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What's your problem section 11 mandates they have to play those teams. CR has NO choice. Cant answer why there is only 1 non league, but their Division schedule is not flexible. You obviously are CLUELESS.

So let's talk about something worthwhile. Why did Manhasset coach bench star featured player and take loss to Wantagh?

Yea name the school Liar!! Never applied and if she did they would scoop her up in a hot second. She will never apply until she gets her pension she is no fool. Ya think she wants a 30,000.00 a year job how stupid!!!!!!'

Coaching at its best

Do we need to say more?

Nice try coach rose never applied for a college job- go back and find another story to make up ;

she can still make her club money and coach college, she knows northport going down
ask her if she applied for the adelphi job

Unfortunately there are schools that have "weak" lacrosse programs, and most parents here do not wish to offend. I truly believe that if your daughter is in one of these traditionally "weak" Lacrosse schools it is no reflection on her, but more on the district. I personally know girls from these schools that are very talented players and only lack guidance from a talented coach. The districts and unions are to blame for lesser talented coaches being given coaching jobs because of seniority, and because its an easy way for them to make extra money. IMO this is robbing the kids from all sports the opportunity to excel and thrive in a sport that they love. Unfortunately, politics play a large role in High School athletics.


But naming the schools isn't cool at all. Like many of the girls have a choice of where they must attend. And you are right; my daughter does attend a school with a "weaker" program.....thank goodness that she had the guidance to negotiate the recruiting process and landed a good fit in college. Unfortunately; she can and will put up numbers that anywhere else in the country will get her All-State at the least; but won't get any recognition here.

What in the world are you talking about??? Nortport going down? What do you think it is a college where she can recruit to have a strong team every year? Sometimes you need to regroup depending on the kids that graduated and who is coming up. Just shows how you know nothing about lacrosse she was never in contention for the adelphi job- way too busy

Congratulations to your daughter for the hard work and dedication in achieving her goal, I am sure she is a good girl and deserves all the accolades she does not receive. With that being said, weaker schools are out there, and just like it's not your fault, it's not ours either. To say that West Islip will not crush Brentwood because Bentwood is weak isn't said in a bad way towards the girls. and quite frankly, almost every town has P.A.L. teams and middle school teams. Now at the P.A.L. level you don't have much choice, but in middle school you do have a voice, if you choose not to use that voice and go to the administration and demand better coaches for your girls then you will never get better trained girls for your varsity teams. Have you gone back , after your daughter left middle school to help change the coaches or do you have the "my daughter is done, it's not my problem anymore" attitude, because if you do than its your fault the program is weak. Remember the schools work for us, we don't work for them

Your right. Truth is that's bad sporsmanship too, thanks for pointing it out.

Since when do parents have a choice in how athletic programs are run? Coaches act as if they are the parents; and if any issues arise, they hide behind the district AD and take it out on the kid.

Honestly.....I'm a football guy and my expertise in lacrosse is limited....so I wouldn't be much help anyway. And yes; politics are the root of the problem. My daughter's program has a culture of accepting losing and EVERYONE(players, parents, and the AD of whom is a football guy as well) has accepted the fact that the team is and will remain poor. Meanwhile; the other girls and parents complain about the lack of All-League, etc and not making Schoolgirls' teams. I'm only ONE voice and the voice that no one wants to hear. I know it not your fault; but to call out schools of being weak isn't classy at all. That's my point. It's about the girls...not parental braggadocio!

Now quite frankly we don't live in a traditional football hotspot. I can't understand why, on Long Island, a lacrosse hotbed for decades, any A.D. will spend more money on football than lacrosse.

NO KIDDING! It's like that in my district, too, and our football team pretty much stinks.

As for demanding better coaches, HAHAHA. In my district, any teacher who wants the coaching job gets it before it's offered outside the district. And not once that I know of has any coach been let go, that job is theirs for as long as they want it, regardless of wins/losses, crazy stunts, whatever. It absolutely stinks. We have spoken to our AD about a coach (not lax), laid out all the problems, were told that the AD would look into it. Lather, rinse, repeat. Nothing happens. By junior or senior year, no one will play for this coach, kids quit mid-year, AD knows, coach stays put. So, so frustrating as a player and a parent.

