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She appealed to the NCAA and it was granted . Would be interesting to know why she left .

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“Ok, basic math lesson, if all the top teams bring in 8-12 kids and all of them are on the UA team of generally 44 players and only 22 are the difference makers, how in the heck does that work? 2-3 top teams take every single one of the top 22 and none go elsewhere? At least present something that is intelligible.”

Not the guy who posted it but your reading comprehension is painful or just a desperate attempt to prove your little super stud will have the same accolades in college . I can guarantee you that your princess has had less accolades than mine but you people are ridiculous as I have seen many highly touted players never become that player they were expected to be . You are basing successful college careers on essentially these players senior years , I would argue 1 successful year of starting for their team does not equal a successful career for these top 50 players in the country coming out of high school . If you don’t think that the top teams have multiple UA AA riding the bench each season you are clueless .

Does anyone know if this is accurate and true? If true, I would guess the reason is that they think the coach is a crackpot.

Here are the reasons:
1-Not going to start
2-Doesn't like the campus
3-Doesn't get along with coach/teammates

That's about the extent of it.

It happens at all the Ivy's, if you're not playing after two years it's time to move on, a lot of kids will opt for study abroad and many other options available to them rather than be a practice dummy, there's no scholarship money to lose, so its a choice that is easily made

She was just named to the US Training Roster of 27 players for the US Team. For their Fall competition. Yeah, has't done much.

The snake just can't get over it. Tough being you.

1. she was by far the best offensive player and already started two years
2. see above
3. Maybe

Talk about not being informed. She was the leading scorer the last 2 years and would have broken the
career scoring record at Duke. I'm told girls at Duke and BC really like her. She wants to play at a more competitive program, where she can showcase her talents better.

I also think she's overrated. Lots of hustle, too many yellows. I'm not the guy under the rock, either, FYI, just another observer.

Talk about being blinded by stats , was not their best offensive player and was clearly out played by OJ in the big games. Yes she put up big numbers on the backs of lesser teams and celebrated each one like she just won a national championship. By the way she was claiming some form of trauma to the NCAA as in mental due to coaches, players or both so your claim of wanting to go to a more competitive team this year is ridiculous. Also what is with the Duke stat padding , look at their shots taken vs goals and tell me those shooting percentages are accurate .

Pretty fair point...she had 47pts against presb,ecu,vcu,w&m and campbell...1 goal against bc and unc and 1 asst against syracuse...Does she really want to play at a more competitive program? careful what you wish for.

Pretty fair point...she had 47pts against presb,ecu,vcu,w&m and campbell...1 goal against bc and unc and 1 asst against syracuse...Does she really want to play at a more competitive program? careful what you wish for.

Really? "It happens at all the Ivy's?" Last years Ivy rosters:

2019

Dartmouth: 9 Seniors.
Cornell: 7 Seniors.
Princeton: 7 Seniors
Coumbia: 7 Seniors.
Brown: 5 Seniors.
Penn: 4 Seniors
Yale: 3 Seniors.

I would imagine most Ivy's do not bring in more than 8 - 9 players per year. Some will no doubt be forced out due to injury and some go in knowing they are never see the field. Although all of the players going Ivy have excellent grades and test scores 1 or 2 per class will have "supe high" academics these kids and are not brought in for their athletic prowess.

95% of the seniors quitting is not normal and it does not happen all of the time at the Ivy's. More fake news.

Here are the reasons:
1-Not going to start
2-Doesn't like the campus
3-Doesn't get along with coach/teammates

That's about the extent of it.

It would appear that most have 10-12 freshman on the roster the past few years

No, it would not appear that most would have 10 - 12 Freshmen on the roster the past few years.

2019 Freshmen on Ivy Rosters:

9 - Princeton
11 - Penn
9 - Dartmouth
8 - Cornell
11 - Brown
7 - Columbia
7 - Harvard
11 - Yale

Below is Freshmen Class 2016 and Senior Class 2019:

Princeton: ...... 7 as freshmen - 7 as seniors
Penn: ............. 6 as freshmen - 4 as seniors
Dartmouth: .. 10 as freshmen - 8 as seniors
Cornell: .......... 8 as freshmen - 7 as seniors
Brown: ........... 8 as freshmen - 5 as seniors
Columbia: ...... 8 as freshmen - 7 as seniors
Harvard: ........ 8 as freshmen - 6 as seniors
Yale: .............. 6 as freshmen - 3 as seniors

Most players continue to play, they do not quit. Some stop playing due to injury and each year some stop for their own reasons but the majority continue to play. Also, keep in mind that in some situations players are brought in to help with the Academic Index . I would guess those players would be more likely to stop playing if they were not brought in for their lacrosse and or athletic ability.

