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Do you really think people move to an area because of their lacrosse program? They are moving into great school districts for the education which just happen to have good lacrosse programs. Baldwin has good football and I don't see a line at the local realtors office. Yes, "Lacrosse People" will consider the strength of the lacrosse program when selecting a town to live in. Just like in college where some of the best Universities in the country also have strong lacrosse programs. Some of the best School Districts on the Island also have great lacrosse programs.
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Here's a question I will put out there for discussion.
Is it more demeaning to an inferior opponent to continue to compete OR pass the ball around and play keep away while they chase?
This has been a hot topic for ever and I for one don't know which way is better.
Playing keep away is unsportsmanlike. I have seen coaches up by 10 or more with starters still in game, double teaming and pushing the offense. There is a right way to win and lose a game. The HS division should be broken down by talent so all teams have competitive games. It is not what either team wants with that big a gap in ability.
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hows the lacrosse in Old Brookville or Sands Point? I know lots of "lacrosse people" who live there.
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hows the lacrosse in Old Brookville or Sands Point? I know lots of "lacrosse people" who live there. It's Very Rich
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Do you really think people move to an area because of their lacrosse program? They are moving into great school districts for the education which just happen to have good lacrosse programs. Baldwin has good football and I don't see a line at the local realtors office. Yes, "Lacrosse People" will consider the strength of the lacrosse program when selecting a town to live in. Just like in college where some of the best Universities in the country also have strong lacrosse programs. Some of the best School Districts on the Island also have great lacrosse programs. Absolutely! Right or wrong, crazy or not, I live in GC and know first hand this to be the case (not me).
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Why is nobody talking about Ward Melville v Chaminade tonight at 6:00pm?
Should be another good matchup Dont think either want to jinx themselves. Hard to call this one. Ward Melville winning spins LI lax into a tizzy. Just as much as WQest beating East. I Still dint think WM doesnt jump ahead of Pequ or Syo in regional poles. Don't think they will jump ahead of Northport or Connetquot in Sect XI rankings either. Head to head means something. GO PATRIOTS, COME OUT HUNGRY AND IT IS YOUR GAME!!!! Ward Melville wins LI lax officially in a tizzy lol WM 7-5 Still didnt come out hungry. The real tizzy comes later today. Lots of games nobody's talking about.
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This year Nassau Conference B1 could be the weakest conference in Nassau. Neither team very strong. Who has Carey beat?
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This year Nassau Conference B1 could be the weakest conference in Nassau. Neither team very strong. Who has Carey beat? Agreed, not the best lax being played in B1 this year. Very surprising? Typically very good.
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Here's a question I will put out there for discussion.
Is it more demeaning to an inferior opponent to continue to compete OR pass the ball around and play keep away while they chase?
This has been a hot topic for ever and I for one don't know which way is better.
Playing keep away is unsportsmanlike. I have seen coaches up by 10 or more with starters still in game, double teaming and pushing the offense. There is a right way to win and lose a game. The HS division should be broken down by talent so all teams have competitive games. It is not what either team wants with that big a gap in ability. To your first point I will say 10 goals in a lacrosse game can be made up quickly. It happens often so I understand keeping the pressure on at that point. To your second point I will add there is no way to make all divisions competitive all the time. The team personnel change every year and in your scenario who would be evaluating the talent to determine placement? it's impossible to do as you described. Finally I would say to the teams that struggle year in and year out that maybe it's time to evaluate the program a a whole. What I mean by that is take note of the HS teams that are "on top" every year and you will see good coaches and a strong youth program. If you want to change a losing tradition then simply get to work changing the youth program and varsity coaches. The AD and the BOE can handle the coaches and parents can handle the youth program. Get to work!!
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Here's a question I will put out there for discussion.
Is it more demeaning to an inferior opponent to continue to compete OR pass the ball around and play keep away while they chase?
This has been a hot topic for ever and I for one don't know which way is better.
Playing keep away is unsportsmanlike. I have seen coaches up by 10 or more with starters still in game, double teaming and pushing the offense. There is a right way to win and lose a game. The HS division should be broken down by talent so all teams have competitive games. It is not what either team wants with that big a gap in ability. To your first point I will say 10 goals in a lacrosse game can be made up quickly. It happens often so I understand keeping the pressure on at that point. To your second point I will add there is no way to make all divisions competitive all the time. The team personnel change every year and in your scenario who would be evaluating the talent to determine placement? it's impossible to do as you described. Finally I would say to the teams that struggle year in and year out that maybe it's time to evaluate the program a a whole. What I mean by that is take note of the HS teams that are "on top" every year and you will see good coaches and a strong youth program. If you want to change a losing tradition then simply get to work changing the youth program and varsity coaches. The AD and the BOE can handle the coaches and parents can handle the youth program. Get to work!! Amen!
