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How is this not National News:

http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/um...ening-kill-freshmen-teammates/2015/03/14

If the accusations are true then the situation at UMBC is completely unacceptable. However, I think we have learned from the Duke scandal that sometimes everything we read or see on the news may not be true. I hope the investigation concludes soon and action by the administration taken accordingly.

I met Tony Giro back when my daughter was being recruited... Seemed like a straight shooter. Sorry he has to deal with this bs.

I hope the program is able to endure. It wasn't a fit for my daughter but is good for many. Good luck!

Looking beyond LI teams, looks like the stranglehold on the top five for so many years is starting to unravel. Maryland strong as ever, cuse starting to stumble. Florida, NW and NC showing considerable weakness, Duke rising. Other than MD the gap seems to be closing.

UNC showing considerable weakness?? I would say they are the clear number 2 behind MD.

You also failed to mention BC's rise. BC, btw, has one of the best freshmen in the country who hasn't stepped on the field yet because she also happens to be one of the best freshman hockey players in the country.

In reality, there is some shuffling around in the top 5/7, but not too much new blood at the top of the rankings. As far as NW goes, for them it is a rebuilding year, which is still top ten but boy do their freshman look good.

UNC beat Towson in double OT. Towson barely beat Monmouth early in the season... I say there is room for debate in who is #2...

With more big name programs coming on line every year, the college scene is being diluted just like club programs.

The same thing has happened in Men's pro sports when they have expanded their team counts.

Championship uncertainty is great for all sports

Who?
UMBC

When?
When they have enough players to field a team and a head coach.

very detailed article about the UMBC women's program -

http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/um...ening-kill-freshmen-teammates/2015/03/14

The death threats may have been "text talk" but it sounds like the upper class man were intentionally trying to hurt the freshman in practice

this is an abc afternoon special.

Noone these days can just say let it go. How dumb can they be? I hop ethis is a lesson for all kids. Social media is a [lacrosse].

Where they meant it or not (not saying one way or the other). You just cant do that any more. You need to be careful with your figure of speech.

Are you implying that the President of UMBC, the AD, Student Affairs staff, and the Coach should just "let it go"? Are you kidding me? Suppose that was your daughter being harassed, bullied, threatened and injured by a teammate. Would, you want them to just "let it go?" It was not a"figure of speech". These were blatant threats. Do you think that gang of girls in McDonald's in NY this week that attacked a complete stranger were just kidding? Unfortunately nowadays there are no boundaries and people often act on what, in the past, may have been innocent talk.

Are you implying that the President of UMBC, the AD, Student Affairs staff, and the Coach should just "let it go"? Are you kidding me? Suppose that was your daughter being harassed, bullied, threatened and injured by a teammate. Would, you want them to just "let it go?" It was not a"figure of speech". These were blatant threats. Do you think that gang of girls in McDonald's in NY this week that attacked a complete stranger were just kidding? Unfortunately nowadays there are no boundaries and people often act on what, in the past, may have been innocent talk.

No, what I was implying was how dumb can the girls be for doing this. If they didn't know then, they and others behind them will know how serious this stuff is to be taken.

I will say, I was not on campus or at practices to see how the girls reacted to each other to know the severity of this. But that unfortunately doesn't matter.

I am in favor of regardless of your skill you still need to respect the upper classmen. and yes, freshman need to earn for their space. I am not saying they get abused. But this society in general has lost sight of many things.

I put on the boys site a few weeks ago, I am in favor of the underclassmen shoveling the fields of snow I have one. Someone called it abuse. I am not sure where respect and working for things and someone calling it abuse ends.

I played college sports, as a freshman/Soph/Jr/Sr you hated some and you loved some others. Some for good reason other for stupid. Yes you always played a little harder for those you didn't like and let up when you could a little for those you liked. but, We didn't have cell phones or computers/ipad/iphone with apps with email and snap chat and stuff. We said, some wrote it on paper(if you were foolish). Now the stuff stays around forever. if you even meant a gesture in a moment of anger not to be taken out of context outside my circle of friends.. or a true threat you need to live

Not condoning what they did because I don't know the true situation. but times are different and I guess we all have to be a bit more on guard and cautious in this very litigious and wha wha society we now live in.

