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How is it possible he does not get paid by the events and event owners that he covers? Where else is revenue in what he does??

Fair points, and I don't know either. The revenue possibilities here are pretty limited to college coaches, events guys, club owners, prep school programs and to a much lower extent advertising billboards on the website. I seriously doubt college coaches pay for this in lacrosse, but some do in other major sports. The only way this could possibly work is some events guy or prep school program wants coverage and pays his way to come and to cover the events and games. That is certainly fraught with conflicts of interest but is what it is.

How is that a conflict of interest? Works for himself and reports a bunch of fluff. Any different than Newsday or other rag paper? You make it seem like he is the all knowing all telling. Funny thing is I was standing next to him at a PA event and he was writing down verbatim what was being told to him on the phone.

For a sport that struggles to get people to pay to attend its pinnacle event, the college national championship, doubtful there's much in the way of revenue for bloggers. Lacrosse has a very long way to go before it's considered a major sport.

Lacrosse Unlimited used to pay him to follow the TT, my guess is his lifestyle (chipotle and whatever in in his red solo cup)is being subsidized by Mr Crabs and the BLC...just an observation

How is that a conflict of interest? Works for himself and reports a bunch of fluff. Any different than Newsday or other rag paper? You make it seem like he is the all knowing all telling. Funny thing is I was standing next to him at a PA event and he was writing down verbatim what was being told to him on the phone.

Who was on the other end of the phone? My guess is someone who is backing him.

That is interesting, my son's future coach indicated to him he should play club, we are in a non-hotbed and I'd love to have him skip our Varsity season, too many hacks and a bizarre coaching situation.

We are from LI and we have 8 D1 committed players on our varsity team and none of them, including my son, plays for a travel team. They don't want injury.

Agree on that. I am struggling to get some teaching moment thing through to my sons. One is a 2017 commit and one is about to go into the summer after 8th grade summer club season. When I did college sport in another sport a long tim ago my goals in high school were breaking school records, making all state, making all america, being a team captain, being nationally ranked in club version of same sport and making a junior national team. Everyone around me had goals, just not the same ones, like making varsity or starting. Those are all real things. I started thinking about a college when everyone in my high school got a wake up call and college counselor meeting scheduled in spring junior year. This sport robs the kids and the kids are robbing themselves out of doing something that is a real accomplishment. Picking a college before all your friends do is not an accomplishment. I don't even consider getting a partial athletic scholarship in some sport an accomplishment worth trying to live on. Starting in 7th grade all these kids care about is a college verbal and that is all most adults who are supposed to be mentoring this kids care about too. Then after that is done, all the kids care about is trading up or who is changing their commitment and avoiding looking bad at all costs. I wish for something better.

I agree. However, until the NCAA and the D1 coaches put an end to this madness, it will continue to get worse. I suspect we will begin to see rising 8th grade commits in the not too distant future...

I think this is going to be par for the course. This early commit stuff for age appropriate players who have yet to go through puberty is a big risk. If the kid is a repeat and he is signed early he might have already hit puberty and developed. I know that an athlete is an athlete but if you take two great athletes with the same skills but one is 6'3 200lbs vs a 5'8 155 I put my money on the bigger of the two. So now a kid was over looked but all of the sudden he starts to grow like a bean and put on size it does make a difference.

I have observed just the opposite. Some of the kids who seemed to be better players because they were shaving 6' and 180 in 9th grade relied on size and muscle mass to appear to dominate they boys they were playing against. The players who had to develop speed, finesse and stick skills to compete with them are often now better players. Some of the early bloomers are still the real deal, but some have been overtaken by peers. Often the early bloomers end up smaller at the end of senior year than the late bloomers because longer puberty results in more height. Gradual growth helps them develop stick skills 9-13 and speed during the years it is most beneficial 13-16, strength comes later. If strength comes too early it can impede speed to skills. http://cdn4.sportngin.com/attachments/photo/2836/4469/TrainabilityChart.png

Some early recruiting coaches had a tough time distinguishing the early bloomers, who appeared to dominate from the late bloomers who could dominate later, but couldn't physically compete against grown men at age 13. Of course there are exceptions, some kids are just studs.

Spoke with a big D1 coach the other day. He told me we will see a big rise in schools decommitting kids who have failed to develop after committing early.He says it will happen just before NLI is signed. My son has has never stopped, challenging himself all summer, every summer. Now other coaches are coming around making offers even though they have someone committed in his position. They say it's a business and they want the best kids they can get. Looks like the verbal is not going to mean much if you don't keep playing and challenging yourself. Hiding might just get your offer pulled.

This comment was more about the committed kids who as soon as they get that verbal, disappear and think they shouldn't play anymore because they might get "hurt"(wuss)
Not so much about size and development because plenty of small kids Excell at this sport due to their craftiness and commitment. It's about those that don't want to play against the best competition because they are afraid to look bad. Keep hiding and you might not have to worry about that because someone working hard and showing up will take your place!

I agree about the players who stop playing for the fear of getting hurt thing is a bit soft. Not the kid probably the parent making that choice. There is a 2018 commit from LI who is 5'4 to 5'6 at most. He has been very dominant for years and was considered more physically mature than most kids at a young age. His skills are outstanding but as players continue to hone their skills and also pass him in size and strength he isn't as dominant.

That could be true for that kid, but there are plenty of shorter kids that knock down the doors. I was at the Army/ ND game last week, both leading scorers were quite short. 5'5 army and 5'7 ND

Not a big fan of Jones. He didn't show up when they needed him!

The goalie was the one who didn't show up!!

Not a big fan of Jones. He didn't show up when they needed him!

oh stop with the bigger player crap. The best attackmen in the country are the small guys. Just stop with that nonsense.

oh stop with the bigger player crap. The best attackmen in the country are the small guys. Just stop with that nonsense.

oh stop with the bigger player crap. The best attackmen in the country are the small guys. Just stop with that nonsense.

Right away you had to go with the napolean thing. You are an [lacrosse] my friend. Division 1 lax is not going away from the 5"6" attack who can score and run circles around your big kid who is 6'3" and cant turn on a dime like they can. Small attackman will always have a place in this game.Joey Sankey Matt kavanagh Connor Cook Jimmy Bitter Dylan Donahue Case Matheis I could keep on going and going.

Extremely rare you are getting a 6'3" 220lb lacrosse kid. He might be 6'3" 205. They are tall and lanky. That kid would have trouble with an elusive 5'8"170lb attackman. Seen it so many times. These smaller kids ducking underneath these guys and those big guys having trouble getting down low to cover them.

Top Suffolk points leader is 5'8" on a good day and plays with the other top scorer who is 6'3. Say what you want about size, but great lacrosse layers come in many different shapes and sizes