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@baldbear, i appreciate your attempts to keep things from getting out of control regarding attacks on student athletes, but a few days ago some one posted on seven (7) different threads that the director of the Yellow Jackets Lacrosse club looks transgender, I have no problem criticizing her actions and business practices as there is plenty to criticize, but the person is a teacher, coach, wife and mother.. what was said ( and not removed by the moderators) was just plain wrong and unnecessarily hurtful..
Im not CR, but I do have a kid who plays for her program, and honestly she aint a bad person when you speak with her..

How funny was the US lacrosse poll best women's player for 2019?

This is why US lacrosse is a laughingstock. Let the high school player play a minute in college lacrosse before we crown her.

How funny was the US lacrosse poll best women's player for 2019?

This is why US lacrosse is a laughingstock. Let the high school player play a minute in college lacrosse before we crown her.

What’s even more ridiculous is they are putting her over all other ncaa current players and a tewaaraton award finalist included in that group. They are really putting a bullseye on that kid with both her future teammates and her competition. Very good player and will benefit from heading to UNC where she will not be opposing teams main concern ( unless of course you believe lax magazine )

I detest to admit it but, Maryland is the favorite until they lose.. that's the bottom line. BC should have won last year.. had all the pieces.. they couldnt get it done..

BC’s best shot was probably the year Kent red shirted, had she played they probably could have beaten JMU. Credit to JMU, they were built to win one year, all the seniors were peaking and they got it done. BC had probably two years where they could have gotten it done, but came up slightly short. May be awhile before either get another shot.

Lacrosse Magazine Preseason Top 20 ................... Inside Lacrosse Preseason Top 20

1 North Carolina .................................. 1 North Carolina
2 Syracuse................................... 2 Maryland
3 Maryland .................................. 3 Syracuse
4 Northwestern................................... 4 Northwestern
5 Boston College................................... 5 Boston College
6 Princeton .................................. 6 Princeton
7 Virginia.................................. 7 Notre Dame
8 Michigan.................................. 8 Virginia
9 Penn.................................. 9 Denver
10 USC................................. 10 Michigan
11 Notre Dame..................................... 11 Loyola
12 Stony Brook.................................... 12 Stony Brook
13 Denver................................ 13 Florida
14 James Madison............................... 14 James Madison
15 Loyola................................ 15 Penn
16 Navy................................ 16 Navy
17 Florida............................... 17 USC
18 Colorado.......................... 18 Duke
19 Georgetown............................... 19 Georgetown
20 High Point............................... 20 Virginia Tech

Pretty similar.... 1 - 6 identical, 7 - 15 different order but all the same teams with the exception of USC and florida (IL has Florida outside the Top 15, Lax Mag has USC outside the Top 15 but both publications have them in the top 20)

What team not listed will finish in the Top 20 maybe Top 15? Stanford? Dartmouth? Towson?, Hofstra?, Umass?, Richmond?, Hopkins?

Give me UNC and Maryland vs the field every year. Once you get outside the top 15 there isn't much there

Why is that? Is it coaching? is t that there is not enough talent to go around? is it lack of scholarship dollars? is it lack of admissions support?

Why is it that the same schools always seem to be in the Top 15?

What programs are on the rise?

I detest to admit it but, Maryland is the favorite until they lose.. that's the bottom line. BC should have won last year.. had all the pieces.. they couldnt get it done..

How has ND “underperformed”? They had an amazing season.

I believe the post said "the (ND) Coach has underperformed". Another post said "on paper Notre Dame is as good as anyone."

Notre Dame finished 2019 ranked 9th. The Irish had an excellent year.

There is a contingent of people who have believed for years that ND has under performed.

Notre Dame is certainly one of the Top 15 or so programs in the country. The Irish have finished the season ranked in the Top 20 in 8 of the past 10 years with 3 Top 10 finishes (the other two years they were ranked 25th and others receiving votes for the top 20). The knock is that they do not make the final four or win a national championship.

Notre Dame is an excellent program that consistently outperforms more than 100 other Division 1 Women's lacrosse Programs.

ND Should have won 2-3 Natty Championships over the last 10 years. Same for FL when Gilroy was there. Coaches couldn't coach up the kids when they needed it.

I'm not a fan of the LI/YJ taking liberties type of game, but Spallina coaches up weaker kids every year. He's tough to root for and for that he always gets a tough ncaa draw but he can coach.

Coaching matters in the tournament

ND Should have won 2-3 Natty Championships over the last 10 years. Same for FL when Gilroy was there. Coaches couldn't coach up the kids when they needed it.

I'm not a fan of the LI/YJ taking liberties type of game, but Spallina coaches up weaker kids every year. He's tough to root for and for that he always gets a tough ncaa draw but he can coach.

Coaching matters in the tournament

I am not the original poster however how do you think either Notre Dame or Florida would have done if you kept either roster exactly the same but changed the Head Coach ? I am not a Stony Brook fan but that man can coach. I believe Florida or ND would definitely have had a few more wins and a better draw come playoff seating with Spallina at the helm.

"a few more wins" is a big difference than 6 National Championships.

Florida’s best shot was with its incredible inaugural freshman class. When they were juniors/seniors was their chance to get one. Followed by the Gilroy era, still had some kick to them but less of a shot to take a championship. They have not been a serious threat since and creeping in the wrong direction ever since. ND has never been in the conversation to take one, at least from their play and results. They have always sparked “on paper” speculations, but have never been a threat to any top team.

I would say that these highly ranked players were not overlooked by other programs but they chose to go to Notre dame instead of these other programs. Believe me I’m sure a lot of these top players had many choices as to where to play and go for college.

ND has been a threat to every top team but less of a threat to be able to put it together for 3-4 hard games in a row which they need to do to win a ACC or NCAA title . They have beaten some top teams over the years and on paper always look very good but I think it’s a coaching and recruiting issue . It think recruiting wise they have gotten a lot of very highly ranked and regarded players who many other programs have considered over rated and have not developed many players who maybe were not as highly regarded by many into top NCAA players.

Gibberish.