YOU my friend is what is wrong with society today.
These were words typed in a group text format. No one was injured and no one murdered anyone. As a former college athlete I wanted to beat the crap out of team mates and coaches all the time. As did they. We talked about it when we were pissed off. We constantly told our competitors we were going to rip off their heads or break their arms. It happens all the time in sports and there is nothing wrong with it.
SHOULD WE ALL JOIN YOUR PEANUT ALERGY CLUB AND CANCEL ALL SPORTS AND HANG ALL THE COACHES AND ADs??!
This is all ridiculous. The players should have been spoken to by the coach and AD and that's it!!!!!
It's the NPR listening global warming freaks that cause all this hysteria. Bet you all never played a day of sports in your life either. Your all a bunch of inhaler sucking hypochondriacs that need to shut up.

YOU my friend is what is wrong with society today.
These were words typed in a group text format. No one was injured and no one murdered anyone. As a former college athlete I wanted to beat the crap out of team mates and coaches all the time. As did they. We talked about it when we were pissed off. We constantly told our competitors we were going to rip off their heads or break their arms. It happens all the time in sports and there is nothing wrong with it.
SHOULD WE ALL JOIN YOUR PEANUT ALERGY CLUB AND CANCEL ALL SPORTS AND HANG ALL THE COACHES AND ADs??!
This is all ridiculous. The players should have been spoken to by the coach and AD and that's it!!!!!
It's the NPR listening global warming freaks that cause all this hysteria. Bet you all never played a day of sports in your life either. Your all a bunch of inhaler sucking hypochondriacs that need to shut up.

GREAT POST!! Wish more people would stand up up the MINORITY of over reactive idiots. You would think they were never young once. I say the judgmental asses calling for suspensions and firings need to shut up. Pray their kid doesn't make a mistake and get hung for it. They will be the first ones at the yacht club asking the judge for a favor.

The current top 20-

Maryland (20) 7-0
2 North Carolina 8-1
3 Boston College 8-0
4 Duke 9-0
5 Syracuse 7-2
6 Florida 6-3
7 Northwestern 4-2
8 Virginia 4-4
9 Stanford 4-0
10 Louisville 5-2
11 Penn State 5-2
12 James Madison 7-1
13 Princeton 4-1
14 Penn 6-0 160
15 Ohio State 7-1
16 Loyola Maryland
17 Stony Brook 5-0
18 Notre Dame 4-4
19 Johns Hopkins 4-2
20 Albany 5-1

"YOU my friend is what is wrong with society today.
These were words typed in a group text format. No one was injured and no one murdered anyone. As a former college athlete I wanted to beat the crap out of team mates and coaches all the time. As did they. We talked about it when we were pissed off. We constantly told our competitors we were going to rip off their heads or break their arms. It happens all the time in sports and there is nothing wrong with it.
SHOULD WE ALL JOIN YOUR PEANUT ALERGY CLUB AND CANCEL ALL SPORTS AND HANG ALL THE COACHES AND ADs??!
This is all ridiculous. The players should have been spoken to by the coach and AD and that's it!!!!!
It's the NPR listening global warming freaks that cause all this hysteria. Bet you all never played a day of sports in your life either. Your all a bunch of inhaler sucking hypochondriacs that need to shut up."

You sound exactly like the type of bully my friends and I from the wrestling team would dismantle for being the fake tuff guys they tried to act like. I guess if someone threatens to hurt or kill or rape your daughter you will do nothing about it until it actually happens, real smart move.

To the guy that wrote the post below I would say first, learn how to post. Takes a first grade education to figure it out so maybe next time you'll get it. Second, when you wrestled in HS I doubt you dismantled anyone except maybe your team mate from his tights. Third, you can stop rolling around with guys half naked...it was ok when you wrestled in HS but now it's just inappropriate. Lastly, no one was raped, beaten or killed. They are kids who said things every kid has said to someone when they were angry at least once in their lives. Remember Mr. Tough Internet Rob Lowe....no more tights!!!

This is Tough Internet Rob Lowe's post...
"You sound exactly like the type of bully my friends and I from the wrestling team would dismantle for being the fake tuff guys they tried to act like. I guess if someone threatens to hurt or kill or rape your daughter you will do nothing about it until it actually happens, real smart move."

