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Anyone know the club breakdown for the girls who made the USA Today national rankings?

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Why isn't my 9th grader on the list she buzzes around all summer and is really good

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Why isn't my 9th grader on the list she buzzes around all summer and is really good
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USA breakdown All YJ and one Liberty player

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Found some TG too

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Found some TG too


Congrats to all the girls from all the clubs. You can rip CR and YJ all you want but they produce players no doubt. Don't know if it comes from various team selections, press coverage or maybe even the fact that in YJ they have names on jerseys, but they do a very good job with getting players to be known quantities.

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Found some TG too


Congrats to all the girls from all the clubs. You can rip CR and YJ all you want but they produce players no doubt. Don't know if it comes from various team selections, press coverage or maybe even the fact that in YJ they have names on jerseys, but they do a very good job with getting players to be known quantities.



no they dont....they just have more players than anyone...thus more talent...reality...it is a small percentage of they overall club.

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YJ gets the top athletes that is what makes the program good. But only so many top players can play at once. Better players that may not be getting the time have to go somewhere else to develop their potential rather than sit on the bench just to say they are a YJ. Case in point Taylor Moreno, Elevate; Katie Reily, Elevate; Katie Muldoon, TG.

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All of these lists skew toward the more recognizable clubs and programs across all sports. Do you really think USA today and Under Armor and Nike and msg varsity really know these kids especially the ones near the bottom? A Wave kid probably has to be twice as good as a YJ to make the list.

Great job by any kid on ANY list but the "name game" definitely plays a part. Politics are everywhere

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All of these lists skew toward the more recognizable clubs and programs across all sports. Do you really think USA today and Under Armor and Nike and msg varsity really know these kids especially the ones near the bottom? A Wave kid probably has to be twice as good as a YJ to make the list.

Great job by any kid on ANY list but the "name game" definitely plays a part. Politics are everywhere


Congratulations to all the girls who made the list! I'm sure there are many more who deserve some accolades as well.

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From the USA today list with clubs
Attack
Brindi Griffin, McDonogh School, M&D
Lindsey Ronbeck, Manhasset High School, liberty
Nikki Ortega, Centereach High School , Yellow Jackets
Nicole Levy, East Islip High School, Top Guns

Midfield
Miranda Ibello, Maryvale Prepatory,SkyWalkers
Hannah Warther, Century High School,CHECK-HERS
Olivia “Ya” Ferrucci, Barron Collier High School,Skywalkers
Charlotte Sofield, Bishop Ireton High School, Capital Lacrosse
Sydney Pirreca, Mount Sinai High School , Yellow Jackets
Kerrigan Miller, Bayport-Blue Point High School, Yellow Jackets

Defense
Erin Kelly, Clarkstown South High School, Metro Magic
Sarah Platt, Agnes Irwin School, Phantastix
Claire Quinn, St. Anthony’s High School, Yellow Jackets
Cara Trombetta, Sachem High School east, Yellow Jackets
Sam Giacolone, Eastport South Manor Jr.-Sr. High School, Yellow Jackets

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YJ gets the top athletes that is what makes the program good. But only so many top players can play at once. Better players that may not be getting the time have to go somewhere else to develop their potential rather than sit on the bench just to say they are a YJ. Case in point Taylor Moreno, Elevate; Katie Reily, Elevate; Katie Muldoon, TG.

Ther are better players on that TG team

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From the USA today list with clubs
Attack
Brindi Griffin, McDonogh School, M&D
Lindsey Ronbeck, Manhasset High School, liberty
Nikki Ortega, Centereach High School , Yellow Jackets
Nicole Levy, East Islip High School, Top Guns

Midfield
Miranda Ibello, Maryvale Prepatory,SkyWalkers
Hannah Warther, Century High School,CHECK-HERS
Olivia “Ya” Ferrucci, Barron Collier High School,Skywalkers
Charlotte Sofield, Bishop Ireton High School, Capital Lacrosse
Sydney Pirreca, Mount Sinai High School , Yellow Jackets
Kerrigan Miller, Bayport-Blue Point High School, Yellow Jackets

Defense
Erin Kelly, Clarkstown South High School, Metro Magic
Sarah Platt, Agnes Irwin School, Phantastix
Claire Quinn, St. Anthony’s High School, Yellow Jackets
Cara Trombetta, Sachem High School east, Yellow Jackets
Sam Giacolone, Eastport South Manor Jr.-Sr. High School, Yellow Jackets


Great showing from LI! More than 50% on the first team! That is good for all the Clubs and High Schools!

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Does ESM have a new girls coach for 2015? or is the goalie daddy the new coach?

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Does ESM have a new girls coach for 2015? or is the goalie daddy the new coach?


Here we go its starting already!

