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This is the most inane argument! If you want a chance to call yourself National Champion, then show up at the US Lacrosse U15 tournament. If not, just sit down and shut up.

This is the most inane argument! If you want a chance to call yourself National Champion, then show up at the US Lacrosse U15 tournament. If not, just sit down and shut up.

really, really simple - most of the best teams don't attend. Period.

Better stated, a couple teams that could compete don't. Short list.

Even better stated a couple teams that you would think could compete don't go because many are age ineligible. Again have not heard one person come on here and state which tournament has all the best teams from across the country go. Amazing that so many want to put down a US lacrosse run tournament that is actually trying to crown a national champ on an equal playing field.

Shall we argue the age vs. grade USLacrosse guidelines? Because that's been done to death with no agreement.

What is there to argue, the mid atlantic states have players and students that are on average older than their Long Island counterparts giving them an advantage when playing grade based, when that advantage is taken away the excuses start coming in.

Even better stated a couple teams that you would think could compete don't go because many are age ineligible. Again have not heard one person come on here and state which tournament has all the best teams from across the country go. Amazing that so many want to put down a US lacrosse run tournament that is actually trying to crown a national champ on an equal playing field.

In all the years I have been driving my daughter up and down the east coast, never have I heard a single complaint from any girls team about players being too old. I have to ask , are the same Yellow Jacket parents complaining about players from Maryland being a few months older than their superstar the same parents bragging how the same superstar should be competing on varsity teams against girls 3 to 4 years older because their superstar is just that great? What it isn't is a true gauge of who has the best team in the country. throw out all the cliches you like it still will not make the U-15 winner the true national champ. Food for thought, even if M&D, Skywalkers, Or Capitol did send the appropriate age girls, there still really really good, as good or better than not just the Jackets, but every team.

In all the years I have been driving my daughter up and down the east coast, never have I heard a single complaint from any girls team about players being too old. I have to ask , are the same Yellow Jacket parents complaining about players from Maryland being a few months older than their superstar the same parents bragging how the same superstar should be competing on varsity teams against girls 3 to 4 years older because their superstar is just that great? What it isn't is a true gauge of who has the best team in the country. throw out all the cliches you like it still will not make the U-15 winner the true national champ. Food for thought, even if M&D, Skywalkers, Or Capitol did send the appropriate age girls, there still really really good, as good or better than not just the Jackets, but every team.

In all the years I have been driving my daughter up and down the east coast, never have I heard a single complaint from any girls team about players being too old. I have to ask , are the same Yellow Jacket parents complaining about players from Maryland being a few months older than their superstar the same parents bragging how the same superstar should be competing on varsity teams against girls 3 to 4 years older because their superstar is just that great? What it isn't is a true gauge of who has the best team in the country. throw out all the cliches you like it still will not make the U-15 winner the true national champ. Food for thought, even if M&D, Skywalkers, Or Capitol did send the appropriate age girls, there still really really good, as good or better than not just the Jackets, but every team.

It's like every other sport where a different governing body awards a national championship almost every weekends. This one has the right backing but without ALL the best teams there (1-10) what does it really mean?

The LI clubs use this as part of their marketing and propaganda machine and its usually between TG's and YJ's.

These clubs stick their parents with the bill, take all star teams and often don't play the bottom of the roster.

Parents love boasting at work about how their kid won nationals but college coaches could care less. It is all about the club and parents ego.

Agree, and many of the best club teams who don't go (M&D, Mayland United, TLC, STEPS, Capital) could field age-appropriate teams despite what you say. The age argument is getting really old as an excuse. This tournament lost its luster years ago, but keep drumming on if you want.

It's funny reading the "age appropriate" posts, because in 2013 when TG won all the YJ parents were saying it "wasn't fair" because TG had 2015 girls (age appropriate) on their team. Sorry can't have it both ways

how can the Capital Cup be the best and biggest recruiting tournament if the Elite YJ don't attend?

how can the Capital Cup be the best and biggest recruiting tournament if the Elite YJ don't attend?

The only national championship that matters in Woman's Lacrosse is the NCAA's. Period end of story. Anything else you are just fooling yourself.

Do people know that she owns tournaments?


And I would guess there are kick backs from other tournaments or (team quantity discounts)that she directs the YJ's to.

All these tournaments range from $950 - $2,000+. How many YJ teams do they have? Do the math on the fees she collects just for tournaments from the YJ's!!!! And people wonder why there are 6 teams in some age groups

Wow, that's unbelievable! I didn't know she was getting money from all of those tournaments. So on top of all the registration fees we pay to be YJ she gets all of that cash on top!!! Multiplied by 6 teams per age group...WOW

And half of your games at each of the tournaments are against other YJ teams

Such an ignorant post . It's the closest thing there is to a true national champ , just because some teams elect to not send a team does not change it . My daughters team is something like 9-1 against those teams in the last 2 years so I feel confident once you take the age inappropriate kids off those teams it would be even easier.

Of course they are. If she is running to the tournament she is sending all her teams at $2000 a team. At some tournaments they are probably collecting $50,000 just in YJ registration money!

Is this true or a TG parent starting trouble?

probably both

My daughter is a YJ and this is true. It is a little annoying when we have to travel to Connecticut and play all other YJ teams. We always stand there and ask why we couldn't just do this on long Island. Sorry but it gets annoying.

and yes, it is a big business.

How's everybody feeling about their teams after a couple of outdoor practices?

I have a first year player on a second team. I like the coaches, certainly knowledgeable and enthusiastic. The talent is all over the place though, a few real good players, others mostly middle of the road and some real fish out of water... A lot of time wasted chasing dropped passes.