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For those that are critical of SS coaching ability, today is the first Hofstra game of the season, and this is her first season with the girls she personally recruited....
Let's watch and see how they do...

SS did not recruit the seniors on her team.

In a perfect scenario there would be qualified adult coaches without personal interest ( a daughter or sister ) in the team who would start with a team early at its inception and see it through till the end.

I don't think any club has this to any great extent, the YJ would certainly be in the forefront of this. The TG would be well served if they invested in better coaches and moved away from the college kid formula.


It's hard to turn down money but I also believe there should only be two teams per age group, keep it smaller concentrate on the kinds who make these teams, get them better. If an atmosphere is created where demand for a spot is greater than the 50 available spots the cost for entry to the club could increase and high pay given to those "top" adult coaches without a personal interst in the team

Just my .02 cents

Even with the above, I am still a big supporter of the club and I have had nothing but a Great experience with the club and the directors....

Take a look at M&D's website, it's exactly what you are describing. Only two teams at each age and every one is coached by a HS coach, many of the assistant coaches are HS coaches too. The model can and does work. I don't think college kids are necessarily bad coaches but you lack coaching continuity through the kids years at TG. I assume the problem is they cost more.

Most, if not all the M&D kids attend 20K/year private schools/lax factories coached by the same people and money is not an object for them - the coaches are getting paid one way or the other on both ends (club & school), I know that you would be happy to pay twice what it currently cost if this model was used here, but most people don't see it that way

SS did not recruit the seniors on her team.

In a perfect scenario there would be qualified adult coaches without personal interest ( a daughter or sister ) in the team who would start with a team early at its inception and see it through till the end.

I don't think any club has this to any great extent, the YJ would certainly be in the forefront of this. The TG would be well served if they invested in better coaches and moved away from the college kid formula.

It's hard to turn down money but I also believe there should only be two teams per age group, keep it smaller concentrate on the kinds who make these teams, get them better. If an atmosphere is created where demand for a spot is greater than the 50 available spots the cost for entry to the club could increase and high pay given to those "top" adult coaches without a personal interst in the team

Just my .02 cents

Even with the above, I am still a big supporter of the club and I have had nothing but a Great experience with the club and the directors....

Thank you Captain Obvious, if this is her first recruiting class, then she hasn't recruited the Juniors or Sophomores either....

Great win for Hofstra!

Not a shot at Hofstra or coach, but "great" should probably be reserved for a win against someone other than New Hampshire...

Hofstra may get slightly better than pre-SS. That's due to a better pipeline of influence from TG to get some decent players to go there. It is not the school to ever attract top players, so I doubt the team will ever break into the top 20. There is a massive drop in team strength from top 5 teams to those at or around 20 and yet again to the mid level teams. As far as her being a great coach, it is hard to judge by looking at her college experience. With the recruiting process often taking 2 three years before kids arrive as freshman, then four years to fill out all class with her recruits. It takes about 7
years for a collegiate program to become a full reflection of the coaches ability. If she coaches and recruits well you should see some early improvement with new impact freshmen coming in. If she is seriously making a career of college coaching, Hofstra would likely be a stepping stone to better lax schools where she could attract top talent and be a relevant contender.

Hofstra may get slightly better than pre-SS. That's due to a better pipeline of influence from TG to get some decent players to go there. It is not the school to ever attract top players, so I doubt the team will ever break into the top 20. There is a massive drop in team strength from top 5 teams to those at or around 20 and yet again to the mid level teams. As far as her being a great coach, it is hard to judge by looking at her college experience. With the recruiting process often taking 2 three years before kids arrive as freshman, then four years to fill out all class with her recruits. It takes about 7
years for a collegiate program to become a full reflection of the coaches ability. If she coaches and recruits well you should see some early improvement with new impact freshmen coming in. If she is seriously making a career of college coaching, Hofstra would likely be a stepping stone to better lax schools where she could attract top talent and be a relevant contender.

If it takes 7 years, there may not be a program. The current players do not like SS. She has created a very unhealthy environment at Hofstra. Just ask current players how much they like playing for her.

This is her third year, how could it be her first class? The prior post was talking about all 4 classes being her recruits for the first time but the seniors are not. Do at least a bit of homework before taking shots at someone.

Hofstra finished 2014 ranked 39 with stony brook at #8

Hofstra is playing the 46th strongest schedule in the country this year with a projection to be in the top 25 ranking.

If they crack the top 25 she is doing great!

A young woman has been given a chance to Coach A D-1 team right out of College. What could she done to you for you to want her to fail. Hofstra was willing to take a chance on her so be it. This I think will be her 3rd Season, maybe she will succeed, maybe be she won't, But isn't great she was given the opportunity try?

Listen. The problem here is simple. Shannon and Bill sold everyone on Top Guns by promoting Shannon as the marquis personality. She has been more than absent for most of the girls and their teams and that makes people mad. The teams are coached by college kids that don't stay with the teams year after year and don't do much instructing. That makes the quality of each girls experience suffer. There is also almost no recruiting help unless you are a top 5 kid or a special project of Bill or Shannon.
All these things are not said to hammer the TGs. They are all factual and issues that upset people. I will also say that we are switching clubs because of it. Just our preference. I'm sure many will stay but many will leave as well. Free market system right. My advice is to lack at all the clubs and what they have to offer then choose. TG without Shannon... not good for us. Good luck.

WOW, cannot think of any other job where you get 7 years before people expect results. Imagine in the NFL if coaches were given that much of a cushion.Sorry but she is a coach , if she is a good coach you should be seeing immediate results with the kids that are there.

WOW, cannot think of any other job where you get 7 years before people expect results. Imagine in the NFL if coaches were given that much of a cushion.Sorry but she is a coach , if she is a good coach you should be seeing immediate results with the kids that are there.

WOW, cannot think of any other job where you get 7 years before people expect results. Imagine in the NFL if coaches were given that much of a cushion.Sorry but she is a coach , if she is a good coach you should be seeing immediate results with the kids that are there.

What the previous poster meant was that many of those M&D kids go to private schools from 1st to 12th (Mcdonough as an example). HS alone costs $28K a year...

Why does everything have up dp with Yj. I have never met such a big bunch of people that are so stupid. You guys have your head in the sand. You will get nothibg from tg's unless you kiss a little [lacrosse]. Get ready!

Very bad experience with the top gun family. my daughter was injured during her high school season an wasn't able to play during the travel season in fact never attended a single practice. Smith didn't refund a single penny. Beware its all about the money to them.

Very bad experience with the top gun family. my daughter was injured during her high school season an wasn't able to play during the travel season in fact never attended a single practice. Smith didn't refund a single penny. Beware its all about the money to them.

I have heard similar stories from YJ and Elevate as well as numerous boys clubs. And yes they all are about the money. But I doubt you had a conversation with BS because they do refund some in this case.

Congrats to TG players!!

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All 1 of them!

All 1 of them!

All 1 of them!