I did not know you win scrimmages

ok, let's say there was no winners or losers and no score being kept. Don't want to upset anyone, that would be bad sportsmanship.

I am amazed at the amount of time spent on these boards talking about Carol Rose. Doesn't matter what board it is, she seems to come up. I think too many people are obsessed with this lady. Enough already. I am a parent of a girl who doesn't play for yellow jackets and doesn't play for Northport. She is very happy with where she is, and so are we. My advise to those who don't like Carol Rose. Please stop complaining about her. Go out and cheer on your daughters and the other girls on the field. If you're happy not playing for her, which most people who have something to say about her state, then stop paying so much attention to her.

That is very easy for you to say. Is your daughter's HS coach also a YJ coach? If not you don't know what we are dealing with. Most of us are afraid to say anything about the politics because our kids would be blackballed.

You're correct. It is easy for me to say. Obviously your daughter is caught in a tough situation. I'm sorry to hear that. But I'm sure that most of the people that are on here complaining are not in the same horrible situation you are. I apologize if I lumped everyone together. Good Luck.

All things the same (or close) the reality is - political or friendly ties will always win out.

A HS coach SHOULD always want to put the best team on the field. But "best" takes on a lot of meaning. In best you never know what weighs more Skill or Attitude.

If you feel your child is not getting the play time they deserve, sit your child down let them know this not only happens in HS on the fields but on the stage for those students in the arts, some students may not get into a college of their choice (academically) only to have their friend and neighbor (who is not as qualified) get in. It happens its life.

But here you do have a voice and never silence it. If you feel you are in the right and confused on the actions, have the player reach out and have an adult conversation with the coach. Have them ask what can be done to see more time on the field. If you feel you need to be present when the conversation happens (bcause it has already gotten to this level) by all means get involved as a witness and mentor to guide your child after the conversation.

But be careful, you may not like what you hear. You may hear a lot more work is involved than you thought. You may have to take of those "Rose colored Glasses".

Sounds like a job for Dr. Richard D. Ginsburg.

Just remember you are asking to take playing time away from another child (potential friend/neighbor) who may question what just happened.

Tuesday, April 10th Results
Middle Country over Riverhead 19-6
Port Washington triples Carle Place, 18-6
Bay Shore crushes West Islip, 18-5
East Islip over HHH, 13-10
Holy Trinity over St. Dominic, 17-14
Lindenhurst over Pat-Med, 8-3
Sachem East triples Whitman, 15-5
Northport handily over Floyd, 17-6
Smithtown East twenties North Babylon, 20-6
Commack over Longwood, 10-6
Wantagh over Plainedge, 19-12
Smithtown West doubles Brentwood, 18-9
Sachem North five-folds Copiague, 15-3
South Side over Kellenberg, 15-11

Highlights

Bay Shore's win over West Islip today stamps them as the real deal heading to the season's midpoint. Caroline deLyra had three goals and four assists, Cynthia DelCore had three goals and two assists, and Carly Cox had one goal and five assists for Bay Shore (5-0) in Division I.

Dorrien Van Dyke had five goals and two assists and Cortney Fortunato had three goals and four assists to lead Northport (4-1) in Division I.

Tuesday, April 10th Results


where was West Islip's best player!!


Port Washington triples Carle Place, 18-6
Bay Shore crushes West Islip, 18-5
East Islip over HHH, 13-10
Holy Trinity over St. Dominic, 17-14
Lindenhurst over Pat-Med, 8-3
Sachem East triples Whitman, 15-5
Northport handily over Floyd, 17-6
Smithtown East twenties North Babylon, 20-6
Commack over Longwood, 10-6
Wantagh over Plainedge, 19-12
Smithtown West doubles Brentwood, 18-9
Sachem North five-folds Copiague, 15-3
South Side over Kellenberg, 15-11

Highlights

Bay Shore's win over West Islip today stamps them as the real deal heading to the season's midpoint. Caroline deLyra had three goals and four assists, Cynthia DelCore had three goals and two assists, and Carly Cox had one goal and five assists for Bay Shore (5-0) in Division I.

Dorrien Van Dyke had five goals and two assists and Cortney Fortunato had three goals and four assists to lead Northport (4-1) in Division I.