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It is so disappointing to see this year's league alignments in suffolk county varsity boys lacrosse. By splitting the A 's into 2 leagues it has watered down the play so much. I just left a game where the half time score was 19-2. This is not unusual for so many of the games this year. It is a disservice to the team winning and even more so for the losing team. No one gains from this experience. Last year each and every game was a challenge and required thoughtful play by the athletes and creative coaching by the staff. Not so much this year. Agreed, way too many blowouts already. The top teams should not have to wait till playoffs to see each other. This is bad for everyone! The blow out issue is a problem in both Nassau and Suffolk. Everyone knows who the strong programs are and they should play in the same conference regardless of size of the school. 10+ goal margins are way to common and nobody benefits from those games.
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What about the seniors who broke their back to play 4 years at school and get sent in for last few minutes while the parents of the freshmen head for the parking lot congratulating one another for all that they are. that's a total thrill .
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What about the seniors who broke their back to play 4 years at school and get sent in for last few minutes while the parents of the freshmen head for the parking lot congratulating one another for all that they are. that's a total thrill . That's not right, should be the other way around. Can't imagine freshman being better than uperclassman, expect maybe very rare instances. Maybe when it happens to them they will realize why it's not best practice.
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It is so disappointing to see this year's league alignments in suffolk county varsity boys lacrosse. By splitting the A 's into 2 leagues it has watered down the play so much. I just left a game where the half time score was 19-2. This is not unusual for so many of the games this year. It is a disservice to the team winning and even more so for the losing team. No one gains from this experience. Last year each and every game was a challenge and required thoughtful play by the athletes and creative coaching by the staff. Not so much this year. Agreed, way too many blowouts already. The top teams should not have to wait till playoffs to see each other. This is bad for everyone! The blow out issue is a problem in both Nassau and Suffolk. Everyone knows who the strong programs are and they should play in the same conference regardless of size of the school. 10+ goal margins are way to common and nobody benefits from those games. Another blowout just in features HHHW. This needs to change!
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It is so disappointing to see this year's league alignments in suffolk county varsity boys lacrosse. By splitting the A 's into 2 leagues it has watered down the play so much. I just left a game where the half time score was 19-2. This is not unusual for so many of the games this year. It is a disservice to the team winning and even more so for the losing team. No one gains from this experience. Last year each and every game was a challenge and required thoughtful play by the athletes and creative coaching by the staff. Not so much this year. Agreed, way too many blowouts already. The top teams should not have to wait till playoffs to see each other. This is bad for everyone! The blow out issue is a problem in both Nassau and Suffolk. Everyone knows who the strong programs are and they should play in the same conference regardless of size of the school. 10+ goal margins are way to common and nobody benefits from those games. Another blowout just in features HHHW. This needs to change! And another few HHHE, SE,NP,WM stop the bleeding, not good for anyone!
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Watched a game last week, the ball never went past the face off line. The conferences need to be realigned based on strength of programs. 18-0 is a waste of everyone's time.
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I disagree - I believe that kids should develop by skill level - balance teams ends up having top few players getting all of the touches and not sharing the ball well and the weaker players never get any meaningful action and it will drive better players to leave which will in turn push more players out - the attrition rate for lacrosse is probably the same as all sports in all towns - in matter of fact rosters in GC are too large and should be closer to 18 per team - as for politics, go to most club team on LI and you will be in awe of the politics, recruiting and win at all cost attitude that take place for 3rd graders and up - GC is not perfect but it is better then most - Finally, I really doubt that the youth program has anything to do with boys deciding on Chaminade, if so that is pretty sad.
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trend???? WISE up!!!!!
Every year G.C parents have sent their sons to Chaminade . Average is 5 to 18 kids a year . Just as Manhasset parents have done for years. And all will tell you it was not just for sports.
2-3 GC kids on Chaminade J V lacrosse team
2-4 GC kids on Chaminade Varisty lacrosse team that are juniors
3-5 GC KIDS on Chaminade Varisty lacrosse team that are seniors
And Garden City high school has always had great lacrosse program . And will continue to have strong lacrosse program.
