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Maybe, maybe not. You can't discount the role politics plays in these moves though.

My district has a new JV coach who brought her 7th grade daughter up to play with her. We could discuss that load of baloney all day and get nowhere.

Easy, like this. Put an 8th grader on varsity and give her an edge in playing time over perhahps a more skilled and physical junior or senior. Does it make your team better on this particular day? Maybe not, but maybe the coach is concerned about making the team better three, four, five years down the road. Maybe they see something in the girl and want to spend the time developing her. Not everyone is completely concerned with winning the game in front of their nose, this may make great sense for the long term of the team. I have no knowledge of this particular situation, and it may be completely political, but you asked for a argument on the logic.

The 8th grader is 2nd in points on your team, behind her sister. She must be doing something right. Last time I looked you need to have assists and score goals to win games.

The 8th grader is second in scoring because the words pass and teamwork are not in her vocabulary

Longwood vs Sachem North this afternoon.....a sudden death thriller won by Longwood 18-17......best game seen in years!

I see what you're saying but IME it still takes a skilled player of any age to single-handedly (as stated by you) to score. I've seen a lot of ball hogs get stuffed trying to hotdog it all by themselves.

That said, it is also my experience that when younger players get brought up they are less up to speed on the concept of teamwork as a whole.

There you go again....adult picking on a 14 y/o girl...proud moment for you.

Isn't that why they have J.V. My daughter played against them And The 8th grader didn't make them any better. Isn't that why you play a girl early? because they make your team better

No, its to make the player better. It makes the team better down the road. Happens in many programs all over the country.

Just make sure the kid plans to stay in your district. A few years ago, a coach (not girls and not lax) brought up five 8th graders who started over HS'rs. The coach's stated purpose was that he was "building a dynasty." After their 8th grade year, three of the five went to Catholic HS and one quit that sport to play another.

yeah seems like carol rose is monitoring this thread. All the abuse she took for running up scores and having her superstar score 20 meaningless goals last week . congrats to carol rose for laying down in the 2nd half today and putting a rope on her super star

Thursday, April 12th Results

Floyd over Pat-Med, 12-8
Ward Melville over Smithtown East, 14-5
Bay Shore over Lindenhurst, 17-4 (Halftime : 9-1)
West Babylon over Whitman, 17-4 (Halftime : 12-2)
East Islip over North Babylon, 21-5 (Halftime : 13-3)
Holy Trinity over East Meadow, 16-11
Longwood over Sachem North, 19-18, Overtime
Connetquot over Brentwood, 15-11
Northport over Middle Country, 17-5 (Halftime : 13-1)
North Shore over Wantagh, 14-13
West Islip triples Riverhead, 15-5
Freeport over Herricks, 13-10
Commack over Copiague, 17-0 (Halftime : 11-0)

Highlights

Micaela Dussel scored the winning goal for North Shore (6-1) unassisted with 4:21 left in a non-conference game. Amanda Johansen led North Shore with six goals.

Lindsey Eggers controlled a ground ball and scored unassisted in the sudden death overtime period to win the game for Longwood (2-5, 2-4) in Division I. Eggers also tied the score at 18 in the second overtime period, and finished with three goals. Caitlyn Sweeney led Longwood with five goals and an assist, and Sachem North's Nicole Dale scored eight goals to lead all scorers.

Your kids goals are meaningless looser!!

Good. A little sportsmanship goes a long way. Maybe all the negative fallout is worth something afterall.

Don't give this thread or yourself that much credit- coach rose does not follow your gameplan. I think she knows what she is doing.

Lindsey Eggers controlled a ground ball and scored unassisted in the sudden death overtime period to win the game for Longwood (2-5, 2-4) in Division I. Eggers also tied the score at 18 in the second overtime period, and finished with three goals. Caitlyn Sweeney led Longwood with five goals and an assist.

meaningless game/goals both teams going nowhere, (2-5, 2-4) . dont waste our time

From the perspective of an overtime game where Longwood came back from a two goal deficit in overtime, the game was extremely competitive and worthwhile covering. BOTC and our readers spend a great deal of time covering the top end programs; occasionally, just seeing a single game for its own worth is valuable.

You know there are over 20 teams in div 1 they all have worthwhile girls who play great at times. Sometimes these girls play for average teams and are above average players who get no recognition because they are not from top programs. Don't be so arrogant. Look at the top 10 points leaders in Suffolk County. They don't all come from the top programs!! These programs and their girls deserve a little recognition too!

Cage thanks for reporting on it.

That 8th grader had 3 goals today in a 11-9 win against a good Hills team and that sophomore goalie you threw under the bus had an incredible game - the Fios MVP. Next year your daughter should go out for the softball team. Maybe you would be happier. She obviously will never see the field because she has no skill or athletic ability. Wake up and smell the coffee.

yeah seems like carol rose is monitoring this thread. All the abuse she took for running up scores and having her superstar score 20 meaningless goals last week . congrats to carol rose for laying down in the 2nd half today and putting a rope on her super star


Don't give this thread or yourself that much credit- coach rose does not follow your gameplan. I think she knows what she is doing.

you are a carol rose YJ or Northport cronie or maybee you are really unlucky and are both. She must follow this thread if she was crying to her lawyer about it. maybee We got through to her and she realized that meaningless goals by alledged superstars dont mean squat. dont fear the bee, fear the botc.

