BOTC - US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums NORTHEAST LACROSSE BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) Girls 2024-10th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022

How would one know? Invite by email?

Anyone who wants to pay to play.

Anyone who wants to pay to play.

Sofia Conti, YJ Weiner
Emily Haugen, YJ Ramos
Kayleigh Corr, Jesters Black
Kate Hearns, Jesters Black
Tess Calabria, YJ Weiner
Riley Zusi, Legacy

These are all very strong local players and deserve all the recognition

How do you know who “made it”? Is there a list? Isn't it just a sign up thing?

Money grab for sure!

How do you know who “made it”? Is there a list? Isn't it just a sign up thing?

Take it or leave it…. From someone who has been through it multiple times.

1 - Do not rely on Club (use the club as a resource but do not rely on them) reach out to anyone you know who might have a relationship with a coach at a school that your daughter is interested in (club director, club coach, Hs coach, current/former player at the school etc…)

2 - Identify and list a number of schools that your daughter would like to attend (and play lacrosse).
I would recommend going on the NCAA Lacrosse website, go to rankings, select RPI (you will see all of the schools that have Varsity Lacrosse. You can do it for DI, II and III. I would start with a large number.

2 - Develop a plan and help your daughter “market” herself to the schools. Email each coach (head coach as well as assistant coaches at each school) introducing herself and expressing her interest in the school and the program. Be persistent without being obnoxious / annoying. Update the coaches from time to time making them aware of what events she will be at, new film available, etc…

3 - make sure that your daughter understands that coaches look at things other than scoring a goal.
- always hustle off the field, never react negatively to a teammate I.e. if she gives a perfect pass to her teammate and she drops it do not react in a negative way. If she is a middlie be sure to hustle back ( sprint) to get on defense (it’s okay to trail the play when going on offense, it’s not okay to jog back to play defense). If she plays attack redefend with as much if not more effort than when going to the goal. If she is a defender slide with conviction, talk/communicate and never show dejection if she gets beat 1v1 . Teach her that it is the next play that matters just like a goalie. Every goalie let’s in shots and every defensive player gets beat.

Stay positive when her team is losing, fight harder when things are not going well, encourage her teammates when they make a bad play, pat them on the back, pick them up. Fight like heck for ground balls.

Make the right play I.e. if the right thing to do is move the ball then move the ball… if the right thing to do is clear space then clear space, if the right thing to do is go to goal then go to goal.

Unless your daughter is one of the best 50 - 100 players in the country the little things are what will make the difference. (Actually, in many cases it is all of those little things that make the difference for many of those top 50 caliber girls).

In recent years I can think of two # 1 ranked recruits that were not big goal scorers , they were all around solid midfielders who did a lot of their work between the 30’s, played good defense and were very smart players who hustled all over the field. Many parents (scratched their heads) But every coach in the country wanted them.

4 - have some reach schools but remember the recruiting process will generally tell your daughter where she stands. Help her to stay positive as other players commit or her dream school does not express interest. Be willing to engage with any school / coach that expresses interest. If a school/coach expresses interest and your daughter is not interested look to schools with the same caliber of lacrosse program that she might be interested in and reach out. Do not turn your nose up, do not burn bridges, coaches, especially assistant coaches move around. Engage with any and all coaches who express interest.

5 - do not base everything around lacrosse!!!!
For example , if your daughter wants UNC, UVA, MD, PSU, Florida, Michigan but she is not at that level look at similar schools that have strong Club Programs . It’s about education, experience and
best fit.

6 - the process is very fluid, every time a player commits there are a bunch of coaches out there adjusting their lists and priorities. As players are taken off the board other players move up on coaches lists.

7 - remember the process is different for everyone, help her to stay positive and to keep an open mind.
This crazy process is a life lesson, learn and grow throughout journey and try to enjoy the ride.

Yes, I know it was long but hopefully it is helpful to some.

Best of luck

Rumor is the next two D1 women teams will be NJIT and Miami (OH). Potential start of 2024 for both

Check out Newsday's College Commitment page ..... you can compare what type of college opportunities lacrosse provides compared to other sports like soccer, basketball, track and field / CC, softball, field hockey etc... Not only are there way more girls going to play lacrosse in college (from Long Island) there is no comparison in the caliber of schools.

Definitely one of the assistants….it was time!

---- "Kind of unfair to take a spot away from a true 24" ----

---- "It’s a privilege reserved for the wealthy." ----

If you think like that, please do not instill that type of attitude in your children.

Does anyone know what happened down at Wofford with the head coach?

Does anyone know if there are rules regarding reclassification?
For instance can you start Kindergarten late,
Reclassify freshman year of HS and then go to prep school 2 years after HS and start College at 22 or 23?
Think about that advantage for the 23 year old freshman.