One of the issues is that GC the youth organization and parents(politics) and the HS coaches(politics) buy into the "committed" idea at 3rd & 4th grade. How many kids develop after age 9? Right! But somehow the GC system has already culled the herd and determined who'll be the 24 next great players 7 years later. They do not develop the majority of "un-chosen" players early on in the process, thus loosing many of the kids. Then when it comes to going to HS they will loose 4-6 of the "committed" players to other schools. The talent pool is in GC deep but they only focus on the few way too early. Totally disagree. There are more than 300+ boys playing in the GC youth program between grades 3-6, 78 alone in the 6th grade. So how are we not developing the un-chosen players so early on? Please explain. I'll answer by asking some questions... How many kids get to play in 7th grade? Big drop off, yes? Does that 6th grade A team play more games/ scrimmages, practice more (indoor & outdoor), and play better tournaments than the other 6th grade teams? Do you just disagree about the kids developing or do you also disagree about the politics? 7th grade school team, 35-40 maybe, eliminated the combo team to allow another 35 to continue playing 5th and 6th grade A teams get far more attention than the B team or lower. Oddly enough, if enough kids play B instead of A, the directors purposefully neglect the B Politics are rampant. Helped with that point, thanks. If the GC powers concentrated on developing MOST or a majority of the kids at young ages (not just the select 20-24) It would likely help the overall strength of the HS program too. There are many talented kids that don't get the attention in the early years. Some kids will develop on their own and crack the roster, but I think it would be far better (and advantageous) to try to equally manage 2 or 3 quality "A" teams in a deeply talented area such as GC and help kids keep playing longer. It really would be advantageous because after 8th grade GC will loose 20% of the "A" kids won't go to GCHS anyway. Parents and coaches don't want this because they want their kids to be the "elite" 10 year old... which in the end can help with a roster spot in HS. If the kid is part of the remaining 18 - 19 kids from the select team it is almost a lay up. That is why politics come into play. If any GC people are un-Happy you can always move to Garden City South and go to Carey !
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Look in Newsday at the scores from yesterday's games in both Nassau and Suffolk. Disgusting amount of blow outs. It's bad for both teams and it part of the reason so many teams bring up underclassman that never play in meaningful games. They know the schedule has more than half of it's games as 10+ goal difference games.
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C'mon guys, GC has won two state championships in the last three seasons. How many towns can say that?? Most traditional programs all have rebuilding periods (WIslip, Manhasset, CSH, etc.). GC presently has a lot of talented underclassmen starting and obviously not all of them are quite ready for prime time. As in any sport, it's tough to win a superbowl every year.
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Nobody cares about GC except GC. Take it to your own thread!
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If the goal is to win at the HS school level then the formula is simple enough, on a very good team 6-8 seniors will play, 4-6 Juniors, 1-3 Sophomores and maybe 1-2 Freshman and that is it. The youth organization need to identify those kids early (no later then 5th grade) and develop those kids. The b and c teams are just a waste of time and resources, youth sports is not about fun and participation it is about creating a feeder program for the high school to be champions.
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If the goal is to win at the HS school level then the formula is simple enough, on a very good team 6-8 seniors will play, 4-6 Juniors, 1-3 Sophomores and maybe 1-2 Freshman and that is it. The youth organization need to identify those kids early (no later then 5th grade) and develop those kids. The b and c teams are just a waste of time and resources, youth sports is not about fun and participation it is about creating a feeder program for the high school to be champions. Wow, by 5th grade? That's harsh! Some of the top performers on my son's team were not the best back then. In fact some hardly saw the field. Many of the "best" in 5th grade are now playing 2nd and 3rd line if at all.
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If the goal is to win at the HS school level then the formula is simple enough, on a very good team 6-8 seniors will play, 4-6 Juniors, 1-3 Sophomores and maybe 1-2 Freshman and that is it. The youth organization need to identify those kids early (no later then 5th grade) and develop those kids. The b and c teams are just a waste of time and resources, youth sports is not about fun and participation it is about creating a feeder program for the high school to be champions. " identify kids no later than fifth-grade", That is ridiculous. Some kids fourth fifth and sixth grade still like playing other sports. Maybe they haven't even picked up a lacrosse stick yet. and some of your young stars will burn out. Let the kids compete. There are numerous college studs making impact in Division I who are late bloomers and did not pick up a lacrosse stick until much later. Let the kids compete. Stop trying controlling things for your kids. Just let the kids play let them compete let them earn their spots as they go through high school. You might be surprised by how good they become and how much better off the high school team is
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The b and c teams are just a waste of time and resources, youth sports is not about fun and participation it is about creating a feeder program for the high school to be champions. Yeah, why should kids play sports for fun. Let them go sit inside and play video games if all the want is to have fun with their friends. Doesn't everyone realize that the world revolves around me, I mean, my 9 yr old that I live through vicariously! /s
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If the goal is to win at the HS school level then the formula is simple enough, on a very good team 6-8 seniors will play, 4-6 Juniors, 1-3 Sophomores and maybe 1-2 Freshman and that is it. The youth organization need to identify those kids early (no later then 5th grade) and develop those kids. The b and c teams are just a waste of time and resources, youth sports is not about fun and participation it is about creating a feeder program for the high school to be champions. At 5th grader my son was not one of the "identified" kids. Today he is the only one the group going to a top D 1. Real grateful this j@ck@ss isn't in charge.
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If the goal is to win at the HS school level then the formula is simple enough, on a very good team 6-8 seniors will play, 4-6 Juniors, 1-3 Sophomores and maybe 1-2 Freshman and that is it. The youth organization need to identify those kids early (no later then 5th grade) and develop those kids. The b and c teams are just a waste of time and resources, youth sports is not about fun and participation it is about creating a feeder program for the high school to be champions. THIS - is the biggest problem with youth sports in particular, but it doesn't stop there. Putting people into "buckets" just goes against the human spirit.
