BOTC - US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums MID-ATLANTIC LACROSSE MARYLAND FORUM Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019

Just love the get over it,,,its High School now. Time to move on with the holdback game. Three ways to be the best..Be First..Be smarter..Cheat ..I would say holdbacks get two out of three before the game starts! little joke from Margin Call

It is still an advantage for many, of course not all.. By the time they get to 11 or 12 majority of advantage is over. But there is still an slight advantage for multitude of reasons..,,Ever wonder why there is a PG year for many top players?? Of course its all within the rules and you go against kids 4 years older your first year in HS..well 3 years older if you are a holdback.

Lacrosse has been become the poster child with what is wrong in YOUTH sports. More so then other youth sports. Several have some warts, but top youth lacrosse is over the top with older for their grade children.

Maryland Private High Schools are the poster childs for what is wrong with lacrosse no matter how you spin it.GReat Lacrosse tainted by everyone wondering who is a holdback . If holdbacks were a rarity or even a little above average compared to other sports no one would care. It is a epidemic that is out of control. Just seems wrong ..Common sense. But it is within the rules and holdbacks will be growing in numbers every year,

No one is wondering who the holdbacks are. It is common knowledge who they are. The kids on their own teams talk to other kids. We’ve seen the 2021s become 2022s and the 2022s become 2023s. It just serves as a conversation asterisk when the kid makes a great play.

Says the kid who will be leading the charge at intramurals in college. Go check the rosters of kids actually playing in D1 and let me know how many are closer in age to 9/1 and older. I'll save you the trouble. It's well over 50%. Also, go check the test scores of kids who are older. Let me help you out. They are significantly higher than those who are younger. Older kids have an advantage. Go read up on the subject junior or go back to practicing your fortnite dances.

Says the kid who will be leading the charge at intramurals in college. Go check the rosters of kids actually playing in D1 and let me know how many are closer in age to 9/1 and older. I'll save you the trouble. It's well over 50%. Also, go check the test scores of kids who are older. Let me help you out. They are significantly higher than those who are younger. Older kids have an advantage. Go read up on the subject junior or go back to practicing your fortnite dances.

Guys like you don’t get nearly enough credit for recognizing when their kid just can’t compete with his peers. Most will blame the coach or the teammates, but kudos for recognizing that it was junior who wasn’t cutting it. Hold him back to play with the younger kids so he can experience a taste of success that otherwise would have eluded him. Bravo sir. Not enough dads of marginal players are as astute as you are. It must be that BL education.

Any 2022 players make varsity as a freshman this year?

Team 91 has two freshman make varsity at McD and one at St. Pauls. All three are not holdbacks which is very impressive.

serious question- for any parents that held their kids back in middle school, whether it was for academics, athletics, maturity, whatever- was it worth it? would you do it again

2 poles very good

Did all the Hawks kids make varsity?

No

This is why lacrosse families are so sad. Get a life out in the real world where lacrosse won't cut it. Read a book.

Not everyone makes varsity or chooses to stay up on varsity. If a freshman has the option to get 100% of the PT on a competitive JV team with good coaches versus sitting 100% of the time on stacked varsity, I would posit the JV option is a better one. Some programs have great JV coaching staffs and others use it as a source of secondary income for their teachers. Caveat Emptor.

serious question- for any parents that held their kids back in middle school, whether it was for academics, athletics, maturity, whatever- was it worth it? would you do it again

What is a guess player?

What is a guess player?

He is the player who shows up five minutes before the game. While you are waiting to watch your son "start" he is handed a jersey from the trunk of the coaches car. He then takes your son's position on the field. While he is scoring most of the teams goals, the rest of the parents "guess" what his name is.

I don’t disagree about JV playing time. But the decision is really the V coaches to make. If he wants your son up, that’s probably what’s best for him as the coaches know exactly what the pros and cons are.

I’m not sure who doesn’t choose to stay up?

JV this year easy... Next year playoffs MIAA Varsity... Following year MIAA Champions ..

The HC worries about the varsity team not your son's individual development. "Best for him" is pretty far down on the priority list. If the HC wants a great "scout team", he keeps him up. In the old days freshmen never made varsity unless they were playing. Otherwise you played on JV and got enough high school game experience to help you develop.

I have two words for you: Pat Spencer. 2 years of JV lacrosse. Don't think it hurt him too much! Best wishes to all!

Those two years are why Loyola lost to Towson.

Nice concept but you clearly do not know how special these Hawks and their coaches are.

Actually defender for Towson, who limited him to 1 goal, was on the fresh/soph team at LB in 9th

Love it. All hail the late bloomer.