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I’m certainly not advocating out of control play, but a let the kids play a little defense .... time and time again I watched a team work the ball around a few times and make 1 attempt at a dodge and the defense get called for either pushing or cross check and the offense getting a free possession…
This was two separate officiating crews btw.. certainly head scratching,

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Agree. Too many times the offensive player runs herself into a double/triple team and the officials reward the bad offensive play by calling a foul. I think if you swing stick as a defender you are usually wrong and playing poor defense. But many defenders play good solid defense by moving thier feet and getting good position and refs continue to call fouls on the defense and bail out poor offensive decisions.

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Agree. Too many times the offensive player runs herself into a double/triple team and the officials reward the bad offensive play by calling a foul. I think if you swing stick as a defender you are usually wrong and playing poor defense. But many defenders play good solid defense by moving thier feet and getting good position and refs continue to call fouls on the defense and bail out poor offensive decisions.
The worst is the lack of a charge call. How many players lower their shoulder and plow through a double triple team and the ref hangs the flag out because it looks like the defender is pushing.

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The Huntington coach absolutely pulled up a bunch of 7th graders to JV who don't belong there. The conflict of interest is glaring. She skipped over a bunch of 8th grade girls who are great players and took her daughter and her daughter's friends. By the way, she also seems to take only Yellow Jacket players! Disgusting. She should be fired asap.

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The Huntington coach absolutely pulled up a bunch of 7th graders to JV who don't belong there. The conflict of interest is glaring. She skipped over a bunch of 8th grade girls who are great players and took her daughter and her daughter's friends. By the way, she also seems to take only Yellow Jacket players! Disgusting. She should be fired asap.


Same thing Happened again this year at ESM.

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Anyone elses notice the Ref’s are really calling games tight in regard to defense.. I’ve watched 2 games so far this season and every contact a defender makes with their stick ( even if its straight up) is called a push/cross check and every stick check is called either a slash or across the body.. it almost impossible to play defense


are you looking for the "grey" in the rule not the black and white.

reaching across is a foul, and I didnt think they could make any (Body) contact with their stick 9/10 times it is a push that never gets called?


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Agree. Too many times the offensive player runs herself into a double/triple team and the officials reward the bad offensive play by calling a foul. I think if you swing stick as a defender you are usually wrong and playing poor defense. But many defenders play good solid defense by moving thier feet and getting good position and refs continue to call fouls on the defense and bail out poor offensive decisions.
The worst is the lack of a charge call. How many players lower their shoulder and plow through a double triple team and the ref hangs the flag out because it looks like the defender is pushing.


Worse than that is when a player can't plow through a double or triple team and shoots over the defender(s) heads. Blatant offensive foul. My daughter is not a defender but it still bugs the crap out of me that the refs are so tilted towards offense.

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You will see if the Huntington teams did the right thing after the first couple of games. Same thing happens in all schools.. try living in Northport....

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The Huntington coach absolutely pulled up a bunch of 7th graders to JV who don't belong there. The conflict of interest is glaring. She skipped over a bunch of 8th grade girls who are great players and took her daughter and her daughter's friends. By the way, she also seems to take only Yellow Jacket players! Disgusting. She should be fired asap.


Same thing Happened again this year at ESM.


Whats worse at ESM is 8thgr went to varsity and 10th graders were cut-can't wait to see how they do against Sayville - BBP

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You will see if the Huntington teams did the right thing after the first couple of games. Same thing happens in all schools.. try living in Northport....


Can't imagine living and dealing w this in Northport - coaches should not be allowed to affiliate w travel teams

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The Huntington coach absolutely pulled up a bunch of 7th graders to JV who don't belong there. The conflict of interest is glaring. She skipped over a bunch of 8th grade girls who are great players and took her daughter and her daughter's friends. By the way, she also seems to take only Yellow Jacket players! Disgusting. She should be fired asap.


Same thing Happened again this year at ESM.