Hey unhappy Sachem East mommy or daddy - or should I say F.G? ....Did you see today's game result? you were there. The sophomore goalie you threw under the bus had 11 saves and was names MVP by Fios High School Sports and the 8th grader led the team in scoring with 3 goals and one assist. She now leads the team in assists. In other words, being a team player is in her vocabulary. The back up junior goalie did a nice job last year stepping up when the starting goalie broke her thumb, but the sophomore is more athletic and a better overall goalie. You hate her because she plays YJ club lax and lives in the block as the 8th grader. Shame on you for crying and whinning in public but keeping your name hidden. All the Sachem parents know who you are. Go SYAG!

Meaningless game.....oh please.....ask the girls of both LW/SN how meaningless the game was. We must remember.....these are children playing....it could be some fool speaking reckless about your daughter ....and I bet you would not care for it.

PLEASE let's not turn this thread into another YJ thread - keep all the drama over there!

my daughter plays on this team, they cant scoop up a ground ball ,they cant catch the ball and they cant past the ball without turning it over 30 times in a game. my other daughter 4 grade team plays better!!!! the head coach is pulling his hair out of his head, the assist coach is great, i cant say enough about him. I hope he stay a few years. what kill me about this team, were in every game at half time. This team lack team leadership ON THE FIELD and most important HEART!!!! Its so bad bad here that a few JV girls were ask to go to Varsity and they said NO because they winning at jv.

I know who F.G. is ,I also know his daughter. And I have to say your wrong. His Daughter is very good. She will play on a competitive college team, and she will do very well. Since you want to throw out initials here is one for you C.T. . he got the coach her job, yes the sophomore goalie is friends with his daughter and thats why she starts. That coupled with a feud between F.G. and C.T. Both the coach and C.T. should be ashamed of themselves for taking C.T's revenge out on a teen age girl. YOU ARE BOTH COWARDS!!!! In any other school district, the 8th grader plays j.v. at best . She is not a bad player but to small to defend , and to raw on attack, but because of mommy and daddy she's on varsity. Anybody that has a daughter that played youth lax in sachem knows the story behind C.T. and F.G. and for good reason they keep there mouth shut, we have all taken in the lesson. That family runs Sachem East Girls Lacrosse, and the district allows it. You either accept it, or risk having your daughter sit like F.G. And one last thing, how are you going to defend the out and out dirty play that same sophomore goalie pulled off with 5 seconds left in the game? her reckless play hurt that girl. Is that what Sachem East lacrosse is.

Based on the above theory, shouldn't you then have the entire Middle School team play JV or Varsity....It will make the kids better and tsubsequently, the team gets better down the road...

If the kid is one of the best 10-15 kids in the District and she is going to get plenty of touches, then she belongs on Varsity. If not, play age appropriate. Have her help her peers get better!

If I were head coach of any program and if any player would refuse a promotion to varsity would get immediately cut! What team are you speaking of? Show some cajoñes dude!

The team that is currently in first place lol!

Last year 2 eighth graders helps take Mt. Sinai to States! So its not any school district. In fact look at ESM's goalie, on varsity since 7th grade. Cant argue with their success

Isn't the thread about Long Island girls HS lacrosse?
Last I looked Long Island had more than just one team

If you are going to make the argument that no 8th grader should be brought up then you are just plain wrong.There are some 8th graders that benefit and deserve to be brought up and by the stats it looks like she belongs, yes I understand the stats do not show the true picture.As far as her size give me a break I have seen many players who in person are small in stature but play big on the field .

GC has no middle school students playing at the HS level, JV or Varsity and no problem being successful

WOW. read all your posts....you should be proud. What a joke of a thread.

Congratulations! GC has more players that are talented. What does that have to do with another HS that doesn't drawing from the middle school if needed? We scrimmaged Sachem East and the 8 th grader was way better than most of the other kids on that team! So if your REALLY talented 9th grader was left off the team it certainly wasn't because the 8th grader took her spot. There were plenty of other players that were less deserving to be on that team! She is 13/14 years old, God bless her she is a good player and I am sure worked very hard to earn that spot. It was obvious by her stick work!

ENOUGH ALREADY.

GO WATCH JERRY SPRINGER OR SOMETHING. YOUR POLLUTING THIS SITE AND TURNING MANY PARENTS OFF.

What most people don't get is Garden City is consistently good because of the youth and middle school teams, They want to produce good players, not just one or two. Don't scream at there 4th and 5th grade girls and kick buckets of balls over when they make mistakes. They teach all there kids , not just there own. Every school system should take notice of this , but some how they don't. In G.C. there is nothing special in the water, and no magic pill, they all work together and it shows.

So what do you want to talk about

Since you asked, the moderators here at BOTC want to move the discussion off your personal single threaded focus on this Sachem East issue. End of that discussion as it has been beaten to a pulp. Capiche?