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How do thy measure up to Smithtown's or Bay Shore's top teams?

They never played Rocky Point,Smithtown Blue, or Bayshore. The team is in the "B" division.

not sure if they've played them yet. I didn't say they were unbeatable or anything I just said they were very good and I don't think they've lost yet. that's all. those other programs you mentioned are very good as well

New Suffolk PAL website no longer up.

Good the see the new regime has it together... Is it really so hard to keep a website up. Just merge us with Nassau PAL now as I believe Suffolk county PAL Lacrosse will cease to be in the next 2 years.

The problem with PAL town teams is that the same people coach all the same teams. There should be a rule that if you HC Football you shouldn't be able to HC Lacrosse, etc. There is way to much favoritism because of this, you get dads who favor their sons and don't see the truth behind their sons ability to play. All this creates is angry parents and a lot of bickering on the sidelines. When you allow one or a small group to coach everything you eventually create a scenario which is not fair to all the kids. What is needed at this level is a Coach who sees past his own kid and opens up the opportunity to everyone. Do the numbers, the participation numbers for PAL is dwindling because of this happening. Its happening in my town and some of the towns around us, what these coaches don't see is what's going on when parents on the sideline all agree on this and the actions they are going to take. This is not a whining outcry, this is something that is building quickly and with a negative outcome for the programs and more importantly the kids. Why have your son or daughter join a team that they will never get a fair shake on? Limit the teams a person can coach and you limit the favoritism, simple fix.

The problem with PAL town teams is that the same people coach all the same teams. There should be a rule that if you HC Football you shouldn't be able to HC Lacrosse, etc. There is way to much favoritism because of this, you get dads who favor their sons and don't see the truth behind their sons ability to play. All this creates is angry parents and a lot of bickering on the sidelines. When you allow one or a small group to coach everything you eventually create a scenario which is not fair to all the kids. What is needed at this level is a Coach who sees past his own kid and opens up the opportunity to everyone. Do the numbers, the participation numbers for PAL is dwindling because of this happening. Its happening in my town and some of the towns around us, what these coaches don't see is what's going on when parents on the sideline all agree on this and the actions they are going to take. This is not a whining outcry, this is something that is building quickly and with a negative outcome for the programs and more importantly the kids. Why have your son or daughter join a team that they will never get a fair shake on? Limit the teams a person can coach and you limit the favoritism, simple fix.

Pretty sure they lost to Rocky Point. Don't hold me to it though.

yes!!! finally!!!! a coach speaks out!!! amen to that!!! as a coach as well I am so tired of the smug remarks from the stands and the bleacher coaches.....many who have never picked a stick up in their lives. tired of the whining and hiding behind e-mails. even when you're team is undefeated, there's no pleasing half of these parents. even when every single kid on the team has played as much as u can play them in each game, there's still no pleasing. I had a parent believe it or not who's is still learning the game and is trying his hardest, tell me it's not fair that when my son gets in the game no one passes to him. They need to pass to him and be fair. word for word this was said to me and my staff. mind u the father never picked up so much as a wiffle ball bat in his life let alone a lacrosse stick. this was said coming off a big win. this has been a great season for us. the boys are enjoying being undefeated. and to have a parent/bleacher coach tell me that after a game where all the boys come off the field smiling blows my mind. I know as a coach I'm not speaking alone. please parents seriously, root for the team. support the kids and the coaches. things may not always go your way. if your son isn't playing as much as other boys due to his skills or from being new to the game....he has to work a little harder. and as a thirty year lax player and coach I can certainly tell u it's at home where your son will get better with his stick and throwing cradling catching and scooping ground balls. practicing with the team twice a week is not going to make him a better lacrosse player. we as coaches will only fine tune what he does on his own. so parents please don't complain or make negative comments if your son is not playing much or no one is passing to him. ask yourself before you bash the coaches who volunteer their time, is my son practicing on his own? or am I just whining in the stands. be fair before u start to bash the coaching staff.

agreed Rocky point is very good and could probably beat both sachem teams

Son, we live in a world that has lacrosse and these kids have to be taught it. Who's gonna do it? You? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for your third line middie and you curse the team. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That the middies benching, while tragic, probably scored goals. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, wins games. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that sideline, you need me on that sideline. We use words like cut, pass, slide. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent coaching. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very victories that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a stick, and help my practice. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.

Son, we live in a world that has lacrosse and these kids have to be taught it. Who's gonna do it? You? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for your third line middie and you curse the team. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That the middies benching, while tragic, probably scored goals. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, wins games. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that sideline, you need me on that sideline. We use words like cut, pass, slide. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent coaching. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very victories that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a stick, and help my practice. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.

Son, we live in a world that has lacrosse and these kids have to be taught it. Who's gonna do it? You? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for your third line middie and you curse the team. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That the middies benching, while tragic, probably scored goals. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, wins games. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that sideline, you need me on that sideline. We use words like cut, pass, slide. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent coaching. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very victories that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a stick, and help my practice. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.