BOTC - US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums NORTHEAST LACROSSE BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) NEW Kellenberg Head Coach!

You just called kellenberg a dirty Olympic pool???

Classy!

again, No, you did.

A metaphor doesn't compare exactly.

who's the coach?

So as a Kellenberg parent, your thoughts are that you have a talented team player wise. But because the players don’t like playing for the coach they are not playing up to their potential?

I am thinking they meant; although he is a director of Express, he may not be able to get the quality players from his team going to Kellenberg because many do not like him.?

I am not sure they are saying the Kellenberg players don't like him.?

can someone please clarify understanding there may be some noise in the responses.

Name?

Prepare for a visit to the St. Anthony woodshed today.

Seems pretty clear that the comment relates to his current varsity players.

isn’t the coach part of Express? Doesn’t Kellenberg have a farm team like St A & Charm? How can they be performing so poorly?


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Because most of the players don't enjoy playing for this coach. If your not having fun you are not going to play well.[/quote]


So as a Kellenberg parent, your thoughts are that you have a talented team player wise. But because the players don’t like playing for the coach they are not playing up to their potential?


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I am thinking they meant; although he is a director of Express, he may not be able to get the quality players from his team going to Kellenberg because many do not like him.?

I am not sure they are saying the Kellenberg players don't like him.?

can someone please clarify understanding there may be some noise in the responses.

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Seems pretty clear that the comment relates to his current varsity players.[/quote]

Come on. This team is not even competitive. They are 3-9. They have lost big to all the quality teams. You can’t put this all on the coach. I will give you, that St A took it easy on Kellenberg becuase of his relationship with there Coach.

Old school - yelling and fear. A younger coach that can relate better to these kids would be a breath of fresh air. Kids are afraid to make mistakes without getting ripped and are walking on egg shells. When it's not fun anymore, its hard to get the best out of these kids. The results tell all.

This program is having some issue for sure. But it has to be more then the coach here?

It's called they don't have the horses this year...

Stop it already...the Coach yells and all of the kids on the team don't play well...please stop looking for excuses. Next year when they win more games what will the reason be?

Not sure next years team will be any better? If under classmen are not playing this year. Then next year team will be more of the same?

It's funny this thread is named "NEW Kellenberg Head Coach" . It seems they will be looking for a NEW Kellenberg Head Coach if they don't start performing better!

Most well developed lax programs have a good youth program and good under classmen teams (freshmen and JV). Typically each year a few talented underclassmen are brought up either to play or practice and develop on the Varsity team. The game is much faster than JV. If you don’t have a youth program? And you don’t have any talented underclassmen then the program is not going to perform well? The next few years don’t look good for Kellenberg?

I agree this program looks like it is on the decline. Is the Varsity starters made up of mostly seniors or juniors?

Good youth program? What catholic school has a youth program? They actually have a very good middle school team and JV team is having great season. What are you basing your next few year prediction on?

They are trying to be an "express" school like Chammy and St Ants but they have all their B and C players.

How so?

They hired an Express director as varsity coach thinking they would draw A kids.

By not moving up some very good 2017 players that could have an impact on varsity. Latin School is not in step with KMHS either.

But not necessarily because he is a good coach. I think it's time for some fresh thinking there. It's been long enough and the program is no more competitive than before this coach.

You seem pretty confident in the "reason" for hiring an Express director. Is that an opinion or fact?

The Latin School goes to 8th grade. KMHS is 9-12. What are you referring to?

I realize that. What I am saying is that there is no continuity between the middle school and high school. Offense and defenses are not communicated from high school to middle school . Coaching more disorganized at the middle school level.

High school should also move up underclassmen and deepen their pool of talent. Clear now?

I feel bad for you if you are a Kellenberg parent and are so miss informed. Here is how I came to my short term prediction of Kellenberg. The long Island Express is there youth program. This coach was hired to take Kellenberg to the next level. He is a director for Express. The talent on the varsity team is clear. Your record speaks for itself. This can’t be blamed just on the coach. As for the JV team goes, the jury is still out. No one can predict what next year will bring for any team. That said look at the other strong teams (minus St A & Chammy) in the catholic schools. There rosters have underclassmen on them and they are contributing to their teams success. Kellenberg’s JV may be having some success but the best JV players for the other schools are playing on Varsity. You can see how miss leading this is for Kellenberg’s JV team’s success? Playing/practicing on the varsity as an underclassman clearly makes you a better player. If Kellenberg doesn’t have underclassman good enough to play/practice on a poor performing Varsity Team, really doesn’t look good for Kellenbergs short term future.

Do you really think the coach is not moving up JV kids that belong? Do you think he wants to have a season like this? He is a director of the LI Express. Evaluating lax talent is what he does. If there were JV kids that were good enough to play on Varsity they would be moved up! As a parent you need to take a good hard look. PAL is over. The next year or so will determine whether kids are good or not. Stop making excuse. Let’s face it some kids are not going to play lax in college. No matter how much they play or how long they be playing. There are kids who can walk onto a field for the 1st time and out play someone who has played all their lives. That is a cold hard fact!!

Yes. They have rules about moving people up. It is not always about ability, it is about oppertunity. Winning isnt their only goal!!

So, it's an opinion. I see.

Another opinion.

No, it's really not clear. Middle school athletics is a different animal from high school on many levels. You're either misinformed or simply don't understand.

You don't think big programs say "Hey Middle School this is our ride, this is our man up, this is our offense, this is our defense. Now practice"
You are the miss informed one.

I could not agree more.

Kellenberg has moved up JV players in the past and will continue to do so if it helps the team.

If you look at all strong sports programs the youth program, Middle school and HS programs are in lock step.

You are clueless as the day is long...

Very well said. Totally agree

Every other coach in the school is a teacher. Many of them qualified to be a varsity coach. Let's hear your opinion?