Okay I did not wrestle in college but in this case I will take the ex wrestler against the blowhard tuff guy. That being said I think what he may have meant was you seem to be saying it was just words and no one got physically hurt, what he is saying is if you wait until their threats become actions then you are an idiot. I agree w the wrestler , tights or not. Also I like the way he posted it with the post he is responding to first. Feel free to go visit any MMA facility and express your feelings about wrestling Mr. Anti politically correct tuff guy.

Points #3 were equally important so it's a tie.

Still think you are off base. Reading behind the lines you think it is OK for freshmen to do menial tasks simply because they are freshmen. They earned their spot, not by shoveling snow, but by being recruited!!! The best players should take the field, regardless of what class they are in. "wha wha" society? When you make a comment like that it sounds like you think everyone is overreacting. You are basically saying that it is only wrong because we live in a litigious society and they got caught, not actually for what they did. People like you need to stay away from sports and children.

To the guy that wrote the post below I would say first, learn how to post. Takes a first grade education to figure it out so maybe next time you'll get it. Second, when you wrestled in HS I doubt you dismantled anyone except maybe your team mate from his tights. Third, you can stop rolling around with guys half naked...it was ok when you wrestled in HS but now it's just inappropriate. Lastly, no one was raped, beaten or killed. They are kids who said things every kid has said to someone when they were angry at least once in their lives. Remember Mr. Tough Internet Rob Lowe....no more tights!!!

This is Tough Internet Rob Lowe's post...
"You sound exactly like the type of bully my friends and I from the wrestling team would dismantle for being the fake tuff guys they tried to act like. I guess if someone threatens to hurt or kill or rape your daughter you will do nothing about it until it actually happens, real smart move."

Thanks for telling us in your original post that you were a former college athlete, no one but you actually is impressed or cares. As for the rolling around with half naked men you must have gotten confused with all the concussions from your distinguished college athletic career , those memories are from when your dad was the Boy Scout leader . Your last post about knowing your place tells me all I need to know about you . Let me guess former football player who now manhandles his wife.

Maybe I need to stay away from children, but true players no. You my friend need to stay away from sports. Stick and Stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgMVMaK1NnY

yes I believe underclassmen whether they start or not still need to earn their keep. Yes, they earn playing time by their play. But there is more to a team than the game. I guess singing on the tables in-front of everyone in the student café is wrong too. Menial tasks like shoveling or emotional embarrassing moments like singing bonds freshman to upper classmen and gives the TEAM memories of a life-time

I read the article and from reading yes I thought it was an over reaction, very f'd up, but over reaction none the less. There is definitely more to it. If you ever played high level competitive sports you had these (kill a player or coach) thoughts too. but a true athlete eventually respects their opponent coach.

I do not know more than I read. So I do not know the situation. I am sure there is more. But where has the toughness in sports gone!!!

Remember underclassmen push upper classmen not to be complacent; and upperclassmen push underclassmen to play their best so they see the field. They may not see eye to eye but each need to respect each other while knowing each others place.

So where is the recognition for SB taking down FL, as you stated very telling and a great win for SB!!!

Maybe I need to stay away from children, but true players no. You my friend need to stay away from sports. Stick and Stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgMVMaK1NnY

yes I believe underclassmen whether they start or not still need to earn their keep. Yes, they earn playing time by their play. But there is more to a team than the game. I guess singing on the tables in-front of everyone in the student café is wrong too. Menial tasks like shoveling or emotional embarrassing moments like singing bonds freshman to upper classmen and gives the TEAM memories of a life-time

I read the article and from reading yes I thought it was an over reaction, very f'd up, but over reaction none the less. There is definitely more to it. If you ever played high level competitive sports you had these (kill a player or coach) thoughts too. but a true athlete eventually respects their opponent coach.

I do not know more than I read. So I do not know the situation. I am sure there is more. But where has the toughness in sports gone!!!

Remember underclassmen push upper classmen not to be complacent; and upperclassmen push underclassmen to play their best so they see the field. They may not see eye to eye but each need to respect each other while knowing each others place.

I just read the score , absolutely great win for S.B. Congratulations for beating a top 10 team, very impressive