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Women's lacrosse is such a great sport to watch . There are truly some amazing kids who are so gifted athletically. Thank you for sharing your daughters with the rest of us. In no time they will be heading off to college and starting the next chapter of their lives. Please take the time to enjoy these wonderful young ladies. Enough with knocking another person down for whatever perceived shortcomings they may have. These are our daughters and they will be gone before you can blink an eye. Hug your daughter when she gets home. I guarantee you will feel better than when you spend time online.
ENJOY THE WEEKEND!

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Women's lacrosse is such a great sport to watch . There are truly some amazing kids who are so gifted athletically. Thank you for sharing your daughters with the rest of us. In no time they will be heading off to college and starting the next chapter of their lives. Please take the time to enjoy these wonderful young ladies. Enough with knocking another person down for whatever perceived shortcomings they may have. These are our daughters and they will be gone before you can blink an eye. Hug your daughter when she gets home. I guarantee you will feel better than when you spend time online.
ENJOY THE WEEKEND!


A very nice thoughtful post! Thanks, hope it hits home to people who read this site!

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#Take A look at the Divisions for this year. I wonder how many of the "A" schools avoid the teams that dropped to "B"?

GIRLS LACROSSE (Approved 5/20/14)
Division I (A)
Brentwood
Longwood
William Floyd
Half Hollow Hills
Patchogue-Medford
Commack
Ward Melville
Middle Country
Sachem East
Sachem North
Lindenhurst
Connetquot
Northport
Bay Shore
Walt Whitman
Smithtown East
Smithtown West
Copiague
Riverhead
West Islip
North Babylon



Division II
East Islip (B)
West Babylon (B)
Bellport (B)
Deer Park (B)
Hauppauge (B)
Huntington (B)
Eastport-S Manor (B)
Kings Park (B)
Harborfields (B)
Comsewogue (B)
Rocky Point (B)
Islip (B)
Sayville (B)
Westhampton (B)
Miller Place (B)
E Hampton/BH/Pier (B)
Mt. Sinai (C)
Shoreham-WR (C)
Bayport-Blue Pt (C)
Elwood-J Glenn (C)
Matt/Shld/Gpt (C)
Hampton Bays (C)
Center Moriches (C)
Babylon (C)
McGann-Mercy (C)

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#Take A look at the Divisions for this year. I wonder how many of the "A" schools avoid the teams that dropped to "B"?

GIRLS LACROSSE (Approved 5/20/14)
Division I (A)
Brentwood
Longwood
William Floyd
Half Hollow Hills
Patchogue-Medford
Commack
Ward Melville
Middle Country
Sachem East
Sachem North
Lindenhurst
Connetquot
Northport
Bay Shore
Walt Whitman
Smithtown East
Smithtown West
Copiague
Riverhead
West Islip
North Babylon



Division II
East Islip (B)
West Babylon (B)
Bellport (B)
Deer Park (B)
Hauppauge (B)
Huntington (B)
Eastport-S Manor (B)
Kings Park (B)
Harborfields (B)
Comsewogue (B)
Rocky Point (B)
Islip (B)
Sayville (B)
Westhampton (B)
Miller Place (B)
E Hampton/BH/Pier (B)
Mt. Sinai (C)
Shoreham-WR (C)
Bayport-Blue Pt (C)
Elwood-J Glenn (C)
Matt/Shld/Gpt (C)
Hampton Bays (C)
Center Moriches (C)
Babylon (C)
McGann-Mercy (C)


They all avoid them. Unless coaches choose to schedule them as a non-league or scrimmage.

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B has alot of good teams with the exception of DP and Com whereas A is split between good and bad. C is also split between good and bad and the top of C compares to the top of B

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Looks like W Bab N Haup are playing W I. E I didn't schedule any tough NL.

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Looks like W Bab N Haup are playing W I. E I didn't schedule any tough NL.


After a very poor season last year, EI has to go back to easy schedule to get winnable games in order to rebuild confidence.

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Who is gonna win div1 and div 2 this year pls answer

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Who is gonna win div1 and div 2 this year pls answer


It's between last years finals teams, ESM, Sayvile, and throw WBab and Hauppauge into the mix.

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Who is gonna win div1 and div 2 this year pls answer


It's between last years finals teams, ESM, Sayvile, and throw WBab and Hauppauge into the mix.


Lol. Narcissistic Sayville guy at it again. I thought box scores don't tell the truth? Like the Maryland Hofstra game. Get over yourself Mr. Know-it-all.

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Who is gonna win div1 and div 2 this year pls answer


It's between last years finals teams, ESM, Sayvile, and throw WBab and Hauppauge into the mix.


Lol. Narcissistic Sayville guy at it again. I thought box scores don't tell the truth? Like the Maryland Hofstra game. Get over yourself Mr. Know-it-all.


