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Your wrong . My daughter plays on TLC White and its their "A" team. It was a great game. I watched the first half of the YJ Blue vs Elevate Blue, Elevate Blue has a weak slow defense and really no offense.

I am curious why people in Maryland and NJ (maybe even Long Island) don't realize/believe/admit that these Fall YJ teams are not the real teams. They are first come/first serve sign ups, they don't practice, and don't have the usual coach. This is the case for all age groups. Why is this so hard to grasp?

I am curious why people in Maryland and NJ (maybe even Long Island) don't realize/believe/admit that these Fall YJ teams are not the real teams. They are first come/first serve sign ups, they don't practice, and don't have the usual coach. This is the case for all age groups. Why is this so hard to grasp?

Have ya ever noticed that when YJ loses or barely wins they always have an excuse? They can never admit that sometimes they were beat by the better team that day. Besides...who cares? Win 'em all or lose 'em all, nobody outside of YJ cares. Any good player on any good club can play in college if she wants to. D1,2 or 3 is irrelevant.
With YJ saying that their teams aren't full strength for the fall, I was wondering if that same excuse can be used by other teams? My guess is that there are other clubs who aren't at full summer strength in the fall (girls in field hockey, soccer). And, for almost all teams there is minimal practices during the fall. And, if TLC White is the A team at the 2018 age group (why? I don't know), YJ shoulda still beat them since they're so good. Am I wrong?

I am curious why people in Maryland and NJ (maybe even Long Island) don't realize/believe/admit that these Fall YJ teams are not the real teams. They are first come/first serve sign ups, they don't practice, and don't have the usual coach. This is the case for all age groups. Why is this so hard to grasp?

Yep, you're wrong. Fall lax is like NFL preseason games. Has little meaning. Except it does give MD/NJ clubs something to brag about until Summer time when they get their reality check. Enjoy your Fall wins and close games!!

Well, maybe these people in Maryland and New Jersey have their usual teams and do not fall for the "mixed teams" scam that some clubs pull on their parents. In Maryland, speaking for the club teams I know - they will either play in a tournament with their "real roster" or they will not play. Most parents are not into the idea of paying all that money for a "mixed or cobbled" team. That's why it's so hard to grasp - that people will pay full price for an inferior product - think about it.

Yep, you're wrong. Fall lax is like NFL preseason games. Has little meaning. Except it does give MD/NJ clubs something to brag about until Summer time when they get their reality check. Enjoy your Fall wins and close games!!

Strange that so many college coaches attend the games and actually commit players after watching the Fall events.

College coaches recruit players, not teams.

How did TG do at their two tournaments this weekend?

All that money? YJ Fall fees are per tournament. Parents paying $65 per tourney.

The parents have a choice - don't pay !
Everyone complains but ends up giving the clubs money.
The clubs know the game - its a money game !
Some kids get into great schools. What is the percentage ?
Be real - Is my kid a top D1 player ?
Everyone knows the answer - some people feel they can throw money at the clubs and that will help. All the clubs are the same - don't fool yourself.
It helps the clubs get richer !!!

YES - DK got schooled by the Master CR !!

Okay - the cost per tournament for the parents is not that crazy and is on par with what the MD families pay. But, it's the travel that will kill you. It's been what, three weekends in a row that LI clubs have had to make the run down the turnpike.
Someone has said that coaches do not recruit teams, they recruit players. With all the players on LI - why isn't there a fall tournament or two on the island? The coaches that want to recruit the players will come.

My friend sent me an email that Elevate sent out that they are looking for 2018 girls? Do they not have enough players? Is this for their red team? What's the deal?

The majority of the tournaments our girls play in are run by program directors of other travel clubs. The travel clubs from Long Island have no interest in running a big time tournament because it's a lot of work for the money they make. They would rather pay to play somewhere else and rack in the profit of charging their players to play in it. The big L.I. programs run their own rinky dink tournaments at the end of the summer just for a last cash grab. As an example, just look at the two farce tournaments run by both YJ and TG in July.

Neither 2018 blue or red had a good weekend. Red barely had enough girls to field a team and blue got schooled by YJ. DK isn't stupid. He knows he needs help with that age group.

while not a great fan of DK and Elevate by any means, it is a very common occurrence to have Fall Tournament teams run very short in any programs, so that's nothing new..but to send 7/8/9/10 players really is a farce...if it ever was in doubt that the $$ grab is in play, sending such low #'s to a Fall tournament is the killer

Terrible day for TG in NJ. I didn't know they had two whites teams.

Club 3-13-2 so far in NJ with three games left to play today OUCH, and NO Maryland teams are even at the tournament
Can TG even compete with B level clubs anymore? That sucking sound that you hear is people heading for the exits

Elevate 2018 Red had 7 girls this weekend and played 7v7 and the 2017 Red team (2017/18) combined team had 9 girls this weekend. I know one club was really mad that they couldn't play their full team and girls had to sit since Elevate couldn't field a full team. Its not only not fair to the Elevate girls but it is also not fair to the teams that they play against. These are recruiting tournaments and the kids want playing time. When you show up with 7 kids, it impacts everyone involved.

Actially 5-12-2 right now but just as pathetic. 2018s yesterday wouldn't have beaten Team 91 or Togz with the way they played.

Actially 5-12-2 right now but just as pathetic. 2018s yesterday wouldn't have beaten Team 91 or Togz with the way they played.

umm...the commits are not playing...these are a mix of girls that want to play fall tournaments.

That's ridiculous and totally on the parents. They should have said, no thank you. I'll spend that money somewhere else instead of the gas, tolls, food and hotels. Just for a club to think that was okay to do is beyond comprehension.

I think you are blaming the wrong people here. Elevate is the one "portraying" to the parents that they have a full 2nd team in the 2018 age group. The parents have yet to see a roster. Elevate has al of the 2018s (red and blue teams) practice together that way nobody knows who is on what team. The red team probably has 10 girls, at best, and no goalie. Both teams are scheduled to go to Florida, there is no way they can field a 2nd 2018 team in that tournament. I think if they can make it through the fall, they will try desperately to pick up some more girls for the summer and hopefully get a full 2nd 2018 team. The same situation exists with their 2nd 2017 team. Of course the club this its ok, after all, its all about the kid$$$$$$$$$$!

umm...the commits are not playing...these are a mix of girls that want to play fall tournaments.