ESM graduated 75% of there defense last year - definitely a weakness for opposing teams to exploit

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The Huntington coach absolutely pulled up a bunch of 7th graders to JV who don't belong there. The conflict of interest is glaring. She skipped over a bunch of 8th grade girls who are great players and took her daughter and her daughter's friends. By the way, she also seems to take only Yellow Jacket players! Disgusting. She should be fired asap.


Same thing Happened again this year at ESM.


Whats worse at ESM is 8thgr went to varsity and 10th graders were cut-can't wait to see how they do against Sayville - BBP


They will be fine. Phenomenal goalie, exceptionally quick offense and quality coaching. Should be in County finals again.

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The Huntington coach absolutely pulled up a bunch of 7th graders to JV who don't belong there. The conflict of interest is glaring. She skipped over a bunch of 8th grade girls who are great players and took her daughter and her daughter's friends. By the way, she also seems to take only Yellow Jacket players! Disgusting. She should be fired asap.


Same thing Happened again this year at ESM.


Whats worse at ESM is 8thgr went to varsity and 10th graders were cut-can't wait to see how they do against Sayville - BBP


They will be fine. Phenomenal goalie, exceptionally quick offense and quality coaching. Should be in County finals again.



Why is it that everyone wants to slam teams like ESM and Mt Sinai. They are good year in and out for a reason.
ESM looked good out of the box against a Miller Place team that has talent but terrible coaching.

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Its always who you know mixed in with what you know. Huntington has a deep varsity team. why did they bring in 7th graders?

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The Huntington coach absolutely pulled up a bunch of 7th graders to JV who don't belong there. The conflict of interest is glaring. She skipped over a bunch of 8th grade girls who are great players and took her daughter and her daughter's friends. By the way, she also seems to take only Yellow Jacket players! Disgusting. She should be fired asap.


Same thing Happened again this year at ESM.


Whats worse at ESM is 8thgr went to varsity and 10th graders were cut-can't wait to see how they do against Sayville - BBP


They will be fine. Phenomenal goalie, exceptionally quick offense and quality coaching. Should be in County finals again.



Why is it that everyone wants to slam teams like ESM and Mt Sinai. They are good year in and out for a reason.
ESM looked good out of the box against a Miller Place team that has talent but terrible coaching.


Mt. Sinai is a very very good team! Strong all around.

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The Huntington coach absolutely pulled up a bunch of 7th graders to JV who don't belong there. The conflict of interest is glaring. She skipped over a bunch of 8th grade girls who are great players and took her daughter and her daughter's friends. By the way, she also seems to take only Yellow Jacket players! Disgusting. She should be fired asap.


Same thing Happened again this year at ESM.


Whats worse at ESM is 8thgr went to varsity and 10th graders were cut-can't wait to see how they do against Sayville - BBP


They will be fine. Phenomenal goalie, exceptionally quick offense and quality coaching. Should be in County finals again.



Why is it that everyone wants to slam teams like ESM and Mt Sinai. They are good year in and out for a reason.
ESM looked good out of the box against a Miller Place team that has talent but terrible coaching.

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Place has a decent goalie-after that it stops. A few heavy defenders that can't move and a draw kid that is lanky but not so coordinated. Would not bet he house on that team

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The Huntington coach absolutely pulled up a bunch of 7th graders to JV who don't belong there. The conflict of interest is glaring. She skipped over a bunch of 8th grade girls who are great players and took her daughter and her daughter's friends. By the way, she also seems to take only Yellow Jacket players! Disgusting. She should be fired asap.


Same thing Happened again this year at ESM.


ESM - also a YJ coach. See a pattern here? Pay for play?

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The Huntington coach absolutely pulled up a bunch of 7th graders to JV who don't belong there. The conflict of interest is glaring. She skipped over a bunch of 8th grade girls who are great players and took her daughter and her daughter's friends. By the way, she also seems to take only Yellow Jacket players! Disgusting. She should be fired asap.


Same thing Happened again this year at ESM.


ESM - also a YJ coach. See a pattern here? Pay for play?