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West has so much to gain from today's game and East has soooo much to loose. Actually League 2 as a whole has a lot to win or loose here. East wining helps League 2 as a whole. West winning hurts the whole league.
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Expect East to win fairly big
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East Defense can be exploited. the face off specialist covers up a lot of the problems.
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Do you really think people move to an area because of their lacrosse program? They are moving into great school districts for the education which just happen to have good lacrosse programs. Baldwin has good football and I don't see a line at the local realtors office. All things being equal and if I think my kid will be a lacrosse player I am moving to WM not SWR, Manhasset not North Shore and or Port Washington not GNN - just sayin'
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No comments about WM beating Chaminade?
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the issue becomes can west defense contain East offense.
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Here's a question I will put out there for discussion.
Is it more demeaning to an inferior opponent to continue to compete OR pass the ball around and play keep away while they chase?
This has been a hot topic for ever and I for one don't know which way is better.
Playing keep away is unsportsmanlike. I have seen coaches up by 10 or more with starters still in game, double teaming and pushing the offense. There is a right way to win and lose a game. The HS division should be broken down by talent so all teams have competitive games. It is not what either team wants with that big a gap in ability. To your first point I will say 10 goals in a lacrosse game can be made up quickly. It happens often so I understand keeping the pressure on at that point. To your second point I will add there is no way to make all divisions competitive all the time. The team personnel change every year and in your scenario who would be evaluating the talent to determine placement? it's impossible to do as you described. Finally I would say to the teams that struggle year in and year out that maybe it's time to evaluate the program a a whole. What I mean by that is take note of the HS teams that are "on top" every year and you will see good coaches and a strong youth program. If you want to change a losing tradition then simply get to work changing the youth program and varsity coaches. The AD and the BOE can handle the coaches and parents can handle the youth program. Get to work!! Thanks for the speech HOp.
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Do you really think people move to an area because of their lacrosse program? They are moving into great school districts for the education which just happen to have good lacrosse programs. Baldwin has good football and I don't see a line at the local realtors office. All things being equal and if I think my kid will be a lacrosse player I am moving to WM not SWR, Manhasset not North Shore and or Port Washington not GNN - just sayin' you probably can't afford to
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Do you really think people move to an area because of their lacrosse program? They are moving into great school districts for the education which just happen to have good lacrosse programs. Baldwin has good football and I don't see a line at the local realtors office. All things being equal and if I think my kid will be a lacrosse player I am moving to WM not SWR, Manhasset not North Shore and or Port Washington not GNN - just sayin' you probably can't afford to I started with "all things being equal" meaning same house prices, similar education ect. I would pick a lacrosse town over a o lacrosse town . All very good schools
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I see your point but would you actually uproot your family and move to a district just for lacrosse. I think not. I was not able to evaluate my son when he was 4 years old. Luckily I bought my house where the lax is decent.
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Nassau C is a mess. Used to be good. What happened?
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Here's a question I will put out there for discussion.
Is it more demeaning to an inferior opponent to continue to compete OR pass the ball around and play keep away while they chase?
This has been a hot topic for ever and I for one don't know which way is better.
Playing keep away is unsportsmanlike. I have seen coaches up by 10 or more with starters still in game, double teaming and pushing the offense. There is a right way to win and lose a game. The HS division should be broken down by talent so all teams have competitive games. It is not what either team wants with that big a gap in ability. To your first point I will say 10 goals in a lacrosse game can be made up quickly. It happens often so I understand keeping the pressure on at that point. To your second point I will add there is no way to make all divisions competitive all the time. The team personnel change every year and in your scenario who would be evaluating the talent to determine placement? it's impossible to do as you described. Finally I would say to the teams that struggle year in and year out that maybe it's time to evaluate the program a a whole. What I mean by that is take note of the HS teams that are "on top" every year and you will see good coaches and a strong youth program. If you want to change a losing tradition then simply get to work changing the youth program and varsity coaches. The AD and the BOE can handle the coaches and parents can handle the youth program. Get to work!! Thanks for the speech HOp. [This post was edited due to ridiculous content. Future posts will be dealt with in a similar manner] Guess your one of the parents who needed the speech. You think you can write a schedule huh? Ok then...As a board member of US Lacrosse LIMLF and 40 years of lacrosse experience I will certainly look you up and recommend you get involved in HS scheduling. Then you can get involved instead of posting ridiculous comments challenging me on a topic I have decades more experience than you do. As far as moderating goes let me if you enjoy my moderation of your post. Good luck.