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C'mon guys, GC has won two state championships in the last three seasons. How many towns can say that?? Most traditional programs all have rebuilding periods (WIslip, Manhasset, CSH, etc.). GC presently has a lot of talented underclassmen starting and obviously not all of them are quite ready for prime time. As in any sport, it's tough to win a superbowl every year. Their stellar youth program is not the reason for that success. Start with the fact that it is a lax town and many who played come back to raise their families there. Then add in that most have the resources to throw money at lax from day one via tournaments, the best equipment, camps, clinics, private coaches, participation on mulitple teams, etc. That is why they succeed. By the time these kids get to HS the parentshave spend thousands to provide the coaches with a top quality product. It sure isn't happening on the youth program alone. There you have rampant politics, arbitrary decisions galore. My son also got completely hosed in youth lacrosse in GC and now is doing well at a HS level.
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when did your son start playing ?
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And the blowouts continue on Thursday. Is there even a goalie in the cage!!
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The tool who said kids should be indentified in 5th grade must be one of those whose son is a super star now, but sees all the other boys catching up to his son and will pass him by real soon.
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If the goal is to win at the HS school level then the formula is simple enough, on a very good team 6-8 seniors will play, 4-6 Juniors, 1-3 Sophomores and maybe 1-2 Freshman and that is it. The youth organization need to identify those kids early (no later then 5th grade) and develop those kids. The b and c teams are just a waste of time and resources, youth sports is not about fun and participation it is about creating a feeder program for the high school to be champions. Paul Rabil started playing lax when he was 13... you are a fool and know absolutely nothing about the development of children, most specifically, boys.
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Garden City with a big rebound effort this weekend against Duxbury. Anyone think the trojans can bounce back and make a late season push for states?
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Each game has a goalie, bad point!
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Garden City with a big rebound effort this weekend against Duxbury. Anyone think the trojans can bounce back and make a late season push for states? They better beat Duxbury....they are a better team. They can win the "B" conference in Nassau, I think it is up in the air with maybe Lynbrook the favorite
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Duxbury is no indication. gc beats them by 10 every year. gc offense may get their 10 against them but...probably give up 12
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It's a high school game...why not let the kids play the game w/o the disgruntled parent predicting a loss!
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And the blowouts continue on Thursday. Is there even a goalie in the cage!! There are shots a Goalie is suppose to stop there are some they will never stop. There are also six other players on that side of the field who should be playing defense. If you don't have the Balls to stand in front of a shot you have no right to comment on any Goalie.
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ding dig ding we have a winner, I made the original post to reflect they way lacrosse is treated in my town, not the way it should be treated but the way it is treated. the HS team is OK but who knows how much better it could be if some of those "B and C" players were not turned off by the coddling of the 5th grade superstars. I am also pleased by all the negative replys it got.
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Garden City with a big rebound effort this weekend against Duxbury. Anyone think the trojans can bounce back and make a late season push for states? What's the story at face off for GC?
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GC should sweep thru their conference even though they are a little weaker than usual.
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GC should sweep thru their conference even though they are a little weaker than usual. Hello Anonymous, I would like you to meet Lynbrook, Lynbrook say hello to Anonymous and introduce yoursself
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And the blowouts continue on Thursday. Is there even a goalie in the cage!! There are shots a Goalie is suppose to stop there are some they will never stop. There are also six other players on that side of the field who should be playing defense. If you don't have the Balls to stand in front of a shot you have no right to comment on any Goalie. Hear, Hear!
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Hopefully some better games today. I saw Manhasset beat Smith town West by a goal. today SME plays whitman-should be a competitive game and not a blow out. Same goes for WM playing conetquot today and then yorkville tomorrow...
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And the blowouts continue on Thursday. Is there even a goalie in the cage!! who even says something like this?????????
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Smithtown East plays Greenwich Saturday in Smithtown. Should be a very competitive game.
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And the blowouts continue on Thursday. Is there even a goalie in the cage!! There are shots a Goalie is suppose to stop there are some they will never stop. There are also six other players on that side of the field who should be playing defense. If you don't have the Balls to stand in front of a shot you have no right to comment on any Goalie. Hear, Hear! Absolutely! Obviously someone has never stood in a cage or taken a shot on the knee. Give it a try and come back and tell us how you did. From our youngest goalies to our HS kids- you've got my admiration.
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GC should sweep thru their conference even though they are a little weaker than usual. can you say Carey?
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Smithtown East plays Greenwich Saturday in Smithtown. Should be a very competitive game. I would love to be in the stands with the Greenwich upper crusty folks when the calls and score starts to go against SE. Those Smithtonian parents are sure to put on show that will leave the visiting team parents in awe....
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