Power corrupts...Absolute power corrupts absolutely.... Beware YJ nation

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The Huntington coach absolutely pulled up a bunch of 7th graders to JV who don't belong there. The conflict of interest is glaring. She skipped over a bunch of 8th grade girls who are great players and took her daughter and her daughter's friends. By the way, she also seems to take only Yellow Jacket players! Disgusting. She should be fired asap.


Same thing Happened again this year at ESM.


Whats worse at ESM is 8thgr went to varsity and 10th graders were cut-can't wait to see how they do against Sayville - BBP


There are no 8th graders on ESM varsity

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The Huntington coach absolutely pulled up a bunch of 7th graders to JV who don't belong there. The conflict of interest is glaring. She skipped over a bunch of 8th grade girls who are great players and took her daughter and her daughter's friends. By the way, she also seems to take only Yellow Jacket players! Disgusting. She should be fired asap.


Same thing Happened again this year at ESM.


Whats worse at ESM is 8thgr went to varsity and 10th graders were cut-can't wait to see how they do against Sayville - BBP


There are no 8th graders on ESM varsity


You are so wrong, check the roster

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The Huntington coach absolutely pulled up a bunch of 7th graders to JV who don't belong there. The conflict of interest is glaring. She skipped over a bunch of 8th grade girls who are great players and took her daughter and her daughter's friends. By the way, she also seems to take only Yellow Jacket players! Disgusting. She should be fired asap.


Same thing Happened again this year at ESM.


Whats worse at ESM is 8thgr went to varsity and 10th graders were cut-can't wait to see how they do against Sayville - BBP


There are no 8th graders on ESM varsity


You are so wrong, check the roster


I stand corrected but those 8th graders were on the team as 7th graders so no new 8th graders came up. I misinterpreted the previous post regarding 10th graders being cut. Everyone who tried out was given a spot on a team whether varsity or JV. Bayport and Sayville will be tough for ESM with or without those 8th graders. In fact, the whole B and C classes are tough this year. There are no easy games.

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The Huntington 7th graders are some of the best in their age group and deserve
to be brought up to JV.ive seen them play and they have a very hi Lax IQ. Huntington lucky to have them.

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The Huntington coach absolutely pulled up a bunch of 7th graders to JV who don't belong there. The conflict of interest is glaring. She skipped over a bunch of 8th grade girls who are great players and took her daughter and her daughter's friends. By the way, she also seems to take only Yellow Jacket players! Disgusting. She should be fired asap.


Same thing Happened again this year at ESM.


Whats worse at ESM is 8thgr went to varsity and 10th graders were cut-can't wait to see how they do against Sayville - BBP


There are no 8th graders on ESM varsity


You are so wrong, check the roster


I stand corrected but those 8th graders were on the team as 7th graders so no new 8th graders came up. I misinterpreted the previous post regarding 10th graders being cut. Everyone who tried out was given a spot on a team whether varsity or JV. Bayport and Sayville will be tough for ESM with or without those 8th graders. In fact, the whole B and C classes are tough this year. There are no easy games.


not all were brought up last year - some moaning and groaning by parent made some of that happen
squeaky wheel

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Five 7th graders were brought up to JV at ESM three are Top Guns and two are Yellow Jackets. It's not always some huge conspiracy and club affiliation - sure, if you look for a reason you will find it.

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The Huntington 7th graders are some of the best in their age group and deserve
to be brought up to JV.ive seen them play and they have a very hi Lax IQ. Huntington lucky to have them.


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The Huntington 7th graders are some of the best in their age group and deserve
to be brought up to JV.ive seen them play and they have a very hi Lax IQ. Huntington lucky to have them.


Opinions are great, everyone can have them but it doesn't make it true!!

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The Huntington 7th graders are some of the best in their age group and deserve
to be brought up to JV.ive seen them play and they have a very hi Lax IQ. Huntington lucky to have them.


Thanks Jen and Cathy!

