JV? And if the number of kids didn't matter there wouldn't be A, B and C Divisions in public school lacrosse. Chaminade and St Anthonys coaches benefit from picking from a huge pot. Overrated.

Massapequa has 1 team for varsity. 1 team for freshman and 1 team for JV. The freshman team is labeled JVB. No second and third teams in this town. No money in the budget for them!

Don't forget one key fact. All of these kids live in Massapequa. How about only Mineola kids fill out the Chaminade roster? LOL That would be fun to watch :-P

Where are you getting these numbers ? From freshmen year on the number dwindles dramatically. 56 kids tried out for Varsity 44 on team including 4 goalies. Garden City, Manhasset, had just as many. In addition after freshmen year many return to their public school for many reasons. Work load one but lack of playing time when they could be a super star on their public school team is big reason. Before you read the next line I am in no way comparing the 2. Just like parents think their kids are D1 material they think they are going to make and star on Chaminades team and it does not happen. You have freshmen coaches looking at many kids they know nothing about (maybe a few they are aware of) and picking a team on 8 practices. Some slip by and never get a chance it happens. Not every great player on LI (who wants to go to Chaminade) gets in. That is why NCC is so good year after year and the so called lower teir D1 schools are so competitive. LOVE THE FACT THAT SO MANY SCHOOLS ON LI ARE AS GOOD AS THEY ARE WETHER PUBLIC OR PRIVATE. JUST SIT BACK ENJOY THE GAME.

You act like Chamunade has their pick of every good player on LI a d that is wrong. Not every kid can get in academically (and others is getting harder every year). You ha e to be a baptized Catholic and you have to be willing to part with $9,0000 a year for tuition. Add to that the fact that many good players come from families that just believe in public school, don't wa t their sons in an all boys school or maybe feel the commute is too far. To me it is amazing that Chaminade does as well as it does year after year and certainly the picture is more complex than you state.

You do not have to be baptized catholic to go to Chaminade. I went, am baptized Eastern Orthodox... end of story. Just want that absolute fact to be out there. Do they prefer RC, sure but I can't tell you how many people say to me in conversation that I couldn't have attended because "you have to be Catholic".

Amazed that Chaminade does as well as it does? What are you smoking? Name another school that has that many kids trying out for both varsity and JV (besides St Anthonys). Its not about total school enrollment. That only matters when you can only take kids from the same town. There are kids taking an hour train ride from Suffolk County, not only to be students, but play lacrosse. Wake up. They can pull from every town and promise playing time to those that part with even more $$ to the Express. You think politics don't play a role in who plays and makes the team, as the coaches line their pockets? Only in America.

Chaminade freshmen made it a sweep over St. A's. Won the 3rd game 12-5 - clearly the most competitive of the 3. Varsity and JV play 2nd game tomorrow.

You don't know what you are talking about....but probably will never be convinced otherwise. Love the haters who come on this thread to spew the same bogus talking points.

Talking points LOL

1) They don't have the most kids trying out for varsity and JV? And you are basing this on what data source? name other programs (not St Anthonys) that make cuts and still have 65 on the sideline for three teams.

2) Kids don't take trains from Suffolk? Of course they do. That was not the point. Instead the point was Chaminade doesn't pull from EVERY town as you suggest. Some kids will commute from Suffolk but others will not. Many kids are great players who either can't get in or get in and can't stay in. That right there is a major filter you are unwilling to acknowledge. And I am not even getting to the tuition as a barrier or the faith based education not being for everyone. The point is their pool is not every lacrosse player on LI as you seem to suggest. So your argument is they don't pull from "every" town?? Did I suggest every town? I suggested they get kids from many towns while public schools pull only from that town. Stop with the semantics.

3) No tie in with the Express? Their Varsity coach is a partner in Express. So what? Look at the lineup. They gave #19 (most honored number in memory of a fallen alumnus) to a kid who runs their offense and plays fl$....not Express. They're stud starting defender? Also fl$. And they have had plenty from 91, Outlaws and others in their starting line-ups over the past few years from the Freshman team right up through Varsity. Fact. So stop the garbage insinuations that only Express players get on the field or the whole enterprise is corrupt and designed solely to "line the pcokets" of the directors. Frankly, that is libelous and if you want to make that statement try signing your name to it. Stop with the dramatics, its true. I know of quality kids from "unfavorable travel teams" that were cut. You want to name some starters on the field? I am talking about who makes the team and who was cut. I've spoken with their parents. Its a disgrace.