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To our friends/competitors at quot--congrats on being number 13 this week! Hold on tight, the ride might get a little bumpy but you deserve the recognition.
WM will see you in the playoffs!
1. Haverford School (Pa.) 17-0
2. Massapequa (N.Y.) 12-0
3. Hill Academy (Ont.) 9-1
4. Hun School (N.J.) 11-0
5. Loyola Blakefield (Md.) 9-1
6. Georgetown Prep (Md.) 10-2
7. Darien (Conn.) 7-0
8. St. Stephen's & St. Agnes (Va.) 14-2
9. Syosset (N.Y.) 11-1
10. Landon (Md.) 16-2
11. Gonzaga (Md.) 14-3
12. St. Ignatius Prep (Calif.) 13-1
13. Connetqout (N.Y.) 11-0
14. Boys' Latin (Md.) 12-3
15. McDonogh (Md.) 10-4
16. Northport (N.Y.) 10-1
17. St. Augustine Prep (N.J.) 9-2
18. Ward Melville (N.Y.) 9-2
19. Smithtown East (N.Y.) 10-1
20. Chaminade (N.Y.) 9-2
21. Pittsford (N.Y.) 12-0
22. Brunswick (Conn.) 8-2
23. Calvert Hall (Md.) 11-3
24. St. Thomas Aquinas (Fla.) 20-0
25. Delbarton (N.J.) 9-1
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the issue becomes can west defense contain East offense. and the answer was - No
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Friends and LV were flashes in the pan...Return to Status quo...CSH in Nassau C it would seem... though Seaford seems to be making consistent improvement each year... Where are all those Friends and LV fans from last year declaring CSH's reign being over?? still plenty of season left though...
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Seriously, is there anything better in the entire Long Island if not national lacrose scene than the Woodstick?
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To our friends/competitors at quot--congrats on being number 13 this week! Hold on tight, the ride might get a little bumpy but you deserve the recognition.
WM will see you in the playoffs!
1. Haverford School (Pa.) 17-0
2. Massapequa (N.Y.) 12-0
3. Hill Academy (Ont.) 9-1
4. Hun School (N.J.) 11-0
5. Loyola Blakefield (Md.) 9-1
6. Georgetown Prep (Md.) 10-2
7. Darien (Conn.) 7-0
8. St. Stephen's & St. Agnes (Va.) 14-2
9. Syosset (N.Y.) 11-1
10. Landon (Md.) 16-2
11. Gonzaga (Md.) 14-3
12. St. Ignatius Prep (Calif.) 13-1
13. Connetqout (N.Y.) 11-0
14. Boys' Latin (Md.) 12-3
15. McDonogh (Md.) 10-4
16. Northport (N.Y.) 10-1
17. St. Augustine Prep (N.J.) 9-2
18. Ward Melville (N.Y.) 9-2
19. Smithtown East (N.Y.) 10-1
20. Chaminade (N.Y.) 9-2
21. Pittsford (N.Y.) 12-0
22. Brunswick (Conn.) 8-2
23. Calvert Hall (Md.) 11-3
24. St. Thomas Aquinas (Fla.) 20-0
25. Delbarton (N.J.) 9-1 That didn't last long, will be out now after loss to Port. Hope they enjoyed the 15 min!
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I would keep them in. Northport, WM and Quot are a push with anyone of them being able to beat the other on any given day. Nothing wrong with having a 9-8 loss to a very strong Northport squad.
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I would keep them in. Northport, WM and Quot are a push with anyone of them being able to beat the other on any given day. Nothing wrong with having a 9-8 loss to a very strong Northport squad. Good fight, but a loss is a loss, they are out! Almost isn't good enough
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Seriously, is there anything better in the entire Long Island if not national lacrose scene than the Woodstick? It is good as long as GC wins lol
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I am not from SWR but from my view it goes to show how a good coach can make a big difference in a year for a good team. Last year SWR lost 5 games by (1) goal (2 of them ot) then their 6th loss was a 2 goal game. from all the crap spewed on here last year you would have thought the games wernt that close.
winners find a way to win.
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To our friends/competitors at quot--congrats on being number 13 this week! Hold on tight, the ride might get a little bumpy but you deserve the recognition.
WM will see you in the playoffs!