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Five 7th graders were brought up to JV at ESM three are Top Guns and two are Yellow Jackets. It's not always some huge conspiracy and club affiliation - sure, if you look for a reason you will find it.


The girls brought up are great players in there age group-same thing done last year - its starting to be a pattern at ESM-its a small school so not that unusual - the talent pool is not that large and bringing the younger kids up early gives them more practice and game time as opposed to MS lax which is a joke. By 9th and 10th grade there are only a handful of girls that still play -most get disgusted and quit because of politics and favortism

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One has to wonder how many of these LI 7th graders actually deserve to
play up on JV / Varsity. I think most of these kids parents are delusional.

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One has to wonder how many of these LI 7th graders actually deserve to
play up on JV / Varsity. I think most of these kids parents are delusional.


JV I think yes - if you have a talented player who plays all year round middle school can be very unchallenging
Varsity is another matter -7th grade girls are usually not big enough to go against a junior senior girl and can get hurt - there are exceptions of course and what i have seen is the 7th grader playing only offense as a midfielder
the problem is coaches and clubs and parents are pushing to put 5-6 year varsity starter on the resume
are parents delusional? of course they are!

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Five 7th graders were brought up to JV at ESM three are Top Guns and two are Yellow Jackets. It's not always some huge conspiracy and club affiliation - sure, if you look for a reason you will find it.


The girls brought up are great players in there age group-same thing done last year - its starting to be a pattern at ESM-its a small school so not that unusual - the talent pool is not that large and bringing the younger kids up early gives them more practice and game time as opposed to MS lax which is a joke. By 9th and 10th grade there are only a handful of girls that still play -most get disgusted and quit because of politics and favortism



Or sometimes they just find other interests. Many times it's the parents that seem to have the bigger issues and they project their own opinions on to their children. I know there are situations where kids seem to get a raw deal, but to say that many quit because of politics and disgust I think is a bit of an exaggeration. High school has so much to offer besides lacrosse. Some of my children's peers have left lacrosse for theatre, track, softball. Just because we as parents put a stick in their hand when they were kids doesn't mean they're going to stick with it. Missing family weddings, christenings, proms for lax games or a tryout is a whole other issue but I digress...

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Ms is smaller than esm so with a smaller pool to draw from that handful of girls you speak of is all there is

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Five 7th graders were brought up to JV at ESM three are Top Guns and two are Yellow Jackets. It's not always some huge conspiracy and club affiliation - sure, if you look for a reason you will find it.


The girls brought up are great players in there age group-same thing done last year - its starting to be a pattern at ESM-its a small school so not that unusual - the talent pool is not that large and bringing the younger kids up early gives them more practice and game time as opposed to MS lax which is a joke. By 9th and 10th grade there are only a handful of girls that still play -most get disgusted and quit because of politics and favortism



Or sometimes they just find other interests. Many times it's the parents that seem to have the bigger issues and they project their own opinions on to their children. I know there are situations where kids seem to get a raw deal, but to say that many quit because of politics and disgust I think is a bit of an exaggeration. High school has so much to offer besides lacrosse. Some of my children's peers have left lacrosse for theatre, track, softball. Just because we as parents put a stick in their hand when they were kids doesn't mean they're going to stick with it. Missing family weddings, christenings, proms for lax games or a tryout is a whole other issue but I digress...


You are absolutely right - girls find other interests
And don't want to commit all there time - weekends
Summers - all year round to lax- but once they stop
That and just play in spring they will never see
Playing time on varsity - those
Spots go to the girls who play all year round are committed
To a college - I guess that is what I
Meant by disgust and politics -
Varsity lax is not for the seasonal player
Anymore and that kind of stinks

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Five 7th graders were brought up to JV at ESM three are Top Guns and two are Yellow Jackets. It's not always some huge conspiracy and club affiliation - sure, if you look for a reason you will find it.