4) No politics ever played in making the teams? More hearsay nonsense. Can I rule out some form of politics at Chaminade? No I cannot. But I have put kids through both Chaminade and the public school and the politics in the public are far and away worse. You are delusional if you think parents aren't politicing, running fundraisers, working the phones, etc. to help their kids get on public varsity teams Glad you agree

5) Coaches haven't lined their pockets? Again, sign your name before you make such a derogatory claim against people running a top program like Chaminade for decades. There are stories upon stories of the good the coaches there have done. To say it is all about "lining their pockets" just exposes you for the small-minded, person with an axe to grind that you are. Why is it derogatory to say they have lined their pockets? They aren't politicians. No law against it. You have any idea of the revenues the Express generate. You are the one that thinks to say it is a bad thing. I'm just stating the obvious. MC at St Anthonys laughs all the way to the bank.

Nope, not convinced. Especially by you! And your persuasiveness is pretty suspect as well. I state facts. You state how you'd like things to be.

Forgive me if I don't find your arguments terribly persuasive.

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Talking points LOL

1) They don't have the most kids trying out for varsity and JV? And you are basing this on what data source? name other programs (not St Anthonys) that make cuts and still have 65 on the sideline for three teams.

2) Kids don't take trains from Suffolk? Of course they do. That was not the point. Instead the point was Chaminade doesn't pull from EVERY town as you suggest. Some kids will commute from Suffolk but others will not. Many kids are great players who either can't get in or get in and can't stay in. That right there is a major filter you are unwilling to acknowledge. And I am not even getting to the tuition as a barrier or the faith based education not being for everyone. The point is their pool is not every lacrosse player on LI as you seem to suggest. So your argument is they don't pull from "every" town?? Did I suggest every town? I suggested they get kids from many towns while public schools pull only from that town. Stop with the semantics.

3) No tie in with the Express? Their Varsity coach is a partner in Express. So what? Look at the lineup. They gave #19 (most honored number in memory of a fallen alumnus) to a kid who runs their offense and plays fl$....not Express. They're stud starting defender? Also fl$. And they have had plenty from 91, Outlaws and others in their starting line-ups over the past few years from the Freshman team right up through Varsity. Fact. So stop the garbage insinuations that only Express players get on the field or the whole enterprise is corrupt and designed solely to "line the pcokets" of the directors. Frankly, that is libelous and if you want to make that statement try signing your name to it. Stop with the dramatics, its true. I know of quality kids from "unfavorable travel teams" that were cut. You want to name some starters on the field? I am talking about who makes the team and who was cut. I've spoken with their parents. Its a disgrace.

4) No politics ever played in making the teams? More hearsay nonsense. Can I rule out some form of politics at Chaminade? No I cannot. But I have put kids through both Chaminade and the public school and the politics in the public are far and away worse. You are delusional if you think parents aren't politicing, running fundraisers, working the phones, etc. to help their kids get on public varsity teams Glad you agree

5) Coaches haven't lined their pockets? Again, sign your name before you make such a derogatory claim against people running a top program like Chaminade for decades. There are stories upon stories of the good the coaches there have done. To say it is all about "lining their pockets" just exposes you for the small-minded, person with an axe to grind that you are. Why is it derogatory to say they have lined their pockets? They aren't politicians. No law against it. You have any idea of the revenues the Express generate. You are the one that thinks to say it is a bad thing. I'm just stating the obvious. MC at St Anthonys laughs all the way to the bank.

Nope, not convinced. Especially by you! And your persuasiveness is pretty suspect as well. I state facts. You state how you'd like things to be.

Forgive me if I don't find your arguments terribly persuasive.


My son plays Express and does NOT go to Charminarde. I can’t speak to what does or doesn’t go on there! I can tell you that Jack is his coach and I wouldn’t want him to be coached by anybody else. He coaches him like he is his own son and teaches him how to be a man. He has done a lot for us with regards to recruiting and we DON’T go to his school. There should be more coaches like this in all sports today. It is interesting that people will write about others anonymously. They say I heard this and that? Please remember that you should believe nothing of what you here and only half of what you see. It’s all about your experiences.