Can someone actually show where there are so many saying that most stop playing . You sound like a bunch of nut jobs arguing against people who don’t exist .

Can someone actually show where there are so many saying that most stop playing . You sound like a bunch of nut jobs arguing against people who don’t exist .

These threads re-start every year. I have been reading for over 7 years now and two things have been stated on here over and over throughout the years: Girls quit in college and HS "stars" ride the bench more often than not in college.

Do you HEAR yourselves??? It's about the education and the place your daughter feels MOST comfortable in. Most importantly your daughter's HAPPINESS!!! I don't care if it's the most prestigious school, or the best lacrosse program. At the end of the day it's not about the lacrosse. It's about her happiness, how she develops as a person, relationships etc. It's a game....

Well said.

Yes she chose the place she felt most comfortable. How is it wrong that it also happens to be a high level of lacrosse and a great academic school? She can be happy, develop as a person and relationships there as well. She somehow would have a better chance of doing that at a lower academic school with a lesser lacrosse program?

Just an FYI, 95% of all botc posters never played a sport in college. 80% never played lacrosse.

Very well said.

Hear are "arguably" the Top 20 programs.

Maryland
North Carolina
Northwestern
Syracuse
Florida
Virginia
Princeton
Penn
Boston College
Stony Brook
Penn State
Notre Dame
Loyola
Duke
Umass
Georgetown
USC
Stanford
Colorado
Denver

Throw in.... JMU, Navy, Colorado, Denver, Hopkins, Dartmouth and Umass.

Michigan had a great year maybe they will become a consistent Top 20 Program.

Vanderbilt is a great school with a solid program.

Richmond looks to be on the rise as well and is an excellent school

There are large Public Universities with excellent academics, Ivy League Schools, smaller schools with excellent academic, Top 10 - 15 Big Name Universities, New England Schools, Mid Western Schools, Mid-Atlantic schools, Southern Schools, Western / Mountain Schools, West Coast Schools, City schools, etc...

If none of those schools work go look at Towson, Hofstra, Monmouth, UConn, Bucknell, Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Brown, Cornell, Rutgers, Ohio State, Virginia Tech, Louisville, Boston University, Fairfield, Marist, Jacksonville, Elon, High Point, Oregon, Arizona State, San Diego State, Cal "Berkeley", Lehigh, LIU, Villanova etc...

Army West Point is on the rise and for the right person is an excellent opportunity.

Exceptional players can most likely find a great fit at a top 10 - 20 Program. Good players will most likely be able to find a fit at one of the other programs listed. So many solid programs and schools...., most players should be able to find a good fit.

Sorry if I left a school out... Just rattling off. There are so many opportunities for so many young women.

Here we go again, An anonymous person just making statements. Nothing to back it up, no facts, no basis just throw it out there...

Just Like so many other myths.... more fake news.

You can tell they never played a sport in college by their clueless posts on here.

You can tell they never played a sport in college by their clueless posts on here.

I agree with that. Don't know about your percentages.... It doesn't matter, let the know nothings continue with their nonsense and be thankful that our daughters have an opportunity to play this sport in a "Hot Bed" area. More opportunity in this sport than any other sport. If your daughter is a good athlete just look look at the perennial Top 10 - 20 programs / schools that offer opportunities to the top players. It really is crazy. Average athletes can also go to great schools with the help of this sport. Take a look at soccer, basketball, track, softball etc... How many girls from Long Island go to top schools or programs each year? Long Island Girls lacrosse players go to all of the top college programs and many of the top programs are also top universities. Be thankful.

Let the stunands continue to spew their nonsense... Call them out on it and then laugh when your daughter kicks their butt on the field as well as in the classroom.

Pretty long winded answer to “you never played the sport or any other sport in college”.......sport

@baldbear, i appreciate your attempts to keep things from getting out of control regarding attacks on student athletes, but a few days ago some one posted on seven (7) different threads that the director of the Yellow Jackets Lacrosse club looks transgender, I have no problem criticizing her actions and business practices as there is plenty to criticize, but the person is a teacher, coach, wife and mother.. what was said ( and not removed by the moderators) was just plain wrong and unnecessarily hurtful..
Im not CR, but I do have a kid who plays for her program, and honestly she aint a bad person when you speak with her..