The girls brought up are great players in there age group-same thing done last year - its starting to be a pattern at ESM-its a small school so not that unusual - the talent pool is not that large and bringing the younger kids up early gives them more practice and game time as opposed to MS lax which is a joke. By 9th and 10th grade there are only a handful of girls that still play -most get disgusted and quit because of politics and favortism


ESM may be a small school but they have multiple teams in each age group in SCGL and other leagues. Think about that, some age groups have 30-40 or more kids playing. Now add the fact that by the time they get to HS they are drawing players from 7-12th grade. Maybe 5 or 6 players from each age group will be playing through varsity. Reduction of 30-40 kids to 5-6 leaves a bitter nasty pill to swallow. That's what we are seeing here on these threads. Cut throat environment, don't envy ESM.

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Five 7th graders were brought up to JV at ESM three are Top Guns and two are Yellow Jackets. It's not always some huge conspiracy and club affiliation - sure, if you look for a reason you will find it.


The girls brought up are great players in there age group-same thing done last year - its starting to be a pattern at ESM-its a small school so not that unusual - the talent pool is not that large and bringing the younger kids up early gives them more practice and game time as opposed to MS lax which is a joke. By 9th and 10th grade there are only a handful of girls that still play -most get disgusted and quit because of politics and favortism


ESM may be a small school but they have multiple teams in each age group in SCGL and other leagues. Think about that, some age groups have 30-40 or more kids playing. Now add the fact that by the time they get to HS they are drawing players from 7-12th grade. Maybe 5 or 6 players from each age group will be playing through varsity. Reduction of 30-40 kids to 5-6 leaves a bitter nasty pill to swallow. That's what we are seeing here on these threads. Cut throat environment, don't envy ESM.


Esm is not a small school. There are 936 kids in grades 9-11 alone. If AD would do his job there would be no issues.

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lets start the awards, best sportsmanship goes to kings park. Worst sportsmanship goes to Huntington, that coach sounds like a horror story, in the blowout, let me guess you are already watching the scoring leaders.

Do not single out a player. It's weak of you.

Don't know what the Hop edited (obviously) but me thinks the post sounds like Islip sour grapes? The funny thing (without being at the game) is that it looks like Huntington called the dogs off in the 2nd half only scoring 2 goals. If it is Islip sour grapes, take a look at last years results...Islip put up over 20 goals three times last year and they scored 19 twice with the O sisters padding their stats tremendously in those games. You also can't compare Islip and HB...HB is a new program and Islip was in the playoffs last year. Take your lose and move on...you are not the only playoff team from last year that took a beating today..take a look at the ESM game!


What does the Kings Park team get for winning the sportsmanship award? They get the EI girl scoring 9 goals agaist them today.
Oh and as for Islip, the girls whose initials we can't disclose had 7 goals AND 5,count em, 5 assists as they put up 18 vs a weaker program. Goals are goals, but 5 assists...sounds like padding the scoresheet!

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Sounds like someone is having a "hissy fit"

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The Huntington 7th graders are some of the best in their age group and deserve
to be brought up to JV.ive seen them play and they have a very hi Lax IQ. Huntington lucky to have them.


Thanks Jen and Cathy!

It is spelled K.A.T.H.Y ....loser....you are just sour grapes spewing your hate from the perch of your computer.... get over it and move on.

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The Huntington 7th graders are some of the best in their age group and deserve
to be brought up to JV.ive seen them play and they have a very hi Lax IQ. Huntington lucky to have them.


Thanks Jen and Cathy!

It is spelled K.A.T.H.Y ....loser....you are just sour grapes spewing your hate from the perch of your computer.... get over it and move on.


K.A.T.H.YJ

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Can anyone touch Mt Sinai? How will Northport be?


Lets see, Bayport beat them last year. Bayport is likely stronger this year and Mt. Sinai is weaker from the graduating stand point. Do you not remember how last year ended?


Could not agree more , how is it a team that looses its goalie and its best offensive player is favored over a team that beat them last time they played and has gotten better. BBP by 5.



Final score today was Mt Sinai 14 BBP 7...so much for BBP by 5!

In another big game, ESM beat Hauppauge 10-8

Both of these games could be playoff games in May.

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