Box scores? What are you talking about? Picked the two teams from the Finals last year in div 2, added two teams that dropped from Division 1. I didn't have any horses in the race last year. You can argue for any team that made semis last year too. Don't remember off hand, but do think it was Sayvile/ESM in the finals last year if I remember correctly. So add whoever else you think belongs in the conversation, I am sure there must be a half dozen teams that could take the division.

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It's between last years finals teams, ESM, Sayvile, and throw WBab and Hauppauge into the mix.


Many towns In "A" are happy to see W Bab and Hauppauge go to "B". My $ is on Hauppauge to win it in Suffolk.

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Who is gonna win div1 and div 2 this year pls answer


It's between last years finals teams, ESM, Sayvile, and throw WBab and Hauppauge into the mix.


Many towns In "A" are happy to see W Bab and Hauppauge go to "B". My $ is on Hauppauge to win it in Suffolk.


That is what is great about this sport, many small schools can put together very strong teams. Look at Mt. Sinai's recent run. You could put them against any of the larger school powerhouses and they compete.

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What districts allow 7th and 8th graders to play jv or varsity? Does every district make their own decision about this?

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What districts allow 7th and 8th graders to play jv or varsity? Does every district make their own decision about this?


Yes. It's different in every district.

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What districts allow 7th and 8th graders to play jv or varsity? Does every district make their own decision about this?


Yes. It's different in every district.


I have been told by parents of certain districts that their own district won't pull 7 th, or 8th or whatever up because its against their policy, mostly to justify that their daughters not getting pulled up. Then to see them pull from these grades a year or two later.
Some district constantly pull up, some seemingly never and some only when a truly special player comes along, I support the last scenario.

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Some pull up based on merit, some pull up based on needing roster bodies

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Who is gonna win div1 and div 2 this year pls answer


It's between last years finals teams, ESM, Sayvile, and throw WBab and Hauppauge into the mix.


Many towns In "A" are happy to see W Bab and Hauppauge go to "B". My $ is on Hauppauge to win it in Suffolk.


Stop!!! Huntington is team to beat in B. Mt. Sinai in C. Hauppauge,WBab, EI will help thin herd in B. Bayport had nice run in 2014. It's over.

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the state gives each school district the latitude of whether or not they will pull any middle school players.

If the school district allows a child to be pulled up they have the say on who is allowed to take the test, or if they will only take up am 8th grader or if they have to pass the Jv or Varsity portion of the Selection Classification test.

Now if your school district doesn't allow a 7th grader but does allow an 8th grader you can petition the BOE to allow 7th graders. Or if the district doesn't allow any Middle school kids you can petition the BOE.

but good luck petitioning the school against the wishes of the AD.

School districts also can make a rule that they will only pull up

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My district used to pull up a lot but this year changed policy somewhat. There is nothing set in any district and it can change whenever.

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What districts allow 7th and 8th graders to play jv or varsity? Does every district make their own decision about this?


Yes. It's different in every district.


I have been told by parents of certain districts that their own district won't pull 7 th, or 8th or whatever up because its against their policy, mostly to justify that their daughters not getting pulled up. Then to see them pull from these grades a year or two later.
Some district constantly pull up, some seemingly never and some only when a truly special player comes along, I support the last scenario.


Actually it depends on whether or not the 7th or 8th grader plays for the HS Coaches club program. If they don't they won't get pulled up.

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My district used to pull up a lot but this year changed policy somewhat. There is nothing set in any district and it can change whenever.


It has to be set and recorded by the BOE of the district. What the policy is before the school year. But the AD has the final say. Can deny anyone for any reasondac

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Our schools policy was quiet for years until some YJ parents brought it back to forefront with petitions for 7th and 8th graders to play varsity The parents thought the kids should be up because they have a bumper sticker.

I understand the call ups for roster need and ability but because you are a YJ?

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If your kid is good the varsity coach will know about her. The coach ahould have a need for her on his/her team with the realization that she will play on varsity and be effective . The coach would have already reached out to you months ago to discuss the classification process with you. If you have not heard from anyone at this point the reality is your daughter may be good but not any better than what the coach already has. So she will have to play MS ball like everyone else. When her time comes maybe 8th grade maybe not all depends on the district, she will get the call up maybe to Varsity or JV . Coaches will fight for your kid if she is needed. The problem is parents fight for their kid before they are needed and it puts a bad taste in everyone's mouth from the Ad down.

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If your kid is good the varsity coach will know about her. The coach ahould have a need for her on his/her team with the realization that she will play on varsity and be effective . The coach would have already reached out to you months ago to discuss the classification process with you. If you have not heard from anyone at this point the reality is your daughter may be good but not any better than what the coach already has. So she will have to play MS ball like everyone else. When her time comes maybe 8th grade maybe not all depends on the district, she will get the call up maybe to Varsity or JV . Coaches will fight for your kid if she is needed. The problem is parents fight for their kid before they are needed and it puts a bad taste in everyone's mouth from the Ad down.


Most accurate thing I've read so far regarding this process.

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