1. Haverford School (Pa.) 17-0
2. Massapequa (N.Y.) 12-0
3. Hill Academy (Ont.) 9-1
4. Hun School (N.J.) 11-0
5. Loyola Blakefield (Md.) 9-1
6. Georgetown Prep (Md.) 10-2
7. Darien (Conn.) 7-0
8. St. Stephen's & St. Agnes (Va.) 14-2
9. Syosset (N.Y.) 11-1
10. Landon (Md.) 16-2
11. Gonzaga (Md.) 14-3
12. St. Ignatius Prep (Calif.) 13-1
13. Connetqout (N.Y.) 11-0
14. Boys' Latin (Md.) 12-3
15. McDonogh (Md.) 10-4
16. Northport (N.Y.) 10-1
17. St. Augustine Prep (N.J.) 9-2
18. Ward Melville (N.Y.) 9-2
19. Smithtown East (N.Y.) 10-1
20. Chaminade (N.Y.) 9-2
21. Pittsford (N.Y.) 12-0
22. Brunswick (Conn.) 8-2
23. Calvert Hall (Md.) 11-3
24. St. Thomas Aquinas (Fla.) 20-0
25. Delbarton (N.J.) 9-1 These rankings are based on reputation. I believe Smithtown East is seriously underrated. Their ability to dominate the face off has made them an offensive machine. Very hard to beat them when you don't have the ball. I would put them right there in the top 5 easily.
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I agree. Smithtown East is a force. Their fogo is great. They should be below Northport this year. Let's see who it turns out in the playoffs.
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Don't count out WM either...Beat a pretty good Ridgefield team last night 12-6...
This year alone WM played Ridgefield, Yorktown, WI and Chammy. More competition makes the team better come playoffs.
But, WM did lose to quot in double OT and northport in last minute...so, feel free to rank both northport and quot higher, playoofs should settle the rankings.
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I am not from SWR but from my view it goes to show how a good coach can make a big difference in a year for a good team. Last year SWR lost 5 games by (1) goal (2 of them ot) then their 6th loss was a 2 goal game. from all the crap spewed on here last year you would have thought the games wernt that close.
winners find a way to win. Not so much about being a winner as about coaching ability or lack there of. The new guy has an extensive lacrosse resume of successful coaching. He is getting the best out of his players talents. The best coaches "taylor" there game plan to most effectively use the talent he has. Clearly the man is doing it at a high level. No not an SWR parent, parent of a player from another town that played the team.
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Don't count out WM either...Beat a pretty good Ridgefield team last night 12-6...
This year alone WM played Ridgefield, Yorktown, WI and Chammy. More competition makes the team better come playoffs.
But, WM did lose to quot in double OT and northport in last minute...so, feel free to rank both northport and quot higher, playoofs should settle the rankings.
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WM will blow both out just wait
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To our friends/competitors at quot--congrats on being number 13 this week! Hold on tight, the ride might get a little bumpy but you deserve the recognition.
WM will see you in the playoffs!
1. Haverford School (Pa.) 17-0
2. Massapequa (N.Y.) 12-0
3. Hill Academy (Ont.) 9-1
4. Hun School (N.J.) 11-0
5. Loyola Blakefield (Md.) 9-1
6. Georgetown Prep (Md.) 10-2
7. Darien (Conn.) 7-0
8. St. Stephen's & St. Agnes (Va.) 14-2
9. Syosset (N.Y.) 11-1
10. Landon (Md.) 16-2
11. Gonzaga (Md.) 14-3
12. St. Ignatius Prep (Calif.) 13-1
13. Connetqout (N.Y.) 11-0
14. Boys' Latin (Md.) 12-3
15. McDonogh (Md.) 10-4
16. Northport (N.Y.) 10-1
17. St. Augustine Prep (N.J.) 9-2
18. Ward Melville (N.Y.) 9-2
19. Smithtown East (N.Y.) 10-1
20. Chaminade (N.Y.) 9-2
21. Pittsford (N.Y.) 12-0
22. Brunswick (Conn.) 8-2
23. Calvert Hall (Md.) 11-3
24. St. Thomas Aquinas (Fla.) 20-0
25. Delbarton (N.J.) 9-1 These rankings are based on reputation. I believe Smithtown East is seriously underrated. Their ability to dominate the face off has made them an offensive machine. Very hard to beat them when you don't have the ball. I would put them right there in the top 5 easily. Reputation? Connetquot is not # 13 based on reputation!
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Northport now No. 13, Connetquot not even in top 20.
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Northport excellent season -a lot of unselfish seniors playing great together too bad their senior middie is out w injury:( Hope they go all the way in the play- offs it won't be easy- will be Looking forward to some awesome close games!
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