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Please take your chaminade (king of all things) conversation elsewhere. It has no place on a lax site, lets get back to lax.

St A's academics are as good if not better and their football and lax is always better.

I agree take it out of here. no one gives a rats [lacrosse]

Overall the curriculum is weak at Chaminade. They create a rigorous schedule but its not challenging at all and does in no way prepare you for the rigorous college curriculum you face at some the elite schools. Many students who take AP in public schools will actually be using the same text books as they do in college. There are plenty of schools on LI that offer a much more difficult and advanced education experience. Jericho, Manhasset, Wheatly, Syosset, and Great Neck South, and CSH just to name a few. Look at graduating class and the numbers that go to Ivy and Elite institutions. Remember they are working with the pool of students that is dealt them based on the boundaries of their borders. Unlike the Catholics like Chaminade that have the luxury of having students from all over attend. Chaminade isn't for everyone and either are publics. To stand on a podium and try and preach how elite your school just exposes and allows for people to use facts and data to back up what they are saying.

Anyone who believes that their academics is better is a parent of a student who goes there. As a former student of St A I can assure you that they are more concerned with the sports program. There's nothing wrong with that. You just need to be properly informed before you attend

you fail to mention the kids who do not pass the test but after after a quick parent call are somehow magically accepted to the call..happens for a FACT..the holier than thou mantra is an illusion at best

Do you know how to get a St. A's grad off of your front porch?

An oldie but goodie...Pay for the pizza...

Ok. Enough with Chaminade and SA. They are both great and alway will be. Let's move onto other topics. There's dozens of other schools .

Games Canceled for tomorrow yet?????

Today's game was just canceled.

I completely disagree with your "There's nothing wrong with that" conclusion. It's supposed to be an academic instituion first and foremost, not a sports academy ala IMG. If what you say is true about the priority of sports over academics, then there is everything wrong about that.

There are no other schools - everything else is "noise" if your kid goes to St. A's or Chaminade.

I think Chaminade produces perfectly average young men

Last winter I watched Sayville not beat WI. I don't think the score was even close. WI does field a B team. My be they beat the B team.

What else would an average man say. It's not a matter of if you go to college, it's where you go to college. Can't say that about half the public schools on the island. Ours is vamping up its vocational courses for that reason alone. Nothing wrong with either but I beg to differ on the average remark. Most of them are above average academically.

Eh. Seen better, seen worse. Nothing special. Plenty of better schools on the Island - athletically and academically.

you obviously haven't seen much. Nothing beats Chaminade academically but you can keep telling yourself that.

what's better than Chaminade academically?

We all get it. You love Chaminade. Feel free to start a Chaminade thread and talk it up all you want. This thread will get back to the 2015 Boys lacrosse season.

I beat you to it. Chaminade has it's own dedicated thread. Take your Flyers conversations there.

Quite honestly, most Catholic schools are weak academically. Inflated GPAs with weak SATs show that. Give lip service to academics, but put money behind sports.

A public school guy, but Chaminade is a great school. For anyone to say their academics is weak is jealous or just doesn't know what they are talking about. Every boy and I mean every boy that I know that went to Chaminade was a great kid. Not to say that there are not bad apples that went through there, but all the kids that I know personally were great kids.

I know less kids that went to St. Anthony's (not all of them were on the same level as the kids I know that went to Chaminade) but for what it is worth I had a cousin that transfered from Huntingon to St. A's than back to Huntington. She told me there was the same problems at St. As that there was at Huntington and her classes at Huntington were harder and more rigorous.

I think we are lucky on Long Island that most of our public schools have the offerings of a great education. It is really you get what you put into it.

No one is saying anything about the quality of the young men. Its the quality of the education that is lacking. No jealousy here. My son is on the track to attend an Ivy on academics alone and yes from a public school. As for not knowing what I am talking about, I can actually give you facts and data to back what I am saying.

Its not about trying to defend the decision of sending my child to an institution that has inferior academics like many parents of Chaminade students do. Its about making those who are constantly preaching how good their school is without facts understand that the school their child attends is not infallible and Ivory towers do come tumbling down.

With staggeringly low acceptance rates at the Ivys, I don't think anyone can say they are on track to go to an Ivy. Plenty of straight A, perfect SATs get rejected.

Actually someone can say they are on track if they have sat in front of admissions director and an academic adviser and taken their PSAT as a freshman to create an AI. Happens a lot and those who are in the process can attest to it.

You said academics only. Why would an ivy admissions officer speak with an underclass man about AI?

Duh, maybe the kid is a standout lax player that the coach is recruiting.

To clarify my earlier comment, my kid is in the process with a few Ivys and has had the AI conversation. So I'm familiar with the athlete/academic connection at those schools. But I wouldn't say my kid is on track "on academics alone" when I know that athletics is giving them an edge. When I read the original comment l took it to mean "my kid can get into Ivys without any athletic edge" and my point was with admit rates hovering near 10% for traditional applicants - that's not a realistic statement.

Guess you never have been involved in the process. As for my son's academics they are higher than a 4.0 and include many honors classes. Academically he is on track to attend an Ivy or even a NESCAC. What is so difficult about that. We have many friends who's children have attended elite schools and we have modeled the path my son is on after their children's. It helps he is an excellent lacrosse player so the process has been accelerated.

At the One Love Foundation Tournament on the St. Paul's campus in Maryland Garden City beats #12 ranked St. Paul's 12-11 in a hard fought back and forth battle in Maryland. Great job GC.

This post occurred at about the same time as your explanation to first hand knowledge of the process. I should have been clearer on the fact that lacrosse is in the mix regarding his admissions process.

That's my exact point. I am deep in the process at similar schools so I know very well what you are talking about. But I would never boast that my child is "on track for academics alone" when I know they are getting better treatment because of their athletics. I know too many non-recruits with great academic stats who get denied. IMO to not acknowledge the advantage an athlete with good grades has is a disservice to those kids.

Just saw your post. Seems like we r in agreement. Best of luck to your kid. Hope they get their dream school and can enjoy the rest of their high school career. I'm sure he's earned it!

Rejection rate sky rockets, especially if your a White or Asian male. Ivies are all about race. It trumps everything. Best and brightest do not get in.

the repression of the white male has gone on for too long - hang in there you white males, we shall overcome some day

Manhasset down by 1 to Boys Latin 5 to 4 at the start of 2nd half.

Spot on. Set loses to boys Latin. Can't win the quality games. Move Tyler Dunne back to lefty attack where he'll score 4 or 5 goals a game. He's being wasted at middle.

Manhasset loses to Boys Latin 8 to 6. That's not bad since BL is considered one the best boys teams in the country

BL way down this year. However, I do respect Manhasset for playing them, the game was not a blowout and although BL is no Haveford, the close score is definitely telling that Manhasset has a good team.

Any other scores today or were most games cancelled ? Wm-Chaminade, Smithtown East-Locust Valley, etc.