91 coach doesn’t even show up to practices so her daughter making a team is the least of the concerns.

If you are wealthy and can afford to re-class at 50-70k per year in private school (can’t reclassify in public unless failing grades), that re-class advantage could be a real scenario! I think you are looking at 1 and 2 year reclass now. It is an advantage and you prob. have to be wealthy to do it. That’s why it’s becoming even more of an
elitist sport with more people choosing to do this re-classing to get advantages. Crazy

If you are wealthy and can afford to re-class at 50-70k per year in private school (can’t reclassify in public unless failing grades), that re-class advantage could be a real scenario! I think you are looking at 1 and 2 year reclass now. It is an advantage and you prob. have to be wealthy to do it. That’s why it’s becoming even more of an
elitist sport with more people choosing to do this re-classing to get advantages. Crazy

What is Crazy?

Is there something wrong with making choices that are advantages to your own success?

Nah, I agree that’s it’s kind of crazy.
There should be age restrictions early in the youth game and should be an age restriction for starting freshman year. Unless of course you are military. Probably unlikely because there is too much $$ involved with the prep schools. A whole industry of the rich and famous would be negatively impacted if they leveled the playing field.

Agree that youth sports should be age based. But an age based restriction for starting college is a bit much.

The resentment and animosity directed at people of means is really sad. The whining and making excuses why their child is not being offered a spot at one of the top lacrosse programs or top academic institutions or in some cases both is also sad.

For some, it’s always something i.e. politics, pay to play, friends & family, connections, club affiliation, coach favorites, parent coaches etc… now it’s wealthy people reclassing or choosing to do a PG year that is making it unfair.

Most parents I know are hoping that lacrosse will help their kids get into a school that they would not get into based on grades alone and or to possibly get some financial help. All of the nonsense about fairness, politics and whatever other excuses will go out the window on September 1.

The recruiting process lets all of the players and parents know just where they stand. But even during the recruiting process there will be complaints of politics and the rest of the BS.

For sports that are based on grade and not age you will see people trying to gain an advantage early in the youth process. I always think it’s dangerous and unfair that people hold kids back.
As far as kids doing an extra year post HS, their are many sports that do the same thing. Lacrosse seems like the worst. That is why the boys side was so enamored with the World Series of Lacrosse because they put restrictions on age.

We have a club parent on the NJIT Board. Apparently Miami is no really a secret, it has been in their athletic strategic plan for a while and was delayed due to Covid.

The reality is that there are a lot of delusional parents who believe that their child is entitled to make all the teams and lists/rankings. They are incapable of believing that other athletes are better than their daughter, they simply can not see it or admit it. Now we are hearing complaints about holdbacks, reclassing and PGs. In our town youth program they would not allow players to "Play Up" with the grade above even if the kid was capable of doing so. The parents complained that it wasn't fair. They even tried to restrict players from playing for club teams (more so on the boy's side) because it wasn't fair that some players could make the top teams and many other players could not. It is all BS and in the end the college coaches will offer spots to the players that they believe will help strengthen their program. When kids start committing there will be parents complaining about all of the same nonsense.... "it's not fair", "her father has connections", "our club director didn't help" etc... All BS.

I don’t disagree with most of what you said.
Playing up is one thing or having certain kids who are stronger making A over B teams etc
-but adjusting your status so that you will be older/stronger for sports is manipulating the system and twisted.
And not in the same category of any of the other things you said.

Does anyone know if there are rules regarding reclassification?
For instance can you start Kindergarten late,
Reclassify freshman year of HS and then go to prep school 2 years after HS and start College at 22 or 23?
Think about that advantage for the 23 year old freshman.

The reclassify early in youth and then HS is disgusting in my opinion. What happens after HS and prep schools might be questionable in some instances but maybe not the one that is being currently talked about.
Stanford is a top school athletically that has extremely high academic standards. If my daughter was recruited by them and told she needed to go to prep school to get her grades up,,, well I would be a fool not to do everything humanly possible to make it happen.
Hopefully this isn’t going to be a trend so that people with modest means don’t have the pressure to keep up.
Remember we are talking about education and a game.

Does anyone know if there are rules regarding reclassification?
For instance can you start Kindergarten late,
Reclassify freshman year of HS and then go to prep school 2 years after HS and start College at 22 or 23?
Think about that advantage for the 23 year old freshman.

Is this the same coach that was at YJ

You can reclass just about any time. A 2023 just reclassed last week to take a spot at Stanford as a 24.

You can reclass just about any time. A 2023 just reclassed last week to take a spot at Stanford as a 24.

what does PG stand